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Why do some people insist that 4GB is still enough for gaming?

Something driving me nuts, I see so many people saying that 8GB is not necessary and 4GB is enough, sometimes even "more than enough".

 

They ignore that lots of modern games stutter with 4GB. Yeah, you can get away with 4GB with some titles, but a lot of them need 8GB nowadays so why bottleneck your system when memory is so cheap??? A 8GB RAM stick is like 10$ more than a 4GB stick, so why even consider that?...

 

By the way, most people I see saying this are on Youtube comments, so it shouldn't really be surprising. I doubt anyone on this forum would be that dumb.

 

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i game on only 6gb of ram (only because my pc is outdated as FUCK) and i already know my computer is starting to tax all 6 gigs. i need a new pc for sure.

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wait wut? last time I checked 8gb is now the new min and 16gb is now the norm to stay above the min wtf?

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that video was posted at the start of 2015. I guess the commenters are playing games that are 2 years old

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3 minutes ago, xephoneration said:

wait wut? last time I checked 8gb is now the new min and 16gb is now the norm to stay about the min wtf?

Exactly!

 

2 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

that video was posted at the start of 2015. I guess the commenters are playing games that are 2 years old

I'm not saying I just saw comments in just that video, I see these people saying this stuff all the time.

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I only hear people say this about VRAM and not regular RAM.

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1 minute ago, DeadEyePsycho said:

I only hear people say this about VRAM and not regular RAM.

You'd be surprised how cheap/stupid people can be..

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3 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

You'd be surprised how cheap/stupid people can be..

gotta save them few bucks my dude

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It depends on the game they're playing. 

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32 minutes ago, 2Buck said:
2 minutes ago, IAmLamp said:

It depends on the game they're playing. 

Yeah, you can get away with 4GB with some titles, but a lot of them need 8GB nowadays so why bottleneck your system when memory is so cheap???

 

 

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3 hours ago, 2Buck said:

 

Not everyone is using those higher end titles?..........

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24 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

You'd be surprised how cheap/stupid people can be..

Tell them to try using 4Gb it is a stuttery mess for any game released in the past few years that can use the ram, even 6Gb isn't enough for games today, and will have stuttering issues. 8Gb is the minimum, but really now 16Gb is becoming the recommended just because games like GTA V and such can use more then 8GB of system ram.

 

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1 minute ago, IAmLamp said:

Not everyone is using those higher end titles?..........

Again, if you're building a system, why would you not spend the extra 10$?

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1 minute ago, IAmLamp said:

Not everyone is using those higher end titles?..........

It doesn't have to be high end titles, or even gaming at all even just running google chrome you can run into issues with only 4Gb of ram.

 

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3 hours ago, 2Buck said:

Again, if you're building a system, why would you not spend the extra 10$?

Not everyone can afford it?....... Not everyone needs it so they decide not to..... Not everyone is going to be playing those higher end games...... some people just stick with emulators and stuff

 

There's so many possibilities that can fit here

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1 minute ago, 2Buck said:

Again, if you're building a system, why would you not spend the extra 10$?

Because its a lot more than $10 in most places. Id have to work 8 more hours for something I dont deffentily need

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Just to be clear, I'm not one to recommend 4GB for gaming. I personally recommend 8GB. 

 

Even 8GB soon might not be enough seeing how things are going. 

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9 minutes ago, IAmLamp said:

Not everyone can afford it?....... Not everyone needs it so they decide not to..... Not everyone is going to be playing those higher end games...... some people just stick with emulators and stuff

 

There's so many possibilities that can fit here

If you have the money to spend 350$+ building a rig, you can afford the extra ten bucks. Just saying.

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3 hours ago, 2Buck said:

If you have the money to spend 350$+ building a rig, you can afford the extra ten bucks. Just saying.

should go for*

 

does not necessarily mean that they can afford it

 

On the bright side, if they want to/need to, they can add sticks in the future (most likely anyway)

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1 minute ago, 2Buck said:

If you have the money to spend 350$+ building a rig, you can afford the extra ten bucks. Just saying.

Its more than 10 bucks mate, look at in in hours of work

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2 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Its more than 10 bucks mate, look at in in hours of work

 

2 minutes ago, IAmLamp said:

should go for*

 

does not necessarily mean that they can afford it

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This is ridiculous. It usually just takes turning down 1 or 2 settings to have completely fluent gameplay. I can run GTA 5 with 50-60 FPS on my GTX 760, with textures and almost everything at very high... only reflections turned down to high and AA off. I don't know what the hell they recorded this crap on but not even my 2 GB card stutters like this.

Benchmark comparisons between the 3 and 6 GB version of the 1060 also never show such large differences.

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44 minutes ago, Jovidah said:

This is ridiculous. It usually just takes turning down 1 or 2 settings to have completely fluent gameplay. I can run GTA 5 with 50-60 FPS on my GTX 760, with textures and almost everything at very high... only reflections turned down to high and AA off. I don't know what the hell they recorded this crap on but not even my 2 GB card stutters like this.

Benchmark comparisons between the 3 and 6 GB version of the 1060 also never show such large differences.

This is about RAM, not VRAM.

44 minutes ago, Clanscorpia said:

Dude, I live in canada, and DDR4 scales in price pretty linerally so to go from 8-16 is $80 for me and 4-8 is $40 or 4 hours of work

Fair enough.

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I don't even think 4GB is enough for Windows desktop usage and web browsing, much less gaming. It was fine when I was running Ubuntu but my system felt like a dinosaur on Windows 7 until I added another stick of RAM to bring it to 8GB.

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