AMD Will Tape Out 20nm & 14nm Chips In 2013 & Early 2014.

[TechFan@ic]

Lisa Su Senior Vice President & General Manager at AMD announced on Thursday that AMD will be taping out 20nm chips in the next quarter with 14nm FinFET chips following the quarter after it, siting the Feb 14 date for TSMC's 20nm node.

“We are typically at the leading edge across the technology nodes. We are fully top-top-bottom in 28nm now across all of our products, and we are transitioning to both 20nm and to FinFETs over the next couple of quarters in terms of designs. So we will continue to do that across our foundry partners. […] We will do 20nm first and then we will go to FinFETs,”

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This highly suggests that AMD's 20nm GPUs are very close to being ready for the manufacturing phase, we still do not know what will be made on the 14nm FinFET process but it will likely be one of AMD's low power cores due to the immaturity of the 14nm process, high-performance chips will likely follow later on once the process is more mature & the yields are more forgiving.

At this rate AMD will be closing in on Intel's 14nm plans, which are facing delays.
 

[CoolBeans]

These better be able to hit 5GHZ @60c load

[Woodypc]

Is it the FinFET  proses that make chips a lot better? Thought I read somewhere in here about it.

[TechFan@ic]

These better be able to hit 5GHZ @60c load

You can already do that with the current AMD chips as long as you have a good dual 120 (H100i) or dual 140 (Kraken X60) liquid cooler.

 

Is it the FinFET  proses that make chips a lot better? Thought I read somewhere in here about it.

FinFET transistors are three-dimentional unlike FD-SOI or HKMG which are planar, 3D transistors can't be clocked as high & get very hot.

[Mooshi]

Does this mean to hold onto my GTX 560 Ti a little while longer and get a new AMD gpu in Q4 2013/Q1 2014 for something that isn't a rebadge?

[Fetzie]

So this is possibly the FM2+?

[CoolBeans]

You can already do that with the current AMD chips as long as you have a good dual 120 (H100i) or dual 140 (Kraken X60) liquid cooler.

 

Then I better be able to achieve with these ones

[Woodypc]

So this is possibly the FM2+?

I want one more CPU to make the usage of my Sabertooth worth while.

[TechFan@ic]

Does this mean to hold onto my GTX 560 Ti a little while longer and get a new AMD gpu in Q4 2013/Q1 2014 for something that isn't a rebadge?

No, 28nm GPUs willl stay with us for a very long while, 20nm mass GPU production will begin in June/July of 2014 with availability on-shelf a couple of months after, so we're looking at September/November the earliest for Nvidia's Maxwell & AMD's Pirate Islands.

 

So this is possibly the FM2+?

Kaveri which is AMD's first FM2+ APU will be available in Febuary next year , manufacturing will begin in December on Globalfoundries' 28nm process.

[Mooshi]

No, 28nm GPUs willl stay with us for a very long while, 20nm mass GPU production will begin in June/July of 2014 with availability on-shelf a couple of months after, so we're looking at September/November the earliest for Nvidia's Maxwell & AMD's Pirate Islands.

 

Kaveri which is AMD's first FM+ APU will be available Febuary next year , manufacturing will begin in December on Globalfoundries' 28nm process.

 

That's a year long wait... :mellow:

[TechFan@ic]

That's a year long wait... :mellow:

Well that's why AMD is releasing the 290 series & that's why Nvidia is releasing the 780 Ti, those will remain the high-end products for a while.

[Humbug]

Is he talking about CPU or GPU chips?

[HaZardousLP]

That's a year long wait... :mellow:

 

Well they are just being released now...

[TechFan@ic]

Is he talking about CPU or GPU chips?

20nm GPUs, unknown 14nm product, probably a low power "Cat" or "ARM" core from AMD.

[Mooshi]

Well they are just being released now...

 

The newest GPUs from AMD are rebadges sans the R9 290x which is still 28nm. The OP mentioned 20nm gpus which aren't out yet.

[MeltyMoon]

I want one more CPU to make the usage of my Sabertooth worth while.

Probably not going to happen bud, sorry. Am3+ is a dead platform, I think their next flagship CPU will be on FM2

[Woodypc]

Probably not going to happen bud, sorry. Am3+ is a dead platform, I think their next flagship CPU will be on FM2

Yeh BUT I am still holding hope for Steamroller.

[MeltyMoon]

Yeh BUT I am still holding hope for Steamroller.

Same here bud, same here

[ofr057]

It good to hear Amd is on the war path now with good progress

 

FinFET transistors are three-dimentional unlike FD-SOI or HKMG which are planar, 3D transistors can't be clocked as high & get very hot.

 

Is this the reason why haswell is having issues?

[totjup5]

 

Yeh BUT I am still holding hope for Steamroller.

Same here man

[TechFan@ic]

It good to hear Amd is on the war path now with good progress

 

 

Is this the reason why haswell is having issues?

Ivy Bridge doesn't overclock as well as Sandy Bridge because of the FinFET transistors, Same for Haswell but add to that the additional heat by the integrated VRM.

[Derangel]

Ivy Bridge doesn't overclock as well as Sandy Bridge because of the FinFET transistors, Same for Haswell but add to that the additional heat by the integrated VRM.

 

Not to mention Intel's continued use of crappy thermal paste.

[acepro71]

You can already do that with the current AMD chips as long as you have a good dual 120 (H100i) or dual 140 (Kraken X60) liquid cooler.

 

we mean with the stock cooler !

 

and in like 30 C room temp

[Ryan Leech]

Does this mean to hold onto my GTX 560 Ti a little while longer and get a new AMD gpu in Q4 2013/Q1 2014 for something that isn't a rebadge?

Hold on until Maxwell

[Vitalius]

20nm GPUs, unknown 14nm product, probably a low power "Cat" or "ARM" core from AMD.

This is very likely considering AMD is on a war path for servers too...

 

Lol, the future is looking bright for them. Hopefully no screw ups occur. I'm still saying hold their stock through January. It might have dropped quite a bit at ER, but it will more than likely make it up. Just sell before next ER which should be in January. ER is painful on AMD, as it is for most technology companies. Though it gives it a time to rear back and build up more momentum.