My Budget Build For Streaming

[VolviX]

Hello lads and gents. I'd like to thank you before even start the topic for giving advice or recommendations. I'm living in Turkey and I want to build my first PC. I'm going to use it mainly for gaming and streaming Rocket League. I have budget around $US 1200 (1 usd is 3.76 try at the moment. (hurts)). I've a little knowledge about building a PC. I made this build on PcPartPicker. Is it ok for streaming? I have every peripherals. I'll buy second monitor in the future (Can be 4K, depends on prices). The reason I'm upgrading is the laptop I have is getting not enough each days especially on stream.

The laptop I have; 

Spoiler

MSI GS60 6QE Ghost Pro Laptop

• NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M
• Intel i7-6700HQ
• DDR4 16GB RAM
• 128GB SSD

 

An additional question; Should I choose my Rams speed depends on my CPU or my motherboard? Thanks all!

[Guest]

Not a NEX PSU

Cheaper motherboard, budget build with an expensive mobo is wrong

 

 

 

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Not a NEX PSU

Cheaper motherboard, budget build with an expensive mobo is wrong

 

 

 

When he said budget I thought this would be a i7 6700 + h110m scenario... maybe it ain't that much of a "budget" after all hahah... I find a shame pairing a 6700k with 16gb of ram with a GTX 1060... at least the 1070 to keep the build balanced in my opinion.

[Guest]

Here. Take this. Much better.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($63.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($119.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Transcend 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($65.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Seagate Pipeline HD 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card  ($379.00 @ Jet)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1210.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-17 10:22 EST-0500

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

Drop the water cooler go to something like the 212 evo which is about 1/4 the price then get a better power supply corsair evga cooler master tend to be decent 

[VolviX]

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Not a NEX PSU

Cheaper motherboard, budget build with an expensive mobo is wrong

 

 

 

Why not NEX PSU? Is it bad brand or bad model?

 

 

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

When he said budget I thought this would be a i7 6700 + h110m scenario... maybe it ain't that much of a "budget" after all hahah... I find a shame pairing a 6700k with a GTX 1060... at least the 1070 to keep the build balanced in my opinion.

I wanted to build something that I can use many years :).

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, VolviX said:

Why not NEX PSU? Is it bad brand or bad model?

Bad model. EVGA are fine. There are better EBGA's out there like a GQ,GS,G2,G3

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

2 minutes ago, VolviX said:

Why not NEX PSU? Is it bad brand or bad model?

 

 

I wanted to build something that I can use many years :).

go for dexxters build its WAY better then your current one

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, VolviX said:

Why not NEX PSU? Is it bad brand or bad model?

I wanted to build something that I can use many years :).

I use an i7 6700 with h110m-c and in no way it'll make my PC last less than that build up, motherboards have no effect in performance, as long as they are decent enough they will do their job which is be a bridge between hardware, your build is unbalanced because it has a lot of computing processing power but not much graphical processing power I strongly advice you considering the @deXxterlab97 suggestion as it offers better value and balance.

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I use an i7 6700 with h110m-c and in no way it'll make my PC last less than that build up, motherboards have no effect in performance, as long as they are decent enough they will do their job which is be a bridge between hardware, your build is unbalanced because it has a lot of computing processing power but not much graphical processing power I strongly advice you considering the @deXxterlab97 suggestion as it offers better value and balance.

HIgher end mobos actually help with getting better over clocking since they tend to have better power systems. in your case it didn't matter since you had a non k version

[VolviX]

Yes I was going to say that. The reason why i choose that motherboard is after years using this build I could overclock it to get more performance. And thats why i used water cooling.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Alaradia said:

HIgher end mobos actually help with getting better over clocking since they tend to have better power systems. in your case it didn't matter since you had a non k version

The difference is still close to negligible, besides such far overclocking you speak of would not be advisable to an i7 6700k with that kind of cooling solution neither therefore all more reason why in this case scenario spending more for the motherboard is hard to justify; he'll need at best 2 sata ports, one pci-e x16 for the GPU and likely a PCI-e x1 or PCI for a wireless card.

 

Also, why not consider a z270+i7 7700k if overclocking is the main game here?

[Megah3rtz]

11 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Storage: Seagate Pipeline HD 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.50 @ Amazon)

why not 7200rpm 

[LawrenceBarnes2013]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 13 36.4 CFM CPU Cooler  ($25.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING 3X ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($122.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($91.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($67.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($57.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($389.99 @ B&H)
Case: *Xion XON-350_BK ATX Mid Tower Case  ($28.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: BitFenix Fury 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1194.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-17 10:34 EST-0500

 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

The difference is still close to negligible, besides such far overclocking you speak of would not be advisable to an i7 6700k with that kind of cooling solution neither therefore all more reason why in this case scenario spending more for the motherboard is hard to justify; he'll need at best 2 sata ports, one pci-e x16 for the GPU and likely a PCI-e x1 or PCI for a wireless card.

