XFX RX480 Only Using 60%?

[DisconnectedYT]

So in ark survival evolved with my XFX RX480 8GB OC i get 45FPS in ark but my GPU is only using 60% load?

My CPU is a Pentium G3258 @5Ghz and its at 100% load.

And my Ram is at 50% load it and 8GB Kingston Budget.

Why dose it not let me use the extra 40% on the GPU to get more fps?

[Megahurt]

The cpu feeds the gpu, if it's at 100%, it can't do any more, so the gpu just sits there for the cpu to tell it what to do. It's called a cpu bottleneck.

[DisconnectedYT]

1 minute ago, Megahurt said:

The cpu feeds the gpu, if it's at 100%, it can't do any more, so the gpu just sits there for the cpu to tell it what to do. It's called a cpu bottleneck.

so i need a better CPU?

[Jumper118]

3 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

so i need a better CPU?

Yes.  A 4670k or 4690k would be a good upgrade. 

[ivan134]

Your 480 is not being fed fast enough. Get an i5 4460 at least.

[Enderman]

you need an i5 or i7

[Dionyz]

11 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

So in ark survival evolved with my XFX RX480 8GB OC i get 45FPS in ark but my GPU is only using 60% load?

My CPU is a Pentium G3258 @5Ghz and its at 100% load.

And my Ram is at 50% load it and 8GB Kingston Budget.

Why dose it not let me use the extra 40% on the GPU to get more fps?

Unless you are playing 4k you are not going to utilize the full amount.

[Atmos]

4 minutes ago, Dionyz said:

Unless you are playing 4k you are not going to utilize the full amount.

100% Not true.

At 1080p with a solid cpu you can easily see 100% usage.

 

His problem is that his cpu is so underpowered it cannot funnel enough data downstream to the gpu. He's being cpu bottlenecked.

 

@DisconnectedYT You'll need a beefier cpu. Something alone the lines of a i5 4460 as a minimum before you start seeing 100% gpu usage. For the price of the 4460 though, you might even be able to find a xeon 1231v3 (which have dropped in price recently a bit more) and are basically i7 4790's without the integrated graphics. Which doesn't really matter to you, since you already have a dedicated gpu.

[ZestyJalapeno]

That is what's called a CPU bottleneck. The G3258 at 5Ghz, is still a dual core. These days you need an i5 or an 6300/8320 if you want to not bottleneck a GPU/ 

 

Analogy 101: The 4 cylinder in my dad's Toyota can rev to 8000rpm, but it won't come anywhere near as powerful as the V8 in a Corvette at 3000rpm.

 

[BirdyTheMighty]

what all these guys said your cpu is crippling your RX 480, your Pentium is only a dual core after all. 

 

Getting a cheap i5 (Model of the i5 in question will depend on your socket) will remove your cpu bottleneck 

[Atmos]

7 minutes ago, Dogeystyle said:

That is what's called a CPU bottleneck. The G3258 at 5Ghz, is still a dual core. These days you need an i5 or an 6300/8320 if you want to not bottleneck a GPU/ 

 

Analogy 101: The 4 cylinder in my dad's Toyota can rev to 8000rpm, but it won't come anywhere near as powerful as the V8 in a Corvette at 3000rpm.

 

The 6300 will still bottleneck in a lot of situations, so will the rest of the fx series. While its true that they are mostly better than the g32 in most games purely because of not having only two cores, their single threaded performance just isnt up to par in some games that are particularly badly optimized on the cpu end. Games like arma that are basically incapable of running on more than a single core tend to force the fx line of cpus down to their knees, crippling game play. However, most games that are being released do have better and better multicore support, so that is something at least.

 

Minimum these days for a gaming cpu has got to at least be an i3, but only for an extreme budget build and it means you can simply upgrade to a much better cpu once you find the cash to. The bottom of the line solid cpu that won't need to be upgraded should be around the i5 4460 area; they won't bottleneck even high end cards in most situations, and will continue to do so for quite some time, especially since intel has been (to partially quote linus) "sitting on ass" for the last few generations, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

[Energycore]

No matter how much you OC your pentium, it's still a Dual Core

 

You're in for a CPU upgrade

[ZestyJalapeno]

2 minutes ago, Atmos said:

The 6300 will still bottleneck in a lot of situations, so will the rest of the fx series. While its true that they are mostly better than the g32 in most games purely because of not having only two cores, their single threaded performance just isnt up to par in some games that are particularly badly optimized on the cpu end. Games like arma that are basically incapable of running on more than a single core tend to force the fx line of cpus down to their knees, crippling game play. However, most games that are being released do have better and better multicore support, so that is something at least.

