rx 480 [Review] Is this worst RX 480 4GB ever? It is not... sadly

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1 minute ago, ShampooCA said:

@deXxterlab97 So I was playing around with my card again, b/c I upgraded my main rig with some AMD Ryzen 1700 goodness, so my HTPC and RX480 got the Z77 ASRock board with an i7-3770.

I was playing around with voltages, and came to discover this card does NOT respond to raised voltages, rather it loves lower voltages.  Try decreasing voltages from stock by 5-10 mV at a time.  I have mine set to -6mV in Afterburner, and man the thing is much more stable at 1350MHz now.  This card doesn't stop giving and surprising!  What was supposed to be a cheap toss out card ended up being a "performer" in the RX480 world.

 

Not bad, not bad at all.

Well good. I am getting an AIO soon for this. For some reason it has to maintain a 95% ish fan speed while keeping temps under 80 ish degree while playing Tomb Raider

[ShampooCA]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Well good. I am getting an AIO soon for this. For some reason it has to maintain a 95% ish fan speed while keeping temps under 80 ish degree while playing Tomb Raider

@deXxterlab97 What the eff.  Sounds like a dud to me.  RMA?  My temperatures are stupid low now, rivaling my Asus GTX1070 card with its ROG/Strix cooler.  Power draw very low as well.  I would RMA before spending money on an AIO only because of the variation between your card and my card.  Even in different cases, that kinda variation in temperatures?  No way.

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Just now, ShampooCA said:

@deXxterlab97 What the eff.  Sounds like a dud to me.  RMA?  My temperatures are stupid low now, rivaling my Asus GTX1070 card with its ROG/Strix cooler.  Power draw very low as well.  I would RMA before spending money on an AIO only because of the variation between your card and my card.  Even in different cases, that kinda variation in temperatures?  No way.

Yeah no luck contacting Power Color. And well Newegg won't accept as I don't have original packaging. But whatever.

[ShampooCA]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

Yeah no luck contacting Power Color. And well Newegg won't accept as I don't have original packaging. But whatever.

@deXxterlab97 If you want I'll ship you my box.

[ShampooCA]

@deXxterlab97 Wait you're in Toronto, I'm in Toronto, I can give you my box.  I'm at Sheppard station Mon-Fri for work 9-5. Let me know.

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Just now, ShampooCA said:

@deXxterlab97 If you want I'll ship you my box.

Thank you but it's outside of return period sadly. 

[ShampooCA]

WTF that's terrible on PowerColor's part.  Damn.  Sorry to hear.  At least it's working right?  

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Just now, ShampooCA said:

WTF that's terrible on PowerColor's part.  Damn.  Sorry to hear.  At least it's working right?  

yeah. at least that works. well I will bombard them with loads of emails and pray for luck lol

 

[ShampooCA]

Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

yeah. at least that works. well I will bombard them with loads of emails and pray for luck lol

 

Don't forget the power of social media.  Twitter has helped me on numerous occasions from furniture to electronics to general service & issues around the city.

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Just now, ShampooCA said:

Don't forget the power of social media.  Twitter has helped me on numerous occasions from furniture to electronics to general service & issues around the city.

Yeah. The funniest part is. If you switch to Canada on their site it's in French because that's what the language of the majority of Canadian speaking

[Energycore]

11 hours ago, ShampooCA said:

I was playing around with voltages, and came to discover this card does NOT respond to raised voltages, rather it loves lower voltages.  Try decreasing voltages from stock by 5-10 mV at a time.  I have mine set to -6mV in Afterburner, and man the thing is much more stable at 1350MHz now.  This card doesn't stop giving and surprising!  What was supposed to be a cheap toss out card ended up being a "performer" in the RX480 world.

My findings have been entirely opposite. My card can only do 1450MHz if I shove 1.35V down it. What I think is probably happening on your side is that Polaris and any chip made on Samsung/GloFo's 16nm process is very sensitive to temperature. My 1450MHz overclock was stable at 70C, but not at 76C.

[ShampooCA]

On 4/14/2017 at 0:33 PM, Energycore said:

My findings have been entirely opposite. My card can only do 1450MHz if I shove 1.35V down it. What I think is probably happening on your side is that Polaris and any chip made on Samsung/GloFo's 16nm process is very sensitive to temperature. My 1450MHz overclock was stable at 70C, but not at 76C.

Yeah it's really counter intuitive and strange.  The temps don't go much higher than 70 on my card, and with the way it is now it's usually under 70.  Your Powercolor el-cheapo hits 1450?????  Wow.

