Almost All Over M.S.R.P.

[crzyces]

So I am going through graphics cards on various sites, then PCPartspicker for an easier quicker comparison, and I am at a loss as to why cards are almost always over M.S.R.P. . Now it is not just that, the branding is also misleading. We will start with M.S.R.P. We can't have a shortage on all these models, as I see them in stores all the time. Now MSRP on an RX480 8 gb is $219 usd, the same as an rx 580.

 

Here are the prices for the least expensive 8gb models I could find. Also, notice the clock speeds and the adjective/s describing the card.

 

Asus Dual OC Radeon RX 480      8GB          1.12 GHz           $234.95

XFX Radeon RX 480 OC                8GB          1.12 GHz           $234.99

Gigabyte RX 480 G1 Gaming         8GB          1.12 GHz           $239.00

MSI ARMOR RX 580 ARMOR OC  8GB          1.26 GHz           $239.99

Gigabyte Gaming Version (GV)      8GB          1.12 GHz           $239.99

ASUS ROG STRIX Gaming           8GB           1.12 GHZ          $244.78

 

This continues up to $328.99 usd for non OC'd standard RX 480 cards. The most expensive RX 580 on PCPartsPicker I believe was $262.07

 

Oddly enough, if I go to the AMD website I find their Radeon 480 listed at $209.99! Great, I can buy directly from AMD for a reference card; for less money! No, it directs me to NewEgg where my total cost is $224.98. So what gives? This same card (This exact same Sapphire Gaming Nitro I was directed to was $174.95 in January 2017. What is causing this, as I stated, it is not lack of product. The misbranding is ridiculous as well (Oddly enough, the Sapphire Nitro was slightly overclocked to 1.21 GHZ).

 

Does anyone have a clue why this is happening? The supply is not too great for demand, so again "what gives"?

[themctipers]

msrp = what amd wants to sell it at (in a perfect world)

actual price = msrp + shipping, manufacturing, R&D, greed, currency conversions (if you're not in the US)

[minibois]

It's because the stores want to make money on the product too, so do the suppliers and this party and that party.. That drives up the prices.

Spoilers: stores barely make any profit on things like GPU's.

[The Sloth]

1 minute ago, Minibois said:

It's because the stores want to make money on the product too, so do the suppliers and this party and that party.. That drives up the prices.

Spoilers: stores barely make any profit on things like GPU's.

 

 

micro center magical prices, my 5820k costs less than a 6700k. 

[minibois]

4 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

micro center magical prices, my 5820k costs less than a 6700k. 

They are probably one of those stores that can buy in a big amount (which many other stores don't it seems) and they get a great bundle deal and don't try to get ridiculous profit margins

[Princess Luna]

4 minutes ago, themctipers said:

currency conversions

This one actually isn't that bad, what kills are importation taxes.

[crzyces]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

This one actually isn't that bad, what kills are importation taxes.

Now I just looked at an rx 580 oc'd too 1366 boost 1475 and that is at MSRP 229.99 at Newegg. I guess the 5 line is the way to go right now. This is just bugging. Me OC for Overclocked in the title but stock speeds (btw), the 580 doesn't say OC in the description.

 

AMD announced the prices would drop over a month ago, but they haven't, in most cases they have gone up, which means they are selling to the distributors cheaper, so one would think it would reflect in consumer pricing.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, crzyces said:

AMD announced the prices would drop over a month ago

AMD has no control over the prices, the Market controls the price

[crzyces]

9 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

micro center magical prices, my 5820k costs less than a 6700k. 

Shouldn't the 5820 cost less than a 6700k? the 6700 has a higher clock (4.0 compared to 3.3), over clocks just as well etc. I'm seeing the 6700k for $296 at Amazon, what are they listing the 5820 at? Amazon has it over $400.

[crzyces]

5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

AMD has no control over the prices, the Market controls the price

Exactly, hence leading to more confusion. The store shelves are stocked, the online stores are stocked, so if the supply is equal to or exceeds demand, the common law of supply and demand would dictate prices dropping, not going up.

[The Sloth]

2 minutes ago, crzyces said:

Shouldn't the 5820 cost less than a 6700k? the 6700 has a higher clock (4.0 compared to 3.3), over clocks just as well etc. I'm seeing the 6700k for $296 at Amazon, what are they listing the 5820 at? Amazon has it over $400.

 

 

that's not how CPUs works, clocks are one part of the equation. a 5820k has 6c/12t that is easily overclocked to 4.5 ghz while a 6700k can be clocked to 4.8 ghz has 4c/8t a mainstream cpu, in terms of raw performance a 5820k is better. 

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

that's now how CPUs works, clocks are one part of the equation. a 5820k has 6c/12t that is easily overclocked to 4.5 ghz while a 6700k can be clocked to 4.8 ghz has 4c/8t a mainstream cpu, in terms of raw performance a 5820k is better. 

For what is worth if you don't care about power efficiency the 5820k is better than the 6800k even, it OCs better and all.

[The Sloth]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

For what is worth if you don't care about power efficiency the 5820k is better than the 6800k even, it OCs better and all.

can't have everything, i love my setup. 

[Cyracus]

3 minutes ago, crzyces said:

Exactly, hence leading to more confusion. The store shelves are stocked, the online stores are stocked, so if the supply is equal to or exceeds demand, the common law of supply and demand would dictate prices dropping, not going up.

Things are worth what people will pay for them, manufacturers and stores are seeing product move so clearly the price is right

[crzyces]

Just now, nerdslayer1 said:

that's now how CPUs works, clocks are one part of the equation. a 5820k has 6c/12t that is easily overclocked to 4.5 ghz while a 6700k can be clocked to 4.8 ghz has 4c/8t a mainstream cpu, in terms of raw performance a 5820k is better. 

I realized that right after I typed it. OC'ing Xeons for fun/extra $ I should have known that (Yes I know it is not a Xeon, but essentially is very comparable to a Xeon E5-2620 or Xeon E5-1650).

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[JabroniBaloney]

28 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

micro center magical prices, my 5820k costs less than a 6700k. 

Now compare their prices on every other component. 

[crzyces]

Just now, JabroniBaloney said:

Now compare their prices on every other component. 

They have to have some kind of crazy deal with Intel no other consumer distributor has (Like a commercial Dell or HP commercial contract) as they can't lose that much money every day on that many chips.

[JabroniBaloney]

3 minutes ago, crzyces said:

They have to have some kind of crazy deal with Intel no other consumer distributor has (Like a commercial Dell or HP commercial contract) as they can't lose that much money every day on that many chips.

They may, but don't necessarily need to have a crazy deal. They make up any possible losses on everything else. 

Their CPU prices sure get customers in the door.

[crzyces]

4 minutes ago, JabroniBaloney said:

They may, but don't necessarily need to have a crazy deal. They make up any possible losses on everything else. 

Their CPU prices sure get customers in the door.

Like a gas station with low prices but more expensive cigarettes and alcohol. Even if it's just an extra $ per item, that adds up quick. I wish someone would make a deal like that with NVidea and Radeon Technologies (Though NVidea's prices do seem to have dropped recently).