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GTX 1060 ... 3GB & 6GB

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1 hour ago, dreamhacking said:

As far as I understand, the GTX 1060 is NOT a card for 1080P or above, is that correct? 

The target market is for people who plays at 1080P resolution. 

 

For 1080P, for most of the games, 2GB vram will be enough. I see 3GB will give benefit, but 6GB is overkill, isn't it? lol 

Shouldn't nvidia just make one version of a GTX 1060, and have it equip with 4GB vram and call it a day? 

 

comes to the end, which version would you get for a 60hz 1080P monitor? 

GTX 1060 ( and RX 470/480) are ideal 1080p Cards. Many games in 1440p too, but with limits (the higher the resolution, the more the Memory Bandwidth will bottleneck).

 

The 3gb Version is.... "ooooookay" for Today 1080p. But it's far from Future proof, and in fact, 3gb is not enough for the Performance. The Vram size will bottleneck in certain Games already.

 

For most games 2gb will be enough? Yes, if it's 2012. That was the case for my 4 year odl AMD 7870 2gb.

But today? Lets take Assassin's Creed Unity. 2 Year odl game. 1080p, Everything maxed out (only AA is down to FXAA). Vram consumption goes up to 3300 mb. So the 3gb model will be BARELY enough to run that).

When i go up to TXAA (which gets my GTX 1060 MSI Gaming X 6gb) down to around 43 fps~, Vram consumption shoots up to 4700-5000 mb. (usage... How much truly is needed is a different thing).

 

Witcher 3 is known to be very efficient on Vram, despite the good Graphics. But in 1080p and high/ultra settings, it's mostly between 3000-3500~ mb Vram.

2gb are almost unusable now. Just check some RX 460 tests, since that's available in 2 and 4gb Ram. There are games, where you get a Huge fps boost, because 2gb are NOT enough. On some games, the 4gb model get's 60 fps, while the 2gb model sits at 33 fps~. And an GTZX 1060 has more than double the Performance (2.5x Performance maybe even).

 

4gb would be good. But that's not really possible with 192 Bit memory interface ;)

That's why the 1060 has 6gb ram, and not 4 or 8.

Every 256 Bit GPU has either 2 gb, 4gb or 8gb ^^

Titan X has 386 Bit, and 12gb Vram. Both is exactly doubled from 192 bit, and 6gb Vram.

 

In the end, i would go for:

 

- Need to be cheap? RX 470 4gb (or 8gb, if it's like at least 30-50 bucks cheaper than a good GTX 1060 6gb model).

- Not that cheap? go for 1060, or RX 480 if you have a Freesync monitor, or if you want to use the card at least 4 full Years (since in 2 years or so (+- 1 year) the RX 480 might catch up due to better Driver Optimization and maybe better DX 12 optimization.

 

 

I personally had the 7870 4 years, and went with Nvidia. Wanted to get the EVGA SC originally, but wasnt available anywhere so.... i bite in the sour apple, and Payd 329 for the GTX 1060 MSI Gaming X 6G.

I don't regret it. This Card is a BEAST.

I never saw more than 66°C~ even with 27° Room temperature. Both Fans only went up to around 1000 rpm, which is not hearable for me (i have a Thermalright Macho HR 02, that speds up to 600 rpm only under load, and a Fractal Design R5 with Case fans set to max 650-700 rpm~), so a pretty quiet system.

My previous 279€ GTX 1060 Palit DUAL had 75-77°C under the same Conditions, and a Fan speed or 1900-2000 rpm.

 

And most Tests confirm this. The MSI Gaming is the best Custom design for the GTX 1060 on the Market. But it's a bit more pricy..

 

The RX 480 MSI Gaming X is also one of the 2 best RX 480 custom designs (other one beeing Powercolor Red Devil!), but it's still a few Decibels louder than the GTX 1060, and a few % slower.

Techpowerup had both MSI Gaming models in Test, so you can compare them very good in their game benchmarks.

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As far as I understand, the GTX 1060 is NOT a card for 1080P or above, is that correct? 

