What makes life worth living?

[nzpancakes]

OK, so, I always think about this and can never come to a concrete answer. Things people say that make life worth it is having a hobby, friends, family, job, and money. But let's say, for instance you have non of those things. Let's say you are 16, don't have any wants, have a father with cancer, brother with depression(who also doesn't want to interact with anybody but his computer and friends, also have a brother who's constantly mad and abusive, have an extended family who only cares about the eldest, have a mother who's never happy, have no friends at school (except for fake ones), are failing in school, doesn't care about any hobbies, and can't get a job. How would you get around these problems? Of course you could always just say to make more friends, but when there is actually no one is not stupid about things, it is impossible. And even if you do fix all these problems somehow, you are still forced to work until the rest of your life and then just die. So what makes life living after all theses

Things? And also, I don't want to make anyone else sad or hate me more by talking to them so I can't really do anything there.

[biker]

Sex

Family - Spouse, Children, In-Laws, Extended Family

Friends

Pets

Money

Job

Rock and Roll

Drugs

 

Its all about inner peace, serentiy, peace of mind.

[nzpancakes]

4 minutes ago, biker said:

Sex

Family - Spouse, Children, In-Laws, Extended Family

Friends

Pets

Money

Job

Rock and Roll

Drugs

 

Its all about inner peace, serentiy, peace of mind.

I don't care about sex, family is terrible, extended family only cares about brothers, no friends, hate pets, can't get money, can't get a job, music is annoying, life is terrible after drugs.

[Nfan]

22 minutes ago, nzpancakes said:

OK, so, I always think about this and can never come to a concrete answer. Things people say that make life worth it is having a hobby, friends, family, job, and money. But let's say, for instance you have non of those things. Let's say you are 16, don't have any wants, have a father with cancer, brother with depression(who also doesn't want to interact with anybody but his computer and friends, also have a brother who's constantly mad and abusive, have an extended family who only cares about the eldest, have a mother who's never happy, have no friends at school (except for fake ones), are failing in school, doesn't care about any hobbies, and can't get a job. How would you get around these problems? Of course you could always just say to make more friends, but when there is actually no one is not stupid about things, it is impossible. And even if you do fix all these problems somehow, you are still forced to work until the rest of your life and then just die. So what makes life living after all theses

Things?

Actually no one knows.

I think about living like about a story in a film or a book. You are writing a story for youself and people close to you. As any story it can be good or bad it can br about love or successful career, hoobby, meetings, journey, anything you want.

If you spend time on TV or something alike and do nothing, there is no story.

[nzpancakes]

1 minute ago, Nfan said:

Actually no one knows.

I think about living like about a story in a film or a book. You are writing a story for youself and people close to you. As any story it can be good or bad it can br about love or successful career, anything you want.

If you spend time on TV or something alike and do nothing, there is no story.

So basically life is just terrible wrapped in a teeny tiny happiness blanket

[biker]

You then need to go visit your doctor and get medical treatment.

[Godlygamer23]

Many things make life worth living, depending on how you view it....How about learning more about the cosmos, electronics, physics, etc?

[Nfan]

2 minutes ago, nzpancakes said:

So basically life is just terrible wrapped in a teeny tiny happiness blanket

I also think it's kinda terrible, but mostly because people around don't try to think or do anything. So I'm looking hard for things that I find interesting and play with them mostly alone.

[2FA]

Why isn't it worth living? You were given life, might as well make the most of it. Just do what makes yourself happy.

[nzpancakes]

4 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

Why isn't it worth living? You were given life, might as well make the most of it. Just do what makes yourself happy.

And if nothing makes you happy? And life is just a big ball of suck?

[nzpancakes]

10 minutes ago, biker said:

You then need to go visit your doctor and get medical treatment.

Already said I don't want to make anyone sad or pay more money for me because my brothers already doing that  and I just don't think it will help.

[PlayStation 2]

This sounds really specific. Is there anything deeper you need to talk about?

Remember, you're here for a reason. Even if you'll never directly find out why, you aren't here because you were a fuck-up. Life may be real rough on you right now, but if you hold it by the balls, you'll find your way into money, power, and respect.

[nzpancakes]

3 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

This sounds really specific. Is there anything deeper you need to talk about?

Remember, you're here for a reason. Even if you'll never directly find out why, you aren't here because you were a fuck-up. Life may be real rough on you right now, but if you hold it by the balls, you'll find your way into money, power, and respect.

Yes, but what if you lack the motivation to do that? Basically, you are sad and do care about trying to fix your sadness, but at the same time, you don't care about fixing it.

[PlayStation 2]

1 minute ago, nzpancakes said:

Yes, but what if you lack the motivation to do that? Basically, you are sad and do care about trying to fix your sadness, but at the same time, you don't care about fixing it.

As I said, life may be randomly critting you right now, but if you grab it by the balls, it feels refreshing.

Trust me, man. I've been there, except to a notably less extreme extent. Do it, if for nobody else, for some 16 year old kid in Huntsville, Alabama. 

[2FA]

14 minutes ago, nzpancakes said:

And if nothing makes you happy? And life is just a big ball of suck?

I'm sure there is something that you enjoy, you just have to find it.

 

12 minutes ago, nzpancakes said:

Already said I don't want to make anyone sad or pay more money for me because my brothers already doing that  and I just don't think it will help.