 

Minimum these days for a gaming cpu has got to at least be an i3, but only for an extreme budget build and it means you can simply upgrade to a much better cpu once you find the cash to. The bottom of the line solid cpu that won't need to be upgraded should be around the i5 4460 area.

I was predicating my FX argument providing the game in question was already well optimised and the build was from scratch. Arma runs shite on my 4790k, and it doesn't even look that good. Obviously if I were the OP the only upgrade path would be an i5. 

[Atmos]

5 minutes ago, Dogeystyle said:

I was predicating my FX argument providing the game in question was already well optimised and the build was from scratch. Arma runs shite on my 4790k, and it doesn't even look that good. Obviously if I were the OP the only upgrade path would be an i5. 

Ark's multicore support isn't really anything to write home about. For the same price as the 8320 and a board to support it you'd easily be able to get your hands on a 4460 with a decent board. 

 

to rec. a cpu purely because one game that someone plays at least has moderate support for more than a couple cores, when there are better cpus out there at the same price which will beat it in a vast majority of games is pretty irresponsible imo. The 4460 offers better single threaded performance for games that suffer in cpu optimization, and offers far better performance in games with even good multicore support, since multicore support tends to almost completely fall off after 4 cores.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Atmos said:

100% Not true.

At 1080p with a solid cpu you can easily see 100% usage.

 

His problem is that his cpu is so underpowered it cannot funnel enough data downstream to the gpu. He's being cpu bottlenecked.

 

@DisconnectedYT You'll need a beefier cpu. Something alone the lines of a i5 4460 as a minimum before you start seeing 100% gpu usage. For the price of the 4460 though, you might even be able to find a xeon 1231v3 (which have dropped in price recently a bit more) and are basically i7 4790's without the integrated graphics. Which doesn't really matter to you, since you already have a dedicated gpu.

I think he meant with that CPU. Which, he wouldn't be wrong. He'd start alleviating the CPU bottleneck the higher the resolution gets. 

[Atmos]

39 minutes ago, Alexokan said:

I think he meant with that CPU. Which, he wouldn't be wrong. He'd start alleviating the CPU bottleneck the higher the resolution gets. 

I find it highly unlikely that they were talking in that sense. It wouldnt make any sense at all with the frame of conversation or question posed.

[DisconnectedYT]

Is the Xeon E3-1231V3 good enough?

Specs

3.8Ghz (Boost) (8MB Cache)

Quad-Core 8 Thread

Only problem is, will it go in a Z97 motherboard?

[DannyRyu]

8 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

Is the Xeon E3-1231V3 good enough?

Specs

3.8Ghz (Boost) (8MB Cache)

Quad-Core 8 Thread

Only problem is, will it go in a Z97 motherboard?

It will. you can't overclock it. its a BEAST of a CPU for any multi-tasker. but not the best for games but well near the top. when you start adding streaming+Video recording editing hands down the 1231v3

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 hours ago, DisconnectedYT said:

Is the Xeon E3-1231V3 good enough?

Only problem is, will it go in a Z97 motherboard?

yes and yes...it's a very good value CPU...it's the same as the i7-4770 but without the integrated graphics which you don't need anyways...very good CPU for the money and yes it will work perfectly fine in your Z97 motherboard...it's locked though so no overclocking but you should be able to easily lock the boost clock to all 8 threads with a Z97 board if you tweak in the bios a bit.

[DocSwag]

On July 12, 2016 at 3:49 PM, DisconnectedYT said:

Is the Xeon E3-1231V3 good enough?

Specs

3.8Ghz (Boost) (8MB Cache)

Quad-Core 8 Thread

Only problem is, will it go in a Z97 motherboard?

I know this thread is old, but let me ask you something:

You had a 970 before. Why in the world did you shell out 240 bucks for a REFERENCE rx 480 that performs about the same and is louder?!?

[DisconnectedYT]

5 hours ago, DocSwag said:

I know this thread is old, but let me ask you something:

You had a 970 before. Why in the world did you shell out 240 bucks for a REFERENCE rx 480 that performs about the same and is louder?!?

Cause i like AMD better but thats just me, seems like a waste of money to everyone but i got some spare money from selling that GPU so i can also buy that CPU

[DocSwag]

15 minutes ago, DisconnectedYT said:

Cause i like AMD better but thats just me, seems like a waste of money to everyone but i got some spare money from selling that GPU so i can also buy that CPU

How much did you seek the 970 for? Cause if you sold it for anything less than 200 dollars, it seems to me like a pretty big waste of money....

[DisconnectedYT]

1 minute ago, DocSwag said:

How much did you seek the 970 for? Cause if you sold it for anything less than 200 dollars, it seems to me like a pretty big waste of money....

I sold it a long time ago for $450AUD