OnePlus 3 launched ($399) Updated: reviews out

[Jumper118]

why is there no 256gb option? 

[Trixanity]

3 minutes ago, atrash said:

 

WIth not micro sd storage option, they probably thought transfer speed is not going to matter that much with that limited internal storage. The reason I ask for the usage scenario is because I see the benefit of having one on W10M I own with Continuum but idk about Android phones.

 

ANd that display,imo what's good in having great camera when you have poor display to view your photos with. Kinda disappointed with that.

Well, to be honest I think most microSD cards will bottleneck the transfer speed to the point where it's not a big deal. I'm not sure what the average speed on microSD cards are but I'd think it's between 15-75 MB/s (large gap, I know, can't be bothered to research it). USB 2 tops out at 30 MB/s (ish), so obviously some benefit but we're starting to see internal storage doing 200-450 MB/s, so they can really benefit from the fast speed. Although to be fair, most USB flash drives probably top out at 100 MB/s write, so it's just a mess of bottlenecks here and there.

 

Yes, Continuum is one very obvious feature of high bandwidth USB but didn't mention it because Android doesn't have that. You can connect a display and it could benefit from DPoverUSB but even MicroUSB has that capability through various SlimPort/MHL implementations. And it's clearly not as useful as Continuum. I mean I've connected my phone to a display once or twice just to try it for the novelty but that's it.

 

The display is probably your run-of-the-mill AMOLED display. Probably an older panel from Samsung. Samsung (as far as I know) reserve their best panels for their own devices. So it's probably not gonna be too good and I doubt they'll calibrate it properly. But to be fair most phones will probably 'distort' the photos you take as in the display not being excellent and/or not calibrated properly. Alternately, you'd have to export the photos and view them on a proper display.

[Trixanity]

13 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

If they had full featured type c you can charge faster, and run display port though it

Power delivery is separate from all bandwidth related features of USB-C. Most USB-C devices only support USB 2.0 but have fast charging capabilities (and microB also had fast charging although probably implemented differently)

4 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

why is there no 256gb option? 

If I recall, Samsung just announced the world's first 256 GB chip. It will be expensive as hell and availability will be scarce (if you can even buy chips right now). You won't see it in a $399 phone.

[Jumper118]

2 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Power delivery is separate from all bandwidth related features of USB-C. Most USB-C devices only support USB 2.0 but have fast charging capabilities (and microB also had fast charging although probably implemented differently)

If I recall, Samsung just announced the world's first 256 GB chip. It will be expensive as hell and availability will be scarce (if you can even buy chips right now). You won't see it in a $399 phone.

you can get a 256gb mirco sd card and there are a few 128gb phone at least. 64gb isnt really enough. 

[Starelementpoke]

3 hours ago, Suika said:

Coincidentally I'm considering upgrading from my Nexus 6P.

Dibs on it if you do.

[Starelementpoke]

2 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

you can get a 256gb mirco sd card and there are a few 128gb phone at least. 64gb isnt really enough. 

Is for me. No clue how'd I use more on a phone.

[The Benjamins]

3 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

Power delivery is separate from all bandwidth related features of USB-C. Most USB-C devices only support USB 2.0 but have fast charging capabilities (and microB also had fast charging although probably implemented differently)

If I recall, Samsung just announced the world's first 256 GB chip. It will be expensive as hell and availability will be scarce (if you can even buy chips right now). You won't see it in a $399 phone.

My point is I want a phone to have USB 3.0/3.1 Type c with DP support. But so far they all been using USB 2 and it is why I have not upgraded yet.

[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, Starelementpoke said:

Is for me. No clue how'd I use more on a phone.

take videos in 4k and pictures in raw. easy fills 64gb  

[Starelementpoke]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

take videos in 4k and pictures in raw. easy fills 64gb  

Expect I have no reason to do so. 1440p is still a fantasy land for me.

[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, The Benjamins said:

My point is I want a phone to have USB 3.0/3.1 Type c with DP support. But so far they all been using USB 2 and it is why I have not upgraded yet.

i agree transfer speed getting stuff on and off phone is way too slow. 

[Jumper118]

2 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

Expect I have no reason to do so. 1440p is still a fantasy land for me.

i didnt say you did? i was just saying thats how anyone could use up 64gb and would need more. 

[Starelementpoke]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

i didnt say you did? i was just saying thats how anyone could use up 64gb and would need more. 

I know, just saying I don't, so doesn't really effect me.

[The Benjamins]

3 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

i agree transfer speed getting stuff on and off phone is way too slow. 

When I used 3.0 on a note 2 you could copy movies 3-5 times faster, but because of the crappy micro USB 3.0 connector it went away.

[Trixanity]

11 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

you can get a 256gb mirco sd card and there are a few 128gb phone at least. 64gb isnt really enough. 

While microSD cards and eMMC are similar in many ways, they aren't the same. Samsung's site say they can produce 256 GB eMMC but they haven't actually got a product listed. Only 128 GB. And 128 GB is probably still fairly expensive. 256 definitely would be.

OnePlus probably didn't want to put up a price that would scare off consumers.

What they should have done was gone ahead with the 64 GB of internal storage and added a microSD slot. They go up to 2 TB (theoretically speaking). Everyone would have been happy.

[Jumper118]

18 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

While microSD cards and eMMC are similar in many ways, they aren't the same. Samsung's site say they can produce 256 GB eMMC but they haven't actually got a product listed. Only 128 GB. And 128 GB is probably still fairly expensive. 256 definitely would be.

OnePlus probably didn't want to put up a price that would scare off consumers.

What they should have done was gone ahead with the 64 GB of internal storage and added a microSD slot. They go up to 2 TB (theoretically speaking). Everyone would have been happy.

Yes a micro sd  card slot or two would be fine 

[LAwLz]

Looks like a really solid device.