Ending your life will do both of those though. Saying that you'd do it to make them happy is absurd. Nobody wants to see their family members commit suicide. Depression is a very real medical condition, treat it like any other illness by seeking professional medical help.

[nzpancakes]

3 minutes ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

I'm sure there is something that you enjoy, you just have to find it.

 

Ending your life will do both of those though. Saying that you'd do it to make them happy is absurd. Nobody wants to see their family members commit suicide. Depression is a very real medical condition, treat it like any other illness by seeking professional medical help.

Never said I would end my life, the way I safeguard myself from doing that is the reason that I don't want to talk to anyone, because I don't want to make anyone else sad. Yes, and maybe there is something I will like down the road, but for the next 2-3 years life will be a beech

[nzpancakes]

6 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said:

As I said, life may be randomly critting you right now, but if you grab it by the balls, it feels refreshing.

Trust me, man. I've been there, except to a notably less extreme extent. Do it, if for nobody else, for some 16 year old kid in Huntsville, Alabama. 

The problem with this is, I think so much about things that anything inspirational like you just said just becomes obsolete to me, and I just kinda go along with whatever happens

[ARikozuM]

5 minutes ago, nzpancakes said:

Yes, but what if you lack the motivation to do that? Basically, you are sad and do care about trying to fix your sadness, but at the same time, you don't care about fixing it.

I've seen plenty of kids your age come into the hospital to volunteer. They come in down on their luck, trying to figure out what they'd like to do, and seeking what worth there is in life. I sit down with them and talk to them about their issues and try to find where they fit in best, mentally and physically, and given a few months they leave happier than before with some valuable skills in their repertoire. Use to take one 19 year-old to the farms, showing him what livestock and small-animal veterinarians do throughout the day. Most patients would assume I only care for dogs, cats, and the occasional chihuahua rodent, but sometimes showing them the large animals shows them that life isn't about taking what it gives, but giving it your all right back.

[BuckGup]

This is going to sound mega cheesy but when I got my Vive it was a really different experience. When you get lost in a virtual world and think its the real world you become super relaxed when you take the headset off and realize that was somewhere else. If you want to look at it scientifically our one goal in life is to successfully pass our genes on to our off spring and hopefully they do the same. If you think that is too morbid or boring look at life as a big game and things start to come to life.

[ARikozuM]

Why not try the MBTI test to see what kind of person you are and what might fit your personality best?

 

https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test

(Not a substitute for psychologist's consultation/interpretation)

[nzpancakes]

Basically, what I don't know what I'm trying to say, I guess I just want a better way to deal with everything without having to destroy others. I always try to think about things very logically and from every angle and try not to be ignorant also. Another question, was anyone fine in middle school but then got into high school and their overall happiness just went down?

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, nzpancakes said:

Basically, what I don't know what I'm trying to say, I guess I just want a better way to deal with everything without having to destroy others. I always try to think about things very logically and from every angle and try not to be ignorant also. Another question, was anyone fine in middle school but then got into high school and their overall happiness just went down?

Personally, I was bullied from about the 2nd grade private school to 11th grade of public high school. At some point, my introversion just said "kick his a##!" and after that first fight, everyone backed away and let me be alone as I'd like to be. I meant my wife to be shortly thereafter though, so I don't know if it was that or just the initial taking control.

[nzpancakes]

7 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Personally, I was bullied from about the 2nd grade private school to 11th grade of public high school. At some point, my introversion just said "kick his a##!" and after that first fight, everyone backed away and let me be alone as I'd like to be. I meant my wife to be shortly thereafter though, so I don't know if it was that or just the initial taking control.

Hmmm, doesn't help much in the way of my problems, but your story calmed me down a bit, so thanks I guess

[2FA]

18 minutes ago, nzpancakes said:

Never said I would end my life, the way I safeguard myself from doing that is the reason that I don't want to talk to anyone, because I don't want to make anyone else sad. Yes, and maybe there is something I will like down the road, but for the next 2-3 years life will be a beech

I just wanted to be sure. The way you were talking had me worried. My school was rather small, probably about 250 students from K-12, and I've seen 3 suicides throughout my education which to me seems high so I really hate to see people even remotely considering it. In my experience though, it's those that don't talk about their problems that have it the worst. At the very least find someone to talk to even if it isn't a professional. Just starting this thread is a step in the right direction.

[Guest Kloaked]

1 hour ago, nzpancakes said:

How would you get around these problems?

You don't, you either fix them or you move on from them. When you turn 18 (maybe even now - dunno how it works 100%), you are eligible for many grants and loans for college. Take it and get as much education as you can in your choice of study and get you a dank ass job like I did.

 

15 minutes ago, nzpancakes said:

Another question, was anyone fine in middle school but then got into high school and their overall happiness just went down?

Yes, and it sucked. I became super introverted when I got into high school because a ton of my "friends" ended up being total dicks to me, so I quit talking to people. There was an incident where I had to nearly fight my way out of a room of five dudes trying to be assholes to me while in auto shop class. After that, one of the girls in that class who were close with one of the guys came up to me and said "you're not one of those kids who would shoot up the school are you?" Like, you're fucking kidding me right?

 

High school sucked. It might suck for you. It might not. Even if it does, you have to keep your scope open to your life outside of high school. You were told you'd never see those people again right? I didn't believe that, but it's true. I don't even see the two close friends that I used to hang out with all the time anymore. Everyone, literally everyone moves on to something. Very rarely will you ever see the same people again.

 

So man the fuck up and get shit done =D