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Why is it important to have high FPS?

ShiFtyDetoX
By ShiFtyDetoX
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im new to tech stuff, and was wondering why is it important for people to try and get like 2/3/4/5/6 hundred fps from their computer? while monitors pretty much max out at 165 hz. doesnt the monitor only perform up to what its capable of putting out, even though your computer is producing so much FPS? so why arn't people happy with producing a steady 165 FPS if their monitor goes up to 165hz. or am i completely lost

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e-peen. High numbers are always better, right? Similar to how people compare things by the amount of RAM they have, even if they're only using a tiny amount. 

 

In a lot of cases, getting a higher FPS than your monitor's refresh rate is actually a bad thing as it can cause tearing or having to turn on something like VSync than can cause an increase in latency. With adaptive refresh rate technologies like GSync and FreeSync, it's actually better to stay just below the monitor's refresh rate for the smoothest gameplay. 

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The more frames you generate the closer your screen will be to what is actually happening on the server. And theoretically the less input lag you should have.

 

If you have a sixty hertz monitor and you get one frame for every refresh your image will always be about 1/60th of a second behind. If you monitor made 3 frames in that time though it would take the most recent frame reducing that delay to 1/180th of a second.

 

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1 minute ago, Oshino Shinobu said:

e-peen. In a lot of cases, getting a higher FPS than your monitor's refresh rate is actually a bad thing as it can cause tearing or having to turn on something like VSync than can cause an increase in latency. With adaptive refresh rate technologies like GSync and FreeSync, it's actually better to stay just below the monitor's refresh rate for the smoothest gameplay. 

so why do people strive to get the most FPS out of their system?

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1 minute ago, EminentSun said:

The more frames you generate the closer your screen will be to what is actually happening on the server.

 

If you have a sixty hertz monitor and you get one frame for every refresh your image will always be about 1/60th of a second behind. If you monitor made 3 frames in that time though it would take the most recent frame reducing that delay to 1/180th of a second.

ok that makes more sense. thanks

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you need a vary good monitor to see the fps and to have them you need a good gpu and a good cpu. 

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2 minutes ago, EminentSun said:

The more frames you generate the closer your screen will be to what is actually happening on the server. And theoretically the less input lag you should have.

 

If you have a sixty hertz monitor and you get one frame for every refresh your image will always be about 1/60th of a second behind. If you monitor made 3 frames in that time though it would take the most recent frame reducing that delay to 1/180th of a second.

 

HAHAHAH what? No it has nothing to do with servers or latency. Usually people target 60FPS for 60hz monitors but with the rise of 144hz+ people want 144FPS+. It deals more with smoothness visually and being able to make out an enemy due to the increased output on the screen.

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3 minutes ago, nerdslayer1 said:

you need a vary good monitor to see the fps and to have them you need a good gpu and a good cpu. 

No you just need a monitor that has a refresh rate at the amount of frames you output. 144hz or greater.

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4 minutes ago, ShiFtyDetoX said:

so why do people strive to get the most FPS out of their system?

Like I said, e-peen. People just want higher numbers even if it makes no difference. 

 

6 minutes ago, EminentSun said:

The more frames you generate the closer your screen will be to what is actually happening on the server. And theoretically the less input lag you should have.

 

If you have a sixty hertz monitor and you get one frame for every refresh your image will always be about 1/60th of a second behind. If you monitor made 3 frames in that time though it would take the most recent frame reducing that delay to 1/180th of a second.

 

That's not how it works. If your monitor is 60Hz, it's always going to have the same amount of latency as long as you're at 60FPS or above. If you increase the refresh rate of the monitor and match the frames to the refresh rate, then the latency will go down. 

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

No it has nothing to do with servers or latency

Sorry meant to mean whats being calculated between frames. Not that fps = ping or anything. Lets say for the purpose of demonstration that your monitor refreshed once every second. If your computer finished one frame somewhere in the middle of that time, you would have about a half a second delay between when the frame was rendered and when it was displayed. if your computer generated say four frames in that time, then the delay between the most recent frame and it being displayed is around a quarter of a second. On a real monitor the difference is minimal, and it obviously can lead to bad image quality, but it is there.

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2 minutes ago, EminentSun said:

Sorry meant to mean whats being calculated between frames. Not that fps = ping or anything. Lets say for the purpose of demonstration that your monitor refreshed once every second. If your computer finished one frame somewhere in the middle of that time, you would have about a half a second delay between when the frame was rendered and when it was displayed. if your computer generated say four frames in that time, then the delay between the most recent frame and it being displayed is around a quarter of a second. On a real monitor the difference is minimal, and it obviously can lead to bad image quality, but it is there.

Well mostly it leads to screen tearing which visually is horrible once you go variable refresh.

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

which visually is horrible once you go variable refresh.

Yes, but some crazy people(mostly e-sports enthusiasts I'd imagine) find that a good trade.

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3 minutes ago, EminentSun said:

Yes, but some crazy people(mostly e-sports enthusiasts I'd imagine) find that a good trade.

They just want the least amount of latency everywhere. So 1ms compared to 4ms is huge

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CSGO is really the only game where this matters. I don't know the details, but there is apparently an issue with the engine that makes it unpleasant to play below 200 fps or something like that.

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Personally I aim for high fps because of general smoothness. And because dropping 20 fps from 120 to 100 doesn't feel as much as dropping from 50 to 30 would.

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