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After nvidia revealed the new 1080 and 1070 cards, I decided to postpone my build and wait for a 1050 or 1060.

 

However, a friend of mine has been wanting a PC for a while and he's not really ready to wait. He wanted to get a 750Ti or 950, depending on how much money he has left, but I was thinking, when the 1070 comes out next month, will the 970 get a huge price drop? I was thinking that waiting for just a few weeks and getting a possibly cheaper 970 for him would be better. Also, how well will the 970 perform with the i3 - 6100? Should he get a slightly better processor? (He wants Skylake, not the older ones)

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7 minutes ago, Mr.FATE said:

After nvidia revealed the new 1080 and 1070 cards, I decided to postpone my build and wait for a 1050 or 1060.

 

However, a friend of mine has been wanting a PC for a while and he's not really ready to wait. He wanted to get a 750Ti or 950, depending on how much money he has left, but I was thinking, when the 1070 comes out next month, will the 970 get a huge price drop? I was thinking that waiting for just a few weeks and getting a possibly cheaper 970 for him would be better. Also, how well will the 970 perform with the i3 - 6100? Should he get a slightly better processor? (He wants Skylake, not the older ones)

i5 6400 and a 970 is pretty good combination. Wouldn't recommend putting a i3 with anything higher then a 950 or 370.

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You want a card that is VR ready such as the R9 390 or GTX 970 so maybe yo should wait? Since the Polaris card will probably make the prices go down! :D (if not the GTX 1070 does)

1 minute ago, Manage My Cables said:

i5 6400 and a 970 is pretty good combination. Wouldn't recommend putting a i3 with anything higher then a 950 or 370.

That i3 is about the same as a 2n gen i5 is it not? :)

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10 minutes ago, Mr.FATE said:

After nvidia revealed the new 1080 and 1070 cards, I decided to postpone my build and wait for a 1050 or 1060.

 

However, a friend of mine has been wanting a PC for a while and he's not really ready to wait. He wanted to get a 750Ti or 950, depending on how much money he has left, but I was thinking, when the 1070 comes out next month, will the 970 get a huge price drop? I was thinking that waiting for just a few weeks and getting a possibly cheaper 970 for him would be better. Also, how well will the 970 perform with the i3 - 6100? Should he get a slightly better processor? (He wants Skylake, not the older ones)

You should try your luck at a second hand 960 or R9 380 / 280x rather than a 970. I doubt it'll drop that much, even on the used market, to the point of a 950.

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15 minutes ago, Mr.FATE said:

After nvidia revealed the new 1080 and 1070 cards, I decided to postpone my build and wait for a 1050 or 1060.

 

However, a friend of mine has been wanting a PC for a while and he's not really ready to wait. He wanted to get a 750Ti or 950, depending on how much money he has left, but I was thinking, when the 1070 comes out next month, will the 970 get a huge price drop? I was thinking that waiting for just a few weeks and getting a possibly cheaper 970 for him would be better. Also, how well will the 970 perform with the i3 - 6100? Should he get a slightly better processor? (He wants Skylake, not the older ones)

It wont get that big of a price drop. At least in my country right now (second hand market only), the 750Ti goes for about 1/3 the price of a 970, 950 goes for about half, while the 770 goes for about 2/3 the price of 970. I expected that 970 will drop to around 770 price right now, and 950, 750Ti will only drop a tiny bit. 

IMO, buying a 750Ti or 950 is a pretty good deal, since those card's price wont drop as much as a 970 so it will have a better resell value should you/your friend decided to upgrade to a 1070 or so. ANd even if you dont plan to resell it, you can always use a 750Ti or 950 as dedicated PhysX card

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I would probably go with an AMD card, or as others have suggested, a used card. Don't get the 750Ti, there are far better cards than that.

What's he playing? Or using the system for? That will help immensely. If he's just into easy to power games, he might not need something powerful.

Generally, cards don't drop that much in price. If they do it's just to clear out old stock, so it would depend on what the stores in your country stock. Remember, AMD and Nvidia simply set MSRP pricing, not what the retailer actually has to charge.

 

15 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

You want a card that is VR ready such as the R9 390 or GTX 970 so maybe yo should wait? Since the Polaris card will probably make the prices go down! :D (if not the GTX 1070 does)

That i3 is about the same as a 2n gen i5 is it not? :)

Why? If he can't scrape the money together for a medium tier rig, he likely can't afford VR.