The target market is for people who plays at 1080P resolution. 

 

For 1080P, for most of the games, 2GB vram will be enough. I see 3GB will give benefit, but 6GB is overkill, isn't it? lol 

Shouldn't nvidia just make one version of a GTX 1060, and have it equip with 4GB vram and call it a day? 

 

comes to the end, which version would you get for a 60hz 1080P monitor? 

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As far as I understand, the GTX 1060 is NOT a card for 1080P or above, is that correct? 

The target market is for people who plays at 1080P resolution. 

 

For 1080P, for most of the games, 2GB vram will be enough. I see 3GB will give benefit, but 6GB is overkill, isn't it? lol 

Shouldn't nvidia just make one version of a GTX 1060, and have it equip with 4GB vram and call it a day? 

 

comes to the end, which version would you get for a 60hz 1080P monitor? 

Compare the specs on Nvidia's website of the 3GB GTX 1060 to the 6GB GTX 1060. The GTX 1060 is truly a GTX 1050 and shouldn't be bought as it sends a message to Nvidia "not fucking happening a second time" (geforce 6200, and its later turbo cache revison).

 

TL;DR   go with the GTX 1060 6GB as its not a rip off.

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1 minute ago, RollinLower said:

i would still get the 6GB version. i used to have a R9 290X on a 1080P monitor, and even then in some games i would have too little VRAM available. 

fair enough, the 290X is already equip with 4GB, so if you have vram issues, the 3GB has no reason to be released lol 

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1 minute ago, dreamhacking said:

As far as I understand, the GTX 1060 is NOT a card for 1080P or above, is that correct? 

The target market is for people who plays at 1080P resolution. 

 

For 1080P, for most of the games, 2GB vram will be enough. I see 3GB will give benefit, but 6GB is overkill, isn't it? lol 

Shouldn't nvidia just make one version of a GTX 1060, and have it equip with 4GB vram and call it a day? 

 

comes to the end, which version would you get for a 60hz 1080P monitor? 

Yes, your first point is correct. But 6GB isn´t overkill. Games these days consume more then 4GB at 1080p. That will increase in the future. The 3GB one is targeted at casual gamers who play CS:GO, Dota 2 or LoL.

I would get the 6GB version if you plan on playing AAA-titles.

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Depends on the game like Overwatch at max settings in 4K uses maybe 2gb of Vram. GTA V at 1080p used like 5.5gb

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27 minutes ago, dreamhacking said:

fair enough, the 290X is already equip with 4GB, so if you have vram issues, the 3GB has no reason to be released lol 

There are very few games that make me lower texture details from Ultra to High with my 4GB 290X at 1200p, one of those few games is Rise of the Tomb Raider for example.

 

1060 3GB is not worth it, not only it's a cut-down core, but 3GB is not enough for 1080p. RX 480 4GB is not only a better option in terms of VRAM, but it also has a full-featured Polaris chip, and the part that was "cut down" from the 1060 core might just be the difference in performance seen between 480 and 1060 in their 8GB-6GB variants.

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Get the 6gb card. Also, a 1060 is fine for 1440p.

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3GB 1060 is a stupid product and should be avoided.

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Just now, Morgan MLGman said:

There are very few games that make me lower texture details from Ultra to High with my 4GB 290X at 1200p, one of those few games is Rise of the Tomb Raider for example.

 

1060 3GB is not worth it, not only it's a cut-down core, but 3GB is not enough for 1080p. RX 480 4GB is not only a better option in terms of VRAM, but it also has a full-featured Polaris chip, and the part that was "cut down" from the 1060 core might just be the difference in performance seen between 480 and 1060 in their 8GB-6GB variants.

so if i am looking for a GTX 1060, 6GB version should be the only one i consider. 

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Just now, dreamhacking said:

so if i am looking for a GTX 1060, 6GB version should be the only one i consider. 

Yep. What resolution are you on? For 1080p, the 6GB 1060 is a better buy than RX 480 8GB (provided there's a very minor, or non-existant price difference), but at 1440p it's a little different story, where IMHO the 480 is a better buy and I can tell you why if you're looking to 1440p.

