Intel Pentium G4400 vs. Amd 860k

[RoccatJumper]

I'm a little confused about my upcoming budget gaming pc because i see that there is a spec difference between these two CPU's.

My build will have a skylake intel pentium g4400 but this only has two cores and the amd 860k is a quad core and since games usually need a quad core to get some decent frames and minimal stutter.

what should i choose?

[Electronics Wizardy]

I'd probably go with the AMD althon 

[RGProductions]

I like my G4400, and it has an upgrade path

[Herman Mcpootis]

i'd pick the athlon, no upgrade path but less stuttering and fps drops(probably) compared to the pentium. you can also always just sell the motherboard later on anyways.

[SnowyMus]

Both are pretty good budget CPUs.

 

If you are planning on upgrading sometime in the future, the Pentium is a good CPU to start with, as there are lots of games you can currently run on it. You can then upgrade from there to a Skylake or Kaby Lake i3, i5, or i7. This processor also has integrated graphics, unlike the AMD option, if you need integrated graphics for something.

 

I'd personally go with the Athlon, otherwise, as this is the better processor overall. It's unlocked and has four cores (even if they're a bit inferior to Skylake cores), so you could get a good bang for your buck there. The main drawbacks include a lack of DDR4 support (not a huge deal but it's still notable as it can affect your performance even so) and a lack of support for newer architectures, since AMD's Summit Ridge processors are around the corner, now.

 

Some games benefit greatly from having four threads to work with, and some don't. I'd research the games you're looking to play if you want to make this decision, but if you run a lot of games, just getting a quad core and not looking back is fine.

[RoccatJumper]

2 minutes ago, Kavawuvi said:

Both are pretty good budget CPUs.

 

If you are planning on upgrading sometime in the future, the Pentium is a good CPU to start with, as there are lots of games you can currently run on it. You can then upgrade from there to a Skylake or Kaby Lake i3, i5, or i7. This processor also has integrated graphics, unlike the AMD option, if you need integrated graphics for something.

 

I'd personally go with the Athlon, otherwise, as this is the better processor overall. It's unlocked and has four cores (even if they're a bit inferior to Skylake cores), so you could get a good bang for your buck there. The main drawbacks include a lack of DDR4 support (not a huge deal but it's still notable as it will affect your performance even if it's not significant) and a lack of support for future architectures, since AMD's Summit Ridge processors are around the corner, now.

 

Some games benefit greatly from having four threads to work with, and some don't. I'd research the games you're looking to play if you want to make this decision, but if you run a lot of games, just getting a quad core and not looking back is fine.

Games i would generally like to play would be Gta 5, Just cause 3, Fallout 4, and Crysis 3.

And if you know a motherboard that isn't on the expensive side but lets you overclock the 860k that would be great.

You don't have to look for a cooler as i already ordered the hyper 212 evo.

[SLAYR]

2 minutes ago, RoccatJumper said:

Games i would generally like to play would be Gta 5, Just cause 3, Fallout 4, and Crysis 3.

And if you know a motherboard that isn't on the expensive side but lets you overclock the 860k that would be great.

You don't have to look for a cooler as i already ordered the hyper 212 evo.

The g4400 would have major stuttering issue in those games, I would recommend an a88x chipset board should be able to take the 860k to 4.4-4.5GHz with ease.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/832rxr/asrock-motherboard-fm2a88mpro3

[RoccatJumper]

3 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

The g4400 would have major stuttering issue in those games, I would recommend an a88x chipset board should be able to take the 860k to 4.4-4.5GHz with ease.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/832rxr/asrock-motherboard-fm2a88mpro3

Thank you very much. Didn't know that amd's overclocking boards where that cheap 

[SLAYR]

5 minutes ago, Strike105X said:

Actually there is one in which the G4400 if overclocked would perform better, Fallout 4, also thanks to the high speed memory, that said, i wouldn't recommend it due to how sketchy and flimsy intel overclocking is at this time, i would go for the 860k for better support and general gaming experience, personally i don't see future proofing worth much except for people who do have a solid base and are sure of a max 1 year further upgrade. Otherwise except for PSU, cooler (if your prefer air) and case there's not much point in future proofing, never really helped me.

G4400 is a locked chip the haswell g3258 is the only overclockable pentium.

