Windows 8.2??

[mr moose]

Also why does everyone now hate shadows, why is everything 2d, I really dont like that, i liked aero and how it blends in which stuff which depth of field and what not.

Maybe too many people complained about it using up resources.  Either that or its the Ja Ja Binks effect, where people just whinge about a thing or product because someone else did and they don't want to be seen as an amateur or lacking in understanding. 

[Carter]

It had better be really good, cos 8.1 practically broke my laptop... They should have just released two versions of the os, one for tablets, with the new interface, and one for pcs for real people who just want a decant and familiar experience.

[GoodBytes]

It had better be really good, cos 8.1 practically broke my laptop... They should have just released two versions of the os, one for tablets, with the new interface, and one for pcs for real people who just want a decant and familiar experience.

 

AN OS can't break your hardware/laptop.

The 2 version is stupid. The Start Screen is more powerful than the Start Menu. Start Menu is something I don't want to see again.

[xkronusx]

I believe wendell wanted shadow copy to work again, or something along that lines.

 

Make it happen Microsoft.

[Carter]

AN OS can't break your hardware/laptop.

The 2 version is stupid. The Start Screen is more powerful than the Start Menu. Start Menu is something I don't want to see again.

I guess it's down to opinion but I think the majority of people using desktops preferred the start menu, which functioned fine with no obvious reason to change it.

And I am quite aware, as most others around here are, that an os cannot break my hardware, it wasn't meant to be taken that literally, I am having software conflicts since the 8.1 update that result in general instability in explorer - pretty annoying I hope 8.2 will fix this, I will hold on a little longer before going back to 8 (.0)

[TopWargamer]

Oh boy, let's Microsoft fixes everything that's wrong with Windows 8/8.1 in this update.

 

[GoodBytes]

I guess it's down to opinion but I think the majority of people using desktops preferred the start menu, which functioned fine with no obvious reason to change it.

And I am quite aware, as most others around here are, that an os cannot break my hardware, it wasn't meant to be taken that literally, I am having software conflicts since the 8.1 update that result in general instability in explorer - pretty annoying I hope 8.2 will fix this, I will hold on a little longer before going back to 8 (.0)

no, it's because the majority of people using a desktop aren't, willing to try something different, because they are scared of change.

[Carter]

no, it's because the majority of people using a desktop aren't, willing to try something different, because they are scared of change.

Fair point I see what you are saying... From a personal point of view, I have tried it and done like it.

[JaeDee884]

Windows 8.1 and beyond are free for anyone who bought Windows 8. This isn't Apple, Microsoft doesn't charge for service packs. 

Neither does Apple anymore

I'm a fan of the way microsoft is going even if it is macesque.

Yearly marginal updates instead of service packs, as long as they're free within the title OS then it's a good move. 

[ofr057]

I've got a new laptop and updated it to 8.1 and run start is back .... truthfully i am fine how it is

[LAwLz]

Woho I might actually upgrade if they do this.

[GoodBytes]

Idk what to say, I just hope they have the 8.1 start button as an option. I do miss having some of the other shortcuts on the start menu. I think windows 8 served a better purpose for me imo

What shortcuts you are talking about?

[GoodBytes]

Oh you mean this:

You can pin any folder you want. I put mine at the bottom left corner of the Start Screen for quick access.

[Giddyguy]

you know i want to get an opinion of windows 8 from a non enthusiast. i know two of my friends(who are girls) said "windows 8 is my love" but i want to get a perspective from a guy too. I know many gamers hate it, but what does the general public think?

[mgsstar]

This is pretty nice that they are constantly updating Windows 8. Can't wait to see how Windows 8.2 will look and perform compared to 8.1.

[Scheer]

you know i want to get an opinion of windows 8 from a non enthusiast. i know two of my friends(who are girls) said "windows 8 is my love" but i want to get a perspective from a guy too. I know many gamers hate it, but what does the general public think?

 

They all hate it too, which is a shame. I am literally the only person I know who likes Windows 8 (and I like it a lot).

 

Now in the case of someone who never uses computers (my grandfather and grandfather-in-law) they both understand it and previous Windows versions simply baffled them. Its much harder to break a bad habit than to create a good one.

[GoodBytes]

They all hate it too, which is a shame. I am literally the only person I know who likes Windows 8 (and I like it a lot).

 

Now in the case of someone who never uses computers (my grandfather and grandfather-in-law) they both understand it and previous Windows versions simply baffled them. Its much harder to break a bad habit than to create a good one.

Actually, that is not true. This is the Vista effect.

People saying they don't like it, or it's crap, because they were told so, by a computer enthusiast that they trust.

Vista was a great OS if you had the hardware: 3-4GB of RAM for Vista 64-bit, 256MB dedicated PCI-E GPU memory, Pixel shader 2.0 and DirectX 10 ready GPU, true dual core CPU 2.0GHz+ (no Pentium D crap), SATA 7200RPM HDD, with the SATA controller set to AHCI mode, and all internals components are new technologies as well (no legacy crap). And Vista was running very smoothly and nice. In other words: no 500$ laptop with Intel integrated graphics of the time, which could not even handle DVD playback perfectly smoothly on XP, which is what OEM put everywhere.

