Which is better i3 6100 or FX8350?

[Dackzy]

oh and to the guys that has a hard time understanding this: average fps DOES NOT MATTER IF IT STUTTERS A LOT and guess what the i3 does a lot, it stutters.

[SnowyMus]

18 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

The Wraith Cooler is surprisingly good actually - it can easily beat most 20$ coolers while being free.

i5s are a mixed bag - FX8 can beat them in multi-core (as evident in Cinebench where a locked i5 4460 gets hammered by the 8350 even at stock)

Games are multi-thread - Witcher 3, Fallout4, DOOM, Total War Warhammer and etc - all make use of many cores - hence why i7s are also showing a big gain over i5s now. And why i5s are also bottlenecking the high end cards in those games.

DigitalFoundry did make a video about the i5-6500, which does show that i5s are starting to falter a bit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUTPgWYTqyk). It wasn't long ago when they used to have the same exact performance in gaming as the i7s if clocked at the same frequency, which often resulted in a bunch of people flat-out saying that getting an i7 for anything was a waste of money.

 

I can personally confirm that Fallout 4 runs very well on an i3-6100 with a 2 GB GTX 960 at 1080p (high preset - turn down shadows a bit but have AA and AF maxed out), having tried it myself, though I'm wondering how well it'll handle mods. Probably not well.

[don_svetlio]

1 hour ago, Kavawuvi said:

DigitalFoundry did make a video about the i5-6500, which does show that i5s are starting to falter a bit (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUTPgWYTqyk). It wasn't long ago when they used to have the same exact performance in gaming as the i7s if clocked at the same frequency, which often resulted in a bunch of people flat-out saying that getting an i7 for anything was a waste of money.

 

I can personally confirm that Fallout 4 runs very well on an i3-6100 with a 2 GB GTX 960 at 1080p (high preset - turn down shadows a bit but have AA and AF maxed out), having tried it myself, though I'm wondering how well it'll handle mods. Probably not well.

Exactly - and the addition of GP104 made things even worse for i5s. A locked i5 will result in 10-20fps less on a 1070 and even more on a 1080 in quite a few games. They're simply reaching their limits. Hopefully Intel and AMD give us a replacement for them with a much needed boost. Eagerly awaiting six-core i5s and 8-core Zen alternatives

[Morgan MLGman]

4 hours ago, HKZeroFive said:

If you were to ask me, the i3 6100 simply because of the upgrade path and single core performance. The four threads will act as 'cores'.

FX-8350 is 80% faster across all threads (that's almost 2x faster), while being like 30% slower single-threaded-wise. Only a very limited amount of older, or poorly optimized games will run better on the i3. Unless he's upgrading within 3 months period, the 8350 is a much better choice.

 

One of the users here bought an i3-6100 for his secondary rig, and all he's got was an i3-based stutterfest. Cores maxed out extremely fast in a multitude of games which resulted in stuttering. Apparently, the A10-7850K that he had in the rig before the i3 did better, it didn't give higher AVG FPS, but didn't stutter and the gameplay was much smoother despite that.

[Guest]

I don't think I'd buy anything lower than an i5-6600k. (Haswell Xeon build would also be an alternative at a similar price point.) 

 

If you are on a budget, I'd probably just pick up a a 860/870/880k or a FX-63XX. 

 

The FX-8XXX series is worth $100 dollars IMO, if you can grab one for that, go for it. 

[Sintezza]

Dual core cpu´s like a core i3 dont realy make a whole lot of sense in gaming anymore.

Higher average fps doesnt tell the whole story of course.

The problem with dual core cpu´s is simply that no matter how you look at it it still only has 2 physical cores.

In modern AAA games today those 2 cores get stressed to their max pretty quickly, which can result in a stutter fest rather quickly by just the smalest interupt of a back ground process on the OS.

 

Next to that people just watch too much at Digital Foundry´s nonsense video´s.

[GirlFromYonder]

On 14/07/2016 at 4:42 PM, don_svetlio said:

The Wraith Cooler is surprisingly good actually - it can easily beat most 20$ coolers while being free.

i5s are a mixed bag - FX8 can beat them in multi-core (as evident in Cinebench where a locked i5 4460 gets hammered by the 8350 even at stock)

Games are multi-thread - Witcher 3, Fallout4, DOOM, Total War Warhammer and etc - all make use of many cores - hence why i7s are also showing a big gain over i5s now. And why i5s are also bottlenecking the high end cards in those games.

So u are saying that a xeon would have been better than my i5

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

So u are saying that a xeon would have been better than my i5

something like a e3-1231 v3 would have been better in general and moving into the future. Sure. The 6500 probably will have it beat in some titles at 4 GHz (Your sig says it's OC'd? ), but the majority of newer titles with this next gen GPU's is going to benefit from the xeon. 

[don_svetlio]

11 minutes ago, DeezNoNos said:

So u are saying that a xeon would have been better than my i5

Yep

[GirlFromYonder]

2 hours ago, Alexokan said:

something like a e3-1231 v3 would have been better in general and moving into the future. Sure. The 6500 probably will have it beat in some titles at 4 GHz (Your sig says it's OC'd? ), but the majority of newer titles with this next gen GPU's is going to benefit from the xeon. 

Yup OCed

 

I should have gone xeon. They games that i wanna play all support hyperthreading (gta 5, doom etc)

[xGGAx]

lol at the ppl saying that the i3 will stutter in games. There are plenty of videos on youtube that proof the i3 is pretty solid(even at 4k):

if you still think the fx is better because it has "more cores" maybe you should get the fx-8150 (also 8 cores, so much powa)

the i3 has a better upgrade path, is newer, has better power efficiency than anything amd has to offer

[TheSuspect]

8350 mainly because it's got double the cores and better Oc'ing potential