AMD Computex 2016 - Polaris and Zen Revealed

[AlTech]

9 hours ago, givingtnt said:

WAIT THE 480 is 200$ ???

Before AIBs yes.

9 hours ago, 8uhbbhu8 said:

OMG A high end card I can actually afford living in Canada!!!!! YES!!!!!!!

High end performance at a price I can actually afford .

 

9 hours ago, Drunk_Klaus said:

they showed 2 games side by side 1080 vs crossfire 480, I could clearly tell the 1080 was higher graphics settings and they advertised it as higher fps for their cards

Well what did you want them to do? Do an Apple's to Apple's comparison? They would have lost.

 

9 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Did he just say "the goal of bringing console-class gaming to PC"?

These guys who are "vice president" or whatever, talk out of their Ass since most don't have a clue about PCs and technology.

 

This guy doesn't know much about PCs or Consoles.

[Starelementpoke]

1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said:

 

These guys who are "vice president" or whatever, talk out of their Ass since most don't have a clue about PCs and technology.

 

This guy doesn't know much about PCs or Consoles.

He was talking about bringing the game library and support, not the performance.

[MoonSpot]

17 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

so basically a crossfire setup was only at 50% while running a game ?

Not quite.  The pitch that AMD made was more like 2 RX480s in CF outperformed the 1080 in FPS.

GPU utilization of the 1080 was 98%, while the CF RX480s were just north of 51%.

The 1080 is $700, while 2 480 is < $500

 

The side to side videos they were showing of both RX 480 in CF and the 1080 playing ashes does not appear to be the same, fairly obviously at that.  Whether it was because of dishonest settings or each parties GFX/software technologies is something that will be answered when 3rd parties do their reviews.

[Jacktastic-Mofo]

Holy fuck guys, calm down and wait for the benchmarks before you end up over hyping this card and it turns out to not be that impressive.

[Coaxialgamer]

1 minute ago, MoonSpot said:

Not quite.  The pitch that AMD made was more like 2 RX480s in CF were outperformed the 1080 in FPS.

GPU utilization of the 1080 was 98%, while the CF RX480s were just north of 50%.

The 1080 is $700, while 2 480 is < $500

 

The side to side videos they were showing of both RX 480 in CF and the 1080 playing ashes does not appear to be the same, fairly obviously at that.  Whether it was because of dishonest settings or each parties GFX/software technologies is something that will be answered when 3rd parties do their reviews.

so basically terrible scaling + strange shenanigans when it comes to settings ?

[Starelementpoke]

1 minute ago, Coaxialgamer said:

so basically terrible scaling + strange shenanigans when it comes to settings ?

Yes, but not 100% if shenanigans were planned or not.

[Kobz360]

1 hour ago, zMeul said:

because you can't run the game in off-line ?!?!

 

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this is supposedly AMD's run

• 2x RX480: http://ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/personas/b0db0294-8cab-4399-8815-f956a670b68f/match-details/0561a980-78ce-4e24-a7c3-2749a8e33aac
• GTX1080 http://ashesofthesingularity.com/metaverse#/personas/b0db0294-8cab-4399-8815-f956a670b68f/match-details/d80e73ae-e7ed-46e9-9b73-551276ac8a16

check the Terrain Shading Samples (basically Tessellation) for each run:

• RX480 - 8mil
• GTX1080 - 16mil

AMD still has problems with tessellation in their own fucking game 

?? You must've been looking at two different benches because on the RadeonDemo profile, there's a bench of the 480s and the 1080 on crazy 1440p with the exact same (16 million) Terrain Shading Samples. Seems like you weren't looking hard enough. It's in the other thread (which you're commenting in) so I assumed you'd have seen it. 

 

 

[MoonSpot]

31 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

so basically terrible scaling + strange shenanigans when it comes to settings ?

Basically VR able GPU for normal people in the mid range market for $200.  End user saves $500 and makes a mortgage payment instead.  If all claims made be true then all that's needed is a VR headset (aka fancy pants console) to also be priced reasonably and then VR will have a shot at making it.

[Notional]

Very interesting card. If you put a watercooling block on it, it will be FuryX sized single slot. Hope Vega will be a small card too, with water cooling or something.

