i3-6100 with a Z170-K?

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58 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Wait for the first k ever i3 processor coming with Kaby Lake

I'd rather get an i5 6400 than that unlocked i3 kabylake.

[aisle9]

22 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

No, just to use it  to learn overclocking and and get started giving purpose to the z170/270 motherboard where he can after saving some money buy the higher end CPU like the i7 7700k when the price gives some drop or find good used deal, My advise lays in the possibility of giving the motherboard some reason were him to insist in it, in the way I see it was still a helpful commentary.
If it was I personally I would go with h110m-c and i5 6500. Or Kaby Lake's equivalent.

I like your H110M and i5-6500/7500 idea, and I really do think that's the sweet spot setup. I'm not such a fan of the "learn overclocking" idea. That logic was awesome when we had a G3258 to stretch to its limits then replace with a 4690K/4790K, because the G3258 was a $60 CPU. The Kaby Lake i3-K will be around $180. I could go out and buy an i5-6500 for close to that, definitely get an i5-6400 at that price. The whole "learn to overclock on a cheap CPU" idea goes out the window too, when you consider that instead of spending $60 on a CPU that's a path to a $250 CPU, you're spending $180 on that same stepping stone.

 

I just don't see the i3-K having the same use cases as the G3258. If it cost $30-40 less and was multiplier unlocked on H and B boards (at least H), then I could see the justification easily for getting an uber-powerful i3 and a dirt cheap board. Intel's not going to let that happen for the same reason they tried to block it on the G3258: they don't want an i3 undercutting the sales of their higher end chips. The way the i3-K is set up, it's really designed for people that really want an overclockable i3.

 

Never mind that you can achieve the same effect with a $100 i3-6100 by using a Z-board with BCLK unlocked.

[Princess Luna]

19 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

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I have not played with overclocking since my Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 which I pushed to 3,4ghz from its original 2,9ghz and only done so because back then any mobo would do it and  the "free performance gain" true, however I have, with the help of people from here, come to the realization that overclocking the i5 will give you costs and variables that does not justify it, while I personally feel the i3 could only justify by "learning it" which you have showed me it is not a great idea at all either, I will adress about it later.

 

The whole overclocking process to me should be like nVidia is trying to show with SLI right now, only worth it in the highest end where it is the only way to go further, overclocking should be a thing for the i7's only, in my opinion, having a best performance - cost possible into full count. A locked i5 CPU is capable of most gaming and even decent work loads.

My mistake in thinking about the i3 is that I'm not updated on this area at all as I honestly upgraded from that core 2 duo to my current setup in signature, very big jump and after using my PC for the past 3 weeks I have been now certain that a high end gaming orientated PC is fine enough with the locked i7 when you want to achieve it making your money count, I will likely rebuild only in 2020/2021 and probably do the same, go with a cheap but reliable Asus motherboard for the current last gen intel locked i7 socket and the highest no OC memory frequency supported.