[RoccatJumper]

1 minute ago, Strike105X said:

Actually there is one in which the G4400 if overclocked would perform better, Fallout 4, also thanks to the high speed memory, that said, i wouldn't recommend it due to how sketchy and flimsy intel overclocking is at this time, i would go for the 860k for better support and general gaming experience, personally i don't see future proofing worth much except for people who do have a solid base and are sure of a max 1 year further upgrade. Otherwise except for PSU, cooler (if your prefer air) and case there's not much point in future proofing, never really helped me.

I get your point. Not really looking into future proofing because i know that this pc isn't going to keep up with modern games and i'm just building this pc because my current one isnt capable of modern games. I don't have that much money especially since i can't work yet because i'm only 15. So i'm just playing the waiting game until i can build something that will suit me for a long time.

[RoccatJumper]

32 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

The g4400 would have major stuttering issue in those games, I would recommend an a88x chipset board should be able to take the 860k to 4.4-4.5GHz with ease.

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/832rxr/asrock-motherboard-fm2a88mpro3

I also have one last question. will my hyper 212 evo be blocking my ram slots?

[RoccatJumper]

1 minute ago, Strike105X said:

Yup for the long run the 860k will suit your build better. Luckly with AMD you can get some pretty good deals lately, especially with zen getting closer, it does help budget builds.

 

You'd have use some pretty insane high profile ram for it to be a problem :p.

Would this be a consideration for a different ram profile? Or would i be able to use a different slot because i heard that some boards only work with a specific slot.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

[Nena Trinity]

Athlon or jump to i3 or FX-6300

[SnowyMus]

11 hours ago, RoccatJumper said:

Games i would generally like to play would be Gta 5, Just cause 3, Fallout 4, and Crysis 3.

And if you know a motherboard that isn't on the expensive side but lets you overclock the 860k that would be great.

You don't have to look for a cooler as i already ordered the hyper 212 evo.

I'd definitely get the Athlon, then. It may not be winning any races, even if you overclock it, but you're definitely better off having four threads for at least most of these games.

 

Personally, the only dual-core Intel processor I'd consider for playing more modern AAA games, if I wasn't going to be upgrading for a while, is the Intel Core i3. There really isn't much around this.

[Apache Protocol]

G4400 + Z170 MoBo = Base Clock Overlock

G3258 + H81/B85/H87/H97/Z87/Z97 = Frequency Overlock

 

I would go with the Intel currently more option in future road, I have been to G3258 it works and yeah some games will bottleneck it but for the budget I had that time it was worth every penny. Sold the G3258 Purchase a i5 4590 always think that someday you will need more Power but it will be still up to you, I have watch and read a lot of good reviews about the G4400 and its IGPU for the games you will be playing Consider that a Dual Core might Bottleneck your System. But if the Games your playing for the meantime are MoBa and FPS. you can go by for now with the Dual Core base on my Experience my G3258 OC @ 4.7GHz on the that time was Pretty Good, always have your budget it took me 4 to 6 months to earn my cash and sold my G3258 and purchase i5 4590 because of the G3258 I earned a lot of cash for my CPU Upgrade.

 

 

12 hours ago, RoccatJumper said:

Games i would generally like to play would be Gta 5, Just cause 3, Fallout 4, and Crysis 3.

And if you know a motherboard that isn't on the expensive side but lets you overclock the 860k that would be great.

You don't have to look for a cooler as i already ordered the hyper 212 evo.

Go with the 860k. the games I played was CS:GO, DOTA 2 and BF4 at that time.

[Apache Protocol]

16 hours ago, Strike105X said:

The problem with dual cores is also that more and more (it started since 2013) games either don't support them well (they are focused more on 4 threads) or down right don't even work on them. Like i said if upgrade paths are available for sure its one thing, but in many cases including myself, whenever i future proofed (except for PSU, Cooling, and case) i got burned, if your not upgrading under one year then future proofing except for those components i listed doesn't seem like a good investement... Even i when i future proofed the time i got to upgrading it just wasn't worth it anymore to invest in the system, and that money could have been better spent elsewhere.

yes I know but OP games are pretty much will be playable but shutter will be noticeable, I have been gaming with a dual core for 6 months but cash flow was speeding up that time so got a chance of purchasing a i5.