 

Good stuff:

It's cheap. It's actually cheaper than the 64GB OnePlus 2 at launch here in Sweden (although the difference is only like 20 dollars).

Great CPU and GPU.

The body looks really nice and solid. Still not a fan of aluminum unibodies for practical reasons, but they do feel nice in the hand, and people like that.

64GB UFS 2.0 should be standard in all phones. Two massive thumbs up to OnePlus for that. -

Nice to see more phones with USB type C connectors.

Very nice version of Android. I might even go as far as to say I prefer it over stock Android.

Finger print scanner seems very quick and accurate according to MKBHD. I wouldn't use it, but at least it seems very good for the people who want to use it.

That quick charging is insanely fast. I wonder how the battery will hold up being charged so quickly.

 

 

Bad stuff:

No microSD. I think it is less of an issue since it has 64GB of memory, but it would still be nice to have seen them add a microSD slot. I would rather have that than have two SIM slots.

Camera bump. Just fill the rest with battery dammit. I would take that trade-off any day.

Smaller battery. See above.

Smaller camera sensor. Not sure why they did this. I think that companies like Samsung got the right idea. Phone cameras' weakness are in low light scenarios. Sacrifice some resolution for larger pixels is the right way to go. The S7 got ~25% larger pixels, plus a wider aperture. The OP3 won't stand a chance.

Pentile display. With a 5.5" display and 1920x1080 resolution, pentile is not a good idea. It might look fine, but that will be pretty low PPI for blue and red content. It will be sub "retina" for sure.

 

 

Not sure:

I am very skeptical about the display. So far I have only seen one company do AMOLED well, and that's Samsung. The rest seems to be all over the place when it comes to color accurate and other metrics.

[Doobeedoo]

Looks solid. UFS and AMOLED is great. Though PenTile ?

[tsk]

5 hours ago, Jumper118 said:

why is there no 256gb option? 

Because you are going to embrace the cloud like mother google tells you son.

When my Nexus 5 dies I might buy this phone, of course waiting to see what the next Nexus looks likes first.

[Mew]

5 hours ago, LAwLz said:

I am very skeptical about the display. So far I have only seen one company do AMOLED well, and that's Samsung. The rest seems to be all over the place when it comes to color accurate and other metrics.

I'd say the only one is Apple with their Apple Watch because even Samsung uses an inaccurate color profile by default. 

[dizmo]

Ehhh...torn. I wish it was thicker with more battery. I'm also surprised no one's ranting about how they're copying Apple (bottom), Samsung (camera housing) or HTC (overall design)...but wait, they're not Samsung, and it's cheap, so we'll leave them alone. /s

 

There are a few things that etched this off my list. Small battery, pentile display, no expandable storage. I can forgive the last point, not the other two.

Rapid charging is great. It can help a lot. But, that's if you're near an outlet. So. Doesn't work for those who are out and about.

Maybe you'll get my money next year, OnePlus. This year it's going to someone else.

 

11 hours ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

6GB of RAM in a fucking smartphone. "Because we know it will look good on a spec sheet while in reality about 3.5GB stays unused no matter what."

Well, we'll never see it utilized if it's not there. One has got to come before the other. Either the need, or the feature. Stop bitching.

 

8 hours ago, Jumper118 said:

you can get a 256gb mirco sd card and there are a few 128gb phone at least. 64gb isnt really enough. 

It's more than enough for a majority of consumers. Which is what matters. If you're in the niche market that needs more, there are other devices.

[Jumper118]

21 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Ehhh...torn. I wish it was thicker with more battery. I'm also surprised no one's ranting about how they're copying Apple (bottom), Samsung (camera housing) or HTC (overall design)...but wait, they're not Samsung, and it's cheap, so we'll leave them alone. /s

 

There are a few things that etched this off my list. Small battery, pentile display, no expandable storage. I can forgive the last point, not the other two.

Rapid charging is great. It can help a lot. But, that's if you're near an outlet. So. Doesn't work for those who are out and about.

Maybe you'll get my money next year, OnePlus. This year it's going to someone else.

 

Well, we'll never see it utilized if it's not there. One has got to come before the other. Either the need, or the feature. Stop bitching.

 

It's more than enough for a majority of consumers. Which is what matters. If you're in the niche market that needs more, there are other devices.

loads of people run out of space on there phones all the time. even apple have a 128gb version of iphone and they are complete dick holes. 

[MrDynamicMan]

Well, thats certainly not the most original body.

 

im waiting for the new nexus before I jump.

[ShadowCaptain]

It is almost perfect, but lack of micro sd annoys me a lot

 

Considering the Mi5 instead... 100% torn now

[shdowhunt60]

Still waiting for the next generation of Nexus phones.

[Trixanity]

12 hours ago, LAwLz said:

I am very skeptical about the display. So far I have only seen one company do AMOLED well, and that's Samsung. The rest seems to be all over the place when it comes to color accurate and other metrics.

Samsung also uses pentile displays on the majority of their devices. It's like they've given up on RGB. The last Galaxy S that had RGB was S2 and the last Note was Note 4 (if my memory is correct). I'm guessing it's hard to produce a good AMOLED RGB display while keeping the display quality up and the yields up. 

 

Pentile has evolved over the years as they've spend tons on R&D to solve the pentile issues (well, more like mask them) as it is a Samsung invention (patented too I'm sure) after all and one that gives them excellent production capabilities. They changed the shape and placement of sub pixels to hide the detrimental effects of pentile. The newest displays utilize diamond shaped pixels for instance. I think that started on the S5 or S6.

 

From what I understand, it still causes issues but the innovations along with increased resolution (and therefore pixel density) really helps a lot, yet there is as far as I know still noticeable effects of pentile (albeit less and less as it progresses).