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4 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I would probably go with an AMD card, or as others have suggested, a used card. Don't get the 750Ti, there are far better cards than that.

What's he playing? Or using the system for? That will help immensely. If he's just into easy to power games, he might not need something powerful.

Generally, cards don't drop that much in price. If they do it's just to clear out old stock, so it would depend on what the stores in your country stock. Remember, AMD and Nvidia simply set MSRP pricing, not what the retailer actually has to charge.

 

Why? If he can't scrape the money together for a medium tier rig, he likely can't afford VR.

All you need for VR is a GTX 970, R9 390 or R9 480? :D (VR is soon more affordable if AMD is to be trusted...)

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5 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

All you need for VR is a GTX 970, R9 390 or R9 480? :D (VR is soon more affordable if AMD is to be trusted...)

Uhh...and the VR kit itself. Which is almost the cost of the PC the guy is considering building for Oculus, or double it for Vive.

You also shouldn't get the bare minimum for VR. It'll only create tons of issues.

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PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Uhh...and the VR kit itself. Which is almost the cost of the PC the guy is considering building for Oculus, or double it for Vive.

You also shouldn't get the bare minimum for VR. It'll only create tons of issues.

Well I guess it may or may not depends on the VR game! But I feel that regular games will go over to use VR games as a average amount of GPU requirement soon... :( (mostly AAA titles but yeah...)

Zen-III-X12-5900X (Gaming PC)

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.2/4.2GHz, 35,3MB cache (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X(ECO mode), 12-cores, 24-threads, 4.5/4.8GHz, 70.5MB cache (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / Display: HP 24" L2445w (64Hz OC) 1920x1200 / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT DUAL OC RDNA2 32CUs @2.6GHz 10.6 TFLOPS (T.S.M.C. 7nm FinFET) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASRock B450M Pro4, Socket-AM4 / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W / RAM A2 & B2: DDR4-3600MHz CL16-18-8-19-37-1T "SK Hynix 8Gbit CJR" (2x16GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Storage 5: Kingston A2000 1TB M.2 NVME SSD / Wi-fi & Bluetooth: ASUS PCE-AC55BT Wireless Adapter (Intel)

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R20 score MC: 3529cb | R20 score SC: 506cb

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Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
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Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E
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He's not interested in VR. Basically games like H1Z1, The Culling, GTA 5 (high settings not required), Battlefield 4 etc. He won't be doing any editing, just playing a few games that he likes. Also, getting it used is not an option for us unfortunately. How good are the AMD cards? I've seen numerous people complain that they heat up a lot more than nvidia's. Since we are from India, where its hot most of the time, I want the coolest possible option. Thanka for the suggestions so far! :)

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2 hours ago, Mr.FATE said:

After nvidia revealed the new 1080 and 1070 cards, I decided to postpone my build and wait for a 1050 or 1060.

 

However, a friend of mine has been wanting a PC for a while and he's not really ready to wait. He wanted to get a 750Ti or 950, depending on how much money he has left, but I was thinking, when the 1070 comes out next month, will the 970 get a huge price drop? I was thinking that waiting for just a few weeks and getting a possibly cheaper 970 for him would be better. Also, how well will the 970 perform with the i3 - 6100? Should he get a slightly better processor? (He wants Skylake, not the older ones)

I use my computer's Intel Core i3-6100 with a GTX 960. It's a good 1080p card, and it eats Fallout 4 and Battlefield 4 for lunch on high settings. The GTX 950, and GTX 750 Ti are pretty good matches, as well, if you want to spend less money for decent performance. There's no confirmation on when the 1060 is getting released, so you shouldn't start waiting unless you're happy with what you are currently using for the time being.

 

You could also pair it with a GTX 970. Many games should perform just fine, as Skylake cores are pretty awesome. More games that demand more multi-core performance are being released, so a bottleneck (I said the B-word) may be present when playing these games, which can reduce the performance down to as if you had a GTX 950. At that point, it can become uneconomical to pair a higher-end GTX 970 with only a mid-ranged i3-6100. For the best overall performance, I recommend getting the $200 3.2 GHz i5-6500 or $220 3.3 GHz i5-6600.

 

As for a price drop, they'll just sell them at MSRP until they're out of stock. You'll need to look at the used/secondhand market for price drops which will very likely happen pretty quickly.

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