Android Nugget Comes to Verizon Note 5 United States

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

And it will. The app will not update to a version that your device cannot update to. 

 

The guy is deliberately making Apple seem bad for making an app run on their latest version only when his device is capable of running iOS 10.3.1

But if I'm running iOS 9, then I shouldn't HAVE to update to iOS 10.3.1 to use the Apple Store. It should just work on iOS 9. If it does already work like that and this is just a case of 10.3 vs. 10.3.1 then it's not as bad (although it still shouldn't be the case).

 

 

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

And it will. The app will not update to a version that your device cannot update to. 

 

The guy is deliberately making Apple seem bad for making an app run on their latest version only when his device is capable of running iOS 10.3.1

It is bad... Because it did... It updates ON ITS OWN to a version that can no longer be used until you update your iOS.

 

This is literally tantamount to Microsoft being like yo... that thing you use... word... Yeah we only support it on Windows 10 now, so install that or never use it again.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

ON ITS OWN

Disable auto updates you fool!

 

 

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Disable auto updates you fool!

 

 

auto updates shouldnt update you to an unsupported version either.

[DrMacintosh]

5 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

But if I'm running iOS 9, then I shouldn't HAVE to update to iOS 10.3.1 to use the Apple Store. It should just work on iOS 9. If it does already work like that and this is just a case of 10.3 vs. 10.3.1 then it's not as bad (although it still shouldn't be the case).

 

 

If you are on iOS 9 the iOS 9 version of that app will continue working unless the application is like Facebook or THE APPLE STORE (aka web based) meaning it can update through its servers on the developers end and block access that way. 

 

If an application requires a newer firmware than the one you are on, you must update to be able to use it. The Application cannot update on an older firmware if the version it updates to requires a newer firmware that the device cannot support. 

[Curufinwe_wins]

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Disable auto updates you fool!

Yeah god forbid you want things kept up to date, and don't want "up-to date" to mean "break my shit".

 

 

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Yeah god forbid you want things kept up to date.

 

 

I check for application updates everyday and read the change logs. 

 

If you don't want to take the time to do that then don't whine when something doesnt go your way. 

 

You have nobody to blame but yourself because you can opt out of an update.  

[Curufinwe_wins]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

If you are on iOS 9 the iOS 9 version of that app will continue working unless the application is like Facebook or THE APPLE STORE (aka web based) meaning it can update through its servers on the developers end and block access that way. 

 

If an application requires a newer firmware than the one you are on, you must update to be able to use it. The Application cannot update on an older firmware if the version it updates to requires a newer firmware that the device cannot support. 

Like Facebook, and every single social media application out there... You know 31% (minimum) of general population mobile usage.

 

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I check for application updates everyday and read the change logs. 

 

If you don't want to take the time to do that then don't whine when something doesnt go your way. 

 

You have nobody to blame but yourself because you can opt out of an update.  

You shouldn't have to do that though.

 

If I'm running iOS 9, then my device shouldn't update any of my apps passed an iOS 9-compatible version.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

Like Facebook, and every single social media application out there... You know 31% (minimum) of general population mobile usage.

 

This is irrelevant 

[themctipers]

2 hours ago, Castdeath97 said:

They have been doing significantly better with iOS 10 and 9. Look at the iPhone 5 and iPad 4 on iOS 10. On the other hand Samsung have gives you no updates plus a bloated UI for you to enjoy!

ios 7 killed ip4/4s/ipad 2/3

ios 8 killed 4s/ipad air

ios 9 beat the shit out of 4s and air IMO, same with ip6+ (plus only, rip 1gb ram)

ios 10 is doing good 

 

source: i have a 4 on ios 7, an ipad air that has been through 7/8/9 and i know the 4s is a dead horse; apple discord tells me that a ip6+ on 9/10 is horrible.

[Curufinwe_wins]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I check for application updates everyday and read the change logs. 

 

If you don't want to take the time to do that then don't whine when something doesnt go your way. 

 

You have nobody to blame but yourself because you can opt out of an update.  

1. I don't use iOS anymore, so it doesn't directly affect me (only my general consumer relatives that are too tech illiterate to know better and force me to help fix their issues).

2. You better have the exact same opinion about Windows updates and people who got fucked by "opt-out" Windows "upgrades".

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

If I'm running iOS 9, then my device shouldn't update any of my apps passed an iOS 9-compatible version. End of story. 

Then be a responsible consumer and read the change logs.......end of story

[79wjd]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Then be a responsible consumer and read the change logs.......end of story

I shouldn't have to read the change logs every time I go to update one of the three hundred apps I have installed. That's ridiculous. I don't care if a game wants to see my bank accounts, let it, just don't expect me to filter through hundreds of apps to determine if it will work (especially if I'm not tech-savy enough to know if it's compatible).

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, Curufinwe_wins said:

2. You better have the exact same opinion about Windows updates and people who got fucked by "opt-out" Windows "upgrades".

I am adamantly against Windows 10s forced updates. I Use my MacBook more than my PC now because at least I have more control over this thing than my desktop. 