What is sad, is that the average consumer prefer Windows 8 and are more open to change than computer enthusiasts. Most of us, are acting like grumpy old gramp, and bitch and moan all day, while we are the ones that is supposed to be the most open to change, and always seeking for fresh ideas, whether good or bad.

[DarkEcho]

But.. I just got used to using 8.1... Now you're changing it back AGAIN oh man.

 

Microsoft, please grow a pair and just lose all your money standing by your guns instead of U-turning 

[GoodBytes]

But.. I just got used to using 8.1... Now you're changing it back AGAIN oh man.

 

Microsoft, please grow a pair and just lose all your money standing by your guns instead of U-turning 

Everything on that article is speculations by the author.

If ANYTHING, it will be a menu like if you do Win+Q on the desktop, but shows on the left.

[Scheer]

Actually, that is not true. This is the Vista effect.

People saying they don't like it, or it's crap, because they were told so by a computer enthusiast that they trust.

What is sad, is that the average consumer prefer Windows 8 and are more open to change than computer enthusiasts. Most of us, are acting like grumpy old gramp, and bitch and moan all day, while we are the ones that is supposed to be the most open to change, and always seeking for fresh ideas, whether good or bad.

 

I'm the computer enthusiast they all trust, and they still don't like it, too much change for them apparently.

[That Ging3r Kid]

Actually, that is not true. This is the Vista effect.

People saying they don't like it, or it's crap, because they were told so by a computer enthusiast that they trust.

What is sad, is that the average consumer prefer Windows 8 and are more open to change than computer enthusiasts. Most of us, are acting like grumpy old gramp, and bitch and moan all day, while we are the ones that is supposed to be the most open to change, and always seeking for fresh ideas, whether good or bad.

But Vista was crap...

And Windows 8 is made for touchscreens. Microsoft jumped the gun here and made a tablet OS without thinking about their PC users. I do believe that if there was an option between using Metro and a Start Menu, then it would have been a lot better.

[GoodBytes]

I'm the computer enthusiast they all trust, and they still don't like it, too much change for them apparently.

Did you give them a tour or just dump them in? When I give a tour to people I build computers, all, even my mother loves Windows 8, despite no touch screen.

All I do is show them the Start Screen, on how it's the Start Menu but evolved to full screen, and that how it's more powerful and you can pin anything they want in terms of folders and programs. And I help them get started with a layout, 'cause i have to admit the default layout isn't very good on a desktop/laptop environment.

[GoodBytes]

But Vista was crap...

Yea, true. Having a true Vista ready system provided a too fast experience for people. They had to install XP to slow things down.

Oh and the Task bar color changes... and the """"""""new"""""""" Start Menu, oh the horror.

Remember when OEMs was installing Windows 7 task bar replacements, because people where freaking out of control on the new task bar, and now everyone loves it and don't want to go back.

Same old story over and over again.

And Windows 8 is made for touchscreens. Microsoft jumped the gun here and made a tablet OS without thinking about their PC users. I do believe that if there was an option between using Metro and a Start Menu, then it would have been a lot better.

Desktop sales are super low. Most people are on laptops, and tablets.

You choose:

-> Big fat tower and cables everywhere for Facebook.

-> Nice sleek laptop you can move anywhere, with at most 3 cables (printer cable if you don't have a network or wireless one, mouse, and Ethernet). Why do you think the iMacs are popular? Few wires, and looks nice on any desk, no visible "beige box".

-> Tablet where you can be anywhere in the house and outside, for Facebook.

Also, tablets can play games. The other can't. WOW! Let me explain.

The average consumer, don't like the games we play. They are casual gamers. There is no place on the PC side to get the types of games they like. Installing Steam is too complicated.. then you need to look for dedicated GPU for some games... annoying. Tablets in the other hands have a store. 1 place you can get apps and games... their kind of games. No headaches on system specs, and such. It always runs nicely.

[Scheer]

Did you give them a tour or just dump them in? When I give a tour to people I build computers, all, even my mother loves Windows 8, despite no touch screen.

All I do is show them the Start Screen, on how it's the Start Menu but evolved to full screen, and that how it's more powerful and you can pin anything they want in terms of folders and programs. And I help them get started with a layout, 'cause i have to admit the default layout isn't very good on a desktop/laptop environment.

 

Pretty much a full tutorial, swapped default programs so nothing goes to Modern UI like photos/videos/etc, the complaints are starting to drop off, but I've had to put Windows 7 back on a few computers now.

[GoldenTree]

i switched to win8.1 few weeks ago. it was a rough start, but i got used to it in a few days. one thing that really grind my gears is that you cant restore files from windows 7 if you used windows backup and restore. they replaced that option completely, so restoring files was a pain. the games ive played on it seemed great. bf4 is smoother on win8.1 than win7.

 

Loved how you said "grind my gears"