[Energycore]

7 hours ago, ShampooCA said:

Yeah it's really counter intuitive and strange.  The temps don't go much higher than 70 on my card, and with the way it is now it's usually under 70.  Your Powercolor el-cheapo hits 1450?????  Wow.

It's an MSI Gaming X 8G

 

Do note that it's actually not an amazing piece of silicon. On the stock BIOS it only does 1350. But with an RX 580 BIOS I bet it will do 1400-1420 easily

[2FA]

Why is this thread so popular?

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Just now, DeadEyePsycho said:

Why is this thread so popular?

Because I made it

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Just now, deXxterlab97 said:

Because I made it

I kind of figured that was the case.

[ShampooCA]

Popular b/c budget performance is a hot topic always.

 

Fast and powerful stuff is fast and powerful, we know this, so I don't find it as "fun" when it comes to tinkering with it.

 

Edit: Making cheap stuff fairly fast and powerful bridging the gap between it and the good stuff is more entertaining. 

[Energycore]

10 hours ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

I kind of figured that was the case.

I still post in this topic a lot because I gave it a follow back when dexter was doing a very bad job undervolting his card. But now it's become a bit of a "post how you OC'd your 480" club.

 

That said when I flash a 580 BIOS on my 480 I will make a separate thread.

[ShampooCA]

Didn't someone take a shot of the PCB in high detail?

 

Or maybe not, can't find the image.

 

Wanted to see if buildzoid would do a brief analysis of our el-cheapo cards to see if it would be OK flashing with the 580 bios or if the card would meltdown b/c of the increase in voltage.

 

Also 4GB cards.  

[Energycore]

Just now, ShampooCA said:

Didn't someone take a shot of the PCB in high detail?

 

Or maybe not, can't find the image.

 

Wanted to see if buildzoid would do a brief analysis of our el-cheapo cards to see if it would be OK flashing with the 580 bios or if the card would meltdown b/c of the increase in voltage.

 

Also 4GB cards.  

Bro you got ninja'd

 

TL;DR don't flash a 580 BIOS if you have a crappy PCB / Cooling

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7 minutes ago, Energycore said:

I still post in this topic a lot because I gave it a follow back when dexter

deXxter. 

[ShampooCA]

Just now, Energycore said:

Bro you got ninja'd

 

TL;DR don't flash a 580 BIOS if you have a crappy PCB / Cooling

Yeah I saw some of this earlier and his post in one of the forums, and this is exactly what I was thinking when that TONY guy did the first flash.

That's why I want him to do an analysis of this card.  It's budget, but it could have a decent PCB and VRM setup.

I think I've got a decent chip considering I can do 1350/2250 completely stable, and not much wavering of the clock with a -6mV undervolt.  I tried with -10mV before too and it was fine, but didn't do much testing, temps are great, power usage is low, so leaving it there for now.

[ShampooCA]

@deXxterlab97 

 

So 2250MHz on the VRAM wasn't as stable as I'd initially thought.  Random lockups during games & while browsing, I couldn't figure it out.  Thought it was my aging system, but remembered some people saying they could only get their VRAM up between 2000-2200, so I dropped it down to 2200MHz, and all is well!

 

Hours of The Witcher 3 and no problems, when before I could only go for a little while before a lockup.

 

I'm gonna try for 1400Mhz now with no increase in voltages in Afterburner.  Without touching that, not sure if it's left on "auto" or if it stays at stock voltages.  Temps remain in and around 65 degrees while gaming & benchmarking so I'm not worried about too much voltage ramping up.  Power usage is really low as well, below 100watts.

 

Anyone else experience everything before Windows loads, showing up green?  So sometimes during a cold boot, but usually on a restart, everything is green, even in the BIOS.  So weird.  I thought something was damaged, but no problems, just green sometimes.  I'm using this card via HDMI to a receiver then to my TV.

I thought it was a bad cable, and switched it out, but same thing.

 

Again, no problems, just green.  Had this over at my desk on a BenQ XL2730Z via DP, and it was fine though. 

 

How's everyone's cards holding up?

[ShampooCA]

*crickets*

[MercuryRain]

On 1/4/2017 at 4:18 PM, deXxterlab97 said:

 

A display with digital port is required (HDMI or DisplayPort)? Bitch please. DVI here. See, they are lying. LYING...

 

 

 

You do know that DVI stands for DIGITAL Video Interface, yeah?