[Mira Yurizaki]

At the end of the day, Apple supports their devices a lot longer than a given Android phone manufacturer.

 

And I'd rather use a phone that is up to date than one with a glaring security hole that my manufacturer refuses to fix because reasons.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just now, M.Yurizaki said:

At the end of the day, Apple supports their devices a lot longer than a given Android phone manufacturer.

 

And I'd rather use a phone that is up to date than one with a glaring security hole that my manufacturer refuses to fix because reasons.

I'd rather have a device that works)

 

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

I am adamantly against Windows 10s forced updates. I Use my MacBook more than my PC now because at least I have more control over this thing than my desktop. 

Then you are being hilariously hypocritical about apple forced updates. You can opt out of Windows ones as well... if you buy the upgrades.

[themctipers]

Just now, M.Yurizaki said:

At the end of the day, Apple supports their devices a lot longer than a given Android phone manufacturer.

 

And I'd rather use a phone that is up to date than one with a glaring security hole that my manufacturer refuses to fix because reasons.

reasons why i still use ios

1. long lifespan

2. great performance overall (someone cry me a river over how android has 2x the cores at 2.1ghz)

3. great standby battery life (has been improved in android, but when i bought my iphone it was shit)

4. jailbreak ! (YT++ <3)

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Then you are being hilariously hypocritical about apple forced updates

There are absolutely 0 forced updates on any Apple product. 

 

If you refuse to update your device, Apple will not force your device to update. You will simply be losing out on the features of being up to date, like any other software. 

 

END OF STORY

[themctipers]

18 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

 

 

Note though, in most cases now Apple has implemented a "install most recent compatible version of the application", which didn't used to exist at all. BUT if you uninstall an app (like youtube) and you want it back, well you are fucked because it doesn't allow such things.

 

EX: This is what should happen...

 

holy shit you have a ip4 (4s maybe?)

jailbreak that shit and fix it  (assuming this is your main phone)

fix all your problems, even the app ones.

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

There are absolutely 0 forced updates on any Apple product. 

 

If you refuse to update your device Apple will not force your device to update. 

 

END OF STORY

every time you wake up your phone, it nags you to update

eventually, you'll accidentally click ok and it'll update while you're asleep

 

also it keeps downloading the update package, wasting 1gb+ on your phone, and if you delete it its back in a few hours.

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

There are absolutely 0 forced updates on any Apple product. 

 

If you refuse to update your device Apple will not force your device to update. 

 

END OF STORY

While true, if I update an app to the "latest version", then I expect it to work on the current OS that is installed on the product. If the latest version isn't compatible, then it shouldn't accept an update to that version (via a manual update or auto update).

 

2 minutes ago, themctipers said:

 

every time you wake up your phone, it nags you to update

eventually, you'll accidentally click ok and it'll update while you're asleep

 

also it keeps downloading the update package, wasting 1gb+ on your phone, and if you delete it its back in a few hours.

It asks you once a day to set a time or "remind you later" (as in, the next day), but it's honestly not that easy to accidentally update it. Although, I do wish they would get rid of that annoying message.

[Mira Yurizaki]

3 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

I'd rather have a device that works

The original iPhone technically works as a phone, text messaging, and email client. If that's all you need, then that's a perfectly fine device to use.

[DrMacintosh]

5 minutes ago, themctipers said:

it nags you to update

delete the update

 

5 minutes ago, themctipers said:

you'll accidentally click ok

hit the power button if you ever get the message and it will go away and will not show up for a long time. 

 

iOS updates only auto download when locked and connected to wifi.....so don't do that if you don't want them to download.  

 

You can install the Apple TV profile to prevent iOS updates if you don't want to do any of those.

 

 

Ive been playing this game too long to see people spew lies. 

[Zodiark1593]

7 hours ago, DildorTheDecent said:

I don't know about you but there might be difference between a third party rom and a official carrier update. 

I've had stock ROMS behave more unpredictably than a third party ROM.

[themctipers]

2 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

While true, if I update an app to the "latest version", then I expect it to work on the current OS that is installed on the product. If the latest version isn't compatible, then it shouldn't accept an update to that version (via a manual update or auto update).

 

It asks you once a day to "remind you later" (as in, the next day), but it's honestly not that easy to accidentally update it. Although, I do wish they would get rid of that annoying message.

ive done that once  9.1 -> 9.2.1 i believe (a week later, pangu dropped 9.1 jailbreak..)

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

delete the update

 

hit the power button if you ever get the message and it will go away. 

 

iOS updates only auto download when locked and connected to wifi

 

You can install the Apple TV profile to prevent iOS updates if you don't want to do that. 

 

 

Ive been playing this game too long to see people spew lies. 

what apple tv profile? i need it for future reference if i get stuck on stock ios

deleting the update helps for a few hours.. but still, it downloads updates all the time (its not like your phone is unlocked all the time and never connected to wifi, is it? mine is mostly left off for a few hours while connected to wifi)

the last time i've received that message (~7 months ago; 9.3.3 pangu) it kept nagging me to update to 9.3.4 every time i opened up my phone. probably an exaggeration in my brain, but it was annoying as hell.