 

Also, why not consider a z270+i7 7700k if overclocking is the main game here?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($344.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler  ($63.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z270-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($134.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($83.60 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Pipeline HD 2TB 3.5" 5900RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.50 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card  ($389.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($78.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1287.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-17 10:34 EST-0500

[VolviX]

I saw a video on Youtube that i7 7700k is not that necessary for budget builders.

[Guest]

Just now, Megah3rtz said:

why not 7200rpm 

Because of the price. Cheaper than a 1TB WD Blue

[Guest]

1 minute ago, VolviX said:

I saw a video on Youtube that i7 7700k is not that necessary for budget builders.

1200 is not that budget small anymore lol

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

The difference is still close to negligible, besides such far overclocking you speak of would not be advisable to an i7 6700k with that kind of cooling solution neither therefore all more reason why in this case scenario spending more for the motherboard is hard to justify; he'll need at best 2 sata ports, one pci-e x16 for the GPU and likely a PCI-e x1 or PCI for a wireless card.

 

Also, why not consider a z270+i7 7700k if overclocking is the main game here?

as long as he has a good enough power supply and mother board he should be able to hit a 5ghz over clock on air maybe a bit lower depending on the average room temperature of where he lives and i'm guessing hes not going for 7700k because its more expensive and overclocking is about getting the most of the product you payed for not necessarily for using the newest stuff 

[Spork829]

Just a note, your laptop is totally 100% fine for streaming. You can swap your encoding to Nvidia NVENC in whatever software you're using, and then you won't have any sort of CPU performance hit anymore. Depending on your current streaming bitrate, you may want to up that a little bit. If you're using OBS I can offer more help. If you still want to build a desktop that's all fine and good, but I did want to point out that you can stream on that laptop just fine.

[EPPHO]

Your laptop is a beast and can stream whatever you want....

[Princess Luna]

9 minutes ago, Alaradia said:

as long as he has a good enough power supply and mother board he should be able to hit a 5ghz over clock on air maybe a bit lower depending on the average room temperature of where he lives and i'm guessing hes not going for 7700k because its more expensive and overclocking is about getting the most of the product you payed for not necessarily for using the newest stuff 

Not necessarily, reaching 5ghz with the 6700k is by no means an easy task especially with air cooling, I am not sure where are you getting your source to state this though I disagree.

Also, in this case the 7700k is hardly costier than the 6700k, @deXxterlab97 already showed a build with it pretty much retaining the original pricing, and since OP showed great interest in overclocking he will in fact getting the most for what he is paying for with the Kaby Lake, as in this case the newest stuff does overclock much better as Kaby as it is essentially a high polishing of the Skylake; the 5ghz mark becomes more realistic with it.

OP can check the following video for further information, and I advise you to check it too:
 

 

[VolviX]

4 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

Just a note, your laptop is totally 100% fine for streaming. You can swap your encoding to Nvidia NVENC in whatever software you're using, and then you won't have any sort of CPU performance hit anymore. Depending on your current streaming bitrate, you may want to up that a little bit. If you're using OBS I can offer more help. If you still want to build a desktop that's all fine and good, but I did want to point out that you can stream on that laptop just fine.

I'm getting drops on fps on stream to 60 fps. I'm more like a fps guy rather then a graphic guy. I feel myself more competitive. I'm using x264, 2000 bitrate. I'm playing with very low graphics so its more likely too much using cpu like you said.

[PeachyUwUSenpai]

10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Not necessarily, reaching 5ghz with the 6700k is by no means an easy task especially with air cooling, I am not sure where are you getting your source to state this though I disagree.

Also, in this case the 7700k is hardly costier than the 6700k, @deXxterlab97 already showed a build with it pretty much retaining the original pricing, and since OP showed great interest in overclocking he will in fact getting the most for what he is paying for with the Kaby Lake, as in this case the newest stuff does overclock much better as Kaby is essentially a high polishing of the Skylake; the 5ghz mark becomes more realistic with it.

OP and check the following video for further information, and I advise you to check it too:
 

 

my source is my overclocking of both a 6700k and a 3770k both using 212 evos my ambient temperature is lower then most (tends to be around 10C) which probably makes it easier for me and or i could just be lucky with the chips i got. the mother boards used were asus sabertooth z170 and sabertooth z77 both extremely stable overclock with pretty much no effort on getting 1ghz over clocks 4.5 for the 3770k and 5 on the 6700k. im planning on upgrading the cooler on the 3770k and trying for a 5ghz overclock on it soon 

[Spork829]

27 minutes ago, VolviX said:

I'm getting drops on fps on stream to 60 fps. I'm more like a fps guy rather then a graphic guy. I feel myself more competitive. I'm using x264, 2000 bitrate. I'm playing with very low graphics so its more likely too much using cpu like you said.

Yep, x264 is your problem. Try swapping that to NVENC.