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34 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

i would still get the 6GB version. i used to have a R9 290X on a 1080P monitor, and even then in some games i would have too little VRAM available. 

The only game that i heard could choke Hawaii 4GB frame buffer @1080p is Rise Of the Tomb Raider. What is the other games?

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5 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Yep. What resolution are you on? For 1080p, the 6GB 1060 is a better buy than RX 480 8GB (provided there's a very minor, or non-existant price difference), but at 1440p it's a little different story, where IMHO the 480 is a better buy and I can tell you why if you're looking to 1440p.

Just using 1080P @ 60hz 
if i am going to use a 1440P, i will definitely get a GTX 1070 

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The only game that i heard could choke Hawaii 4GB frame buffer @1080p is Rise Of the Tomb Raider. What is the other games?

Hmmmm, I'm at 1200p so it's around 11,1% more pixels, but as for a game... Batman: Arkham Knight is the only one I can think of, but only first patches, because after that VRAM usage was fixed. Maybe GTA V? I never played it myself.

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Just using 1080P @ 60hz 
if i am going to use a 1440P, i will definitely get a GTX 1070 

Then get the 6GB 1060, unless the 480 is cheaper. What are the prices in your location?

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3 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Then get the 6GB 1060, unless the 480 is cheaper. What are the prices in your location?

comparing the msi models from my local store. 

 

msi RX 480 8GB Gaming X - $400 CAD

msi GTX 1060 6GB Gaming X - $400 CAD

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12 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Hmmmm, I'm at 1200p so it's around 11,1% more pixels, but as for a game... Batman: Arkham Knight is the only one I can think of, but only first patches, because after that VRAM usage was fixed. Maybe GTA V? I never played it myself.

GTA:V never choke my 290x VRAM even at 4x MSAA@1080p.

 

57 minutes ago, dreamhacking said:

As far as I understand, the GTX 1060 is NOT a card for 1080P or above, is that correct? 

The target market is for people who plays at 1080P resolution. 

 

For 1080P, for most of the games, 2GB vram will be enough. I see 3GB will give benefit, but 6GB is overkill, isn't it? lol 

Shouldn't nvidia just make one version of a GTX 1060, and have it equip with 4GB vram and call it a day? 

 

comes to the end, which version would you get for a 60hz 1080P monitor? 

Most of DX11 games, from what i've seen so far DX12/Vulkan/Mantle generally use more VRAM so 2GB won't cut it and probably 3GB as well. We've seen that in Doom and Hitman.

 

Definitely get the 6GB if price different is not big, like $30-$50 big.

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22 minutes ago, dreamhacking said:

comparing the msi models from my local store. 

 

msi RX 480 8GB Gaming X - $400 CAD

msi GTX 1060 6GB Gaming X - $400 CAD

Then get the 1060. What about the cheapest models?

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1 hour ago, dreamhacking said:

comes to the end, which version would you get for a 60hz 1080P monitor? 

I assume Nvidia is pushing the 1060 3 GB version as their card intended for gaming at 1080p and high framerates in low-demand, highly popular games like League of Legends, Dota 2, Blizzard games, CS:GO, etc. If you're that type of gamer, it might be well-suited to you. Otherwise I'd get the 6 GB version.

 

It's also worth noting that the memory size isn't the only difference. The 3 GB GTX 1060 is actually a cut-down version of the chip, so the price does buy you something more than just VRAM. The 6 GB version will probably be a bit faster regardless.

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10 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

price different is not big, like $30-$50 big.

i don't want the cheapest model haha, i like the cooling design of the msi. 

so i will probably get the GTX 1060 Gaming X since it's same price as the RX 480 Gaming X, but with maybe 15% - 20% better performance? =P

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1 hour ago, dreamhacking said:

As far as I understand, the GTX 1060 is NOT a card for 1080P or above, is that correct? 

The target market is for people who plays at 1080P resolution. 