[Briggsy]

7 hours ago, zMeul said:

if nVidia releases the GTX1060, with a reasonable price point, it will fuck with AMD's RX480 really bad

especially considering the $199 price point is for the 4GB 480. If AMD/AIB's charge $250 for the 8GB version, Nvidia should have no problem squeezing a 1060 in there.

[LeStringMan]

10 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

especially considering the $199 price point is for the 4GB 480. If AMD/AIB's charge $250 for the 8GB version, Nvidia should have no problem squeezing a 1060 in there.

well there are several leaks indicating the 1060 will have ~1280 stream processors, and either 4 or 8gb of ram on a 256 bit bus, assuming it runs at 1070 clock speeds that would put it at around 4 Tflops, inno3d also hinted that its between 970 and 980 performance, of course this is all speculation at this point, but it will be very interesting to see nVidia's response to the RX 480.

[zMeul]

1 hour ago, Kobz360 said:

You must've been looking at two different benches

I might've missed it but I can't find the benches with those exact numbers AMD showered on stage

[Kobz360]

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

I might've missed it but I can't find the benches with those exact numbers AMD showered on stage

Yeah nobody's been able to find them. Both the 480 and the 1080s numbers were overstated in the stream, but it is likely they were done on a different account so who knows

[zMeul]

Just now, Kobz360 said:

Yeah nobody's been able to find them. Both the 480 and the 1080s numbers were overstated in the stream, but it is likely they were done on a different account so who knows

I have said in a previous post that you can run the game in off-line

and I'm betting AMD did it that way because they messed with the settings, or .. they pulled the results out of their collective asses

[givingtnt]

4 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

Same as the 280 and a little below the 380...

yeah, now that im reminded of that its not that bad.

but I mostly though about 200$ cad first, not 200$ usd...

[Kobz360]

1 hour ago, zMeul said:

I have said in a previous post that you can run the game in off-line

and I'm betting AMD did it that way because they messed with the settings, or .. they pulled the results out of their collective asses

Pretty strong claims you got there man, let's just wait and see when the card launches. I doubt AMD screwed around with the settings because if they're later proven to be way off, it'll be a massive PR disaster. But once again, we'll see soon. 

[DragonTamer1]

I've been looking at making the family system in the living room VR capable for a while now but it's hard to justify spending over $1000 to make it VR ready. Now I it will make it easier to upgrade the system for VR. Even if I don't choose the 480 (most likely will) a lot of other cards should come down in price. My family system is using NVidia right now which I'm kind of hesitant to get rid of because of shadow play but I was the only one using it anyway and my personal rig has a 760.

 

I'm going to wait until we hear more from reviewers before I make a decision though. I'm not going to run out launch day and buy it.

[goodtofufriday]

21 minutes ago, Kobz360 said:

Pretty strong claims you got there man, let's just wait and see when the card launches. I doubt AMD screwed around with the settings because if they're later proven to be way off, it'll be a massive PR disaster. But once again, we'll see soon. 

 

1 hour ago, zMeul said:

I have said in a previous post that you can run the game in off-line

and I'm betting AMD did it that way because they messed with the settings, or .. they pulled the results out of their collective asses

 

Would it not be found under  67DF:C7 ?

[Kobz360]

3 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

 

 

Would it not be found under  67DF:C7 ?

It already has been found (refer to earlier post). The results, while not the same as what was shown I'm the live stream, show a similar performance link between the 2 480s and the 1080. 

[SuperCookie78]

So 5Tflops at $200. That makes a new xbone with 6Tflops at $400 more realistic 

[captain cactus]

9 minutes ago, SuperCookie78 said:

So 5Tflops at $200. That makes a new xbone with 6Tflops at $400 more realistic 

Expect this chip in here, at a reduced cost (these $200 is for the whole PCB, not just the GPU which Microsoft doesn't need). On an APU, of course.

[SuperCookie78]

10 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

Expect this chip in here, at a reduced cost (these $200 is for the whole PCB, not just the GPU which Microsoft doesn't need). On an APU, of course.

Then maybe $499 but its realistic. 

[Clanscorpia]

1 hour ago, SuperCookie78 said:

Then maybe $499 but its realistic. 

That would be pretty sweet

[Clanscorpia]

4 hours ago, givingtnt said:

yeah, now that im reminded of that its not that bad.

but I mostly though about 200$ cad first, not 200$ usd...

If that was true I would die 

[BradH]

is this going to be another 8 core is really 4 scam if it isnt im interested