 

For 1080P, for most of the games, 2GB vram will be enough. I see 3GB will give benefit, but 6GB is overkill, isn't it? lol 

Shouldn't nvidia just make one version of a GTX 1060, and have it equip with 4GB vram and call it a day? 

 

comes to the end, which version would you get for a 60hz 1080P monitor? 

GTX 1060 ( and RX 470/480) are ideal 1080p Cards. Many games in 1440p too, but with limits (the higher the resolution, the more the Memory Bandwidth will bottleneck).

 

The 3gb Version is.... "ooooookay" for Today 1080p. But it's far from Future proof, and in fact, 3gb is not enough for the Performance. The Vram size will bottleneck in certain Games already.

 

For most games 2gb will be enough? Yes, if it's 2012. That was the case for my 4 year odl AMD 7870 2gb.

But today? Lets take Assassin's Creed Unity. 2 Year odl game. 1080p, Everything maxed out (only AA is down to FXAA). Vram consumption goes up to 3300 mb. So the 3gb model will be BARELY enough to run that).

When i go up to TXAA (which gets my GTX 1060 MSI Gaming X 6gb) down to around 43 fps~, Vram consumption shoots up to 4700-5000 mb. (usage... How much truly is needed is a different thing).

 

Witcher 3 is known to be very efficient on Vram, despite the good Graphics. But in 1080p and high/ultra settings, it's mostly between 3000-3500~ mb Vram.

2gb are almost unusable now. Just check some RX 460 tests, since that's available in 2 and 4gb Ram. There are games, where you get a Huge fps boost, because 2gb are NOT enough. On some games, the 4gb model get's 60 fps, while the 2gb model sits at 33 fps~. And an GTZX 1060 has more than double the Performance (2.5x Performance maybe even).

 

4gb would be good. But that's not really possible with 192 Bit memory interface ;)

That's why the 1060 has 6gb ram, and not 4 or 8.

Every 256 Bit GPU has either 2 gb, 4gb or 8gb ^^

Titan X has 386 Bit, and 12gb Vram. Both is exactly doubled from 192 bit, and 6gb Vram.

 

In the end, i would go for:

 

- Need to be cheap? RX 470 4gb (or 8gb, if it's like at least 30-50 bucks cheaper than a good GTX 1060 6gb model).

- Not that cheap? go for 1060, or RX 480 if you have a Freesync monitor, or if you want to use the card at least 4 full Years (since in 2 years or so (+- 1 year) the RX 480 might catch up due to better Driver Optimization and maybe better DX 12 optimization.

 

 

I personally had the 7870 4 years, and went with Nvidia. Wanted to get the EVGA SC originally, but wasnt available anywhere so.... i bite in the sour apple, and Payd 329 for the GTX 1060 MSI Gaming X 6G.

I don't regret it. This Card is a BEAST.

I never saw more than 66°C~ even with 27° Room temperature. Both Fans only went up to around 1000 rpm, which is not hearable for me (i have a Thermalright Macho HR 02, that speds up to 600 rpm only under load, and a Fractal Design R5 with Case fans set to max 650-700 rpm~), so a pretty quiet system.

My previous 279€ GTX 1060 Palit DUAL had 75-77°C under the same Conditions, and a Fan speed or 1900-2000 rpm.

 

And most Tests confirm this. The MSI Gaming is the best Custom design for the GTX 1060 on the Market. But it's a bit more pricy..

 

The RX 480 MSI Gaming X is also one of the 2 best RX 480 custom designs (other one beeing Powercolor Red Devil!), but it's still a few Decibels louder than the GTX 1060, and a few % slower.

Techpowerup had both MSI Gaming models in Test, so you can compare them very good in their game benchmarks.

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1 hour ago, xAcid9 said:

The only game that i heard could choke Hawaii 4GB frame buffer @1080p is Rise Of the Tomb Raider. What is the other games?

nope, it was indeed Rise of the Tomb Raider! still though, it got choppy as hell on my 290X, and i even hybrid cooled the damn thing!

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