Samsung M.2 950 Pro: Is it worth it?

[iPC]

Hi, I was originally going to go with a 250 gb 850 EVO as my boot drive, but I was wondering if you get a significantly faster boot time with the 256 gb 950 PRO. Thank you!

[Bajantechnician]

1 hour ago, iPC said:

Hi, I was originally going to go with a 250 gb 850 EVO as my boot drive, but I was wondering if you get a significantly faster boot time with the 256 gb 950 PRO. Thank you!

pice to performance, no

performance, yes

[darealsoulless]

3 minutes ago, iPC said:

Hi, I was originally going to go with a 250 gb 850 EVO as my boot drive, but I was wondering if you get a significantly faster boot time with the 256 gb 950 PRO. Thank you!

950P definitely should be faster if it's an M.2 drive, because SATA has I believe about a 600Mb/s bandwidth cap, whereas M.2 is higher than that.

[iPC]

2 minutes ago, Bajantechnician said:

pice to performance, no

performance, yes

This is my build so far. Link; http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YDQh6h What things do you think could be rearranged to fit in the 950 pro at around 1,900$ ?

[mikat]

No it's not going to boot that much faster with the 950 pro compared to the 850 evo

[typographie]

http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed/4

Here's some benchmarks showing Windows 8 boot times, as well as a few application loading benchmarks, between the 950 Pro, 850 EVO, and a few others.

 

Note that while the 950 Pro shows up on synthetic benchmarks much faster an 850 EVO, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to translate into an obvious real-world difference you can see and feel.

[Senzelian]

5 minutes ago, GR1MES said:

950P definitely should be faster if it's an M.2 drive, because SATA has I believe about a 600Mb/s bandwidth cap, whereas M.2 is higher than that.

M.2 is just the formfactor and uses either the PCI-e or SATA interface to communicate with the chipset.

So a M.2 SATA drive isn't going to be faster than a normal 2.5'' SATA drive, but if it is connected over the PCI-e interface, it can go significantly faster.

 

The 950 Pro is a PCI-e M.2 SSD (or SSM - Solid State Module), which can achieve much higher read and write speeds than any SATA drive, but that doesn't mean it'll automatically boot faster than a normal 2.5'' SATA SSD.

[Senzelian]

Double-post...

Edited April 24, 2016 by Senzelian

[Bajantechnician]

4 hours ago, Senzelian said:

M.2 is just the formfactor and uses either the PCI-e or SATA interface to communicate with the chipset.

So a M.2 SATA drive isn't going to be faster than a normal 2.5'' SATA drive, but if it is connected over the PCI-e interface, it can go significantly faster.

 

The 950 Pro is a PCI-e M.2 SSD (or SSM - Solid State Module), which can achieve much higher read and write speeds than any SATA drive, but that doesn't mean it'll automatically boot faster than a normal 2.5'' SATA SSD.

 

4 hours ago, typographie said:

http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed/4

Here's some benchmarks showing Windows 8 boot times, as well as a few application loading benchmarks, between the 950 Pro, 850 EVO, and a few others.

 

Note that while the 950 Pro shows up on synthetic benchmarks much faster an 850 EVO, that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to translate into an obvious real-world difference you can see and feel.

 

4 hours ago, mikat said:

No it's not going to boot that much faster with the 950 pro compared to the 850 evo

m.2 is much faster i have it

[DocSwag]

I currently don't believe the m.2 or pcie ssds are worth it over something like an 850 evo. Why? Take a look at these benchmarks:

http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed/4

 

There's like no difference. Nadda. You're only gonna see a difference in large file transfers and stuff for like a server. Therefore, I currently don't recommend any pcie drives to anyone, unless they will use it for like a home server or something.

[mikat]

6 hours ago, Bajantechnician said:

 

 

m.2 is much faster i have it

in boot times too?

[Senzelian]

9 hours ago, Bajantechnician said:

m.2 is much faster i have it

Again, M.2 is just a formfactor.

[Bajantechnician]

7 hours ago, mikat said:

in boot times too?

 

12 hours ago, DocSwag said:

I currently don't believe the m.2 or pcie ssds are worth it over something like an 850 evo. Why? Take a look at these benchmarks:

http://techreport.com/review/29221/samsung-950-pro-512gb-ssd-reviewed/4

 

There's like no difference. Nadda. You're only gonna see a difference in large file transfers and stuff for like a server. Therefore, I currently don't recommend any pcie drives to anyone, unless they will use it for like a home server or something.

 

4 hours ago, Senzelian said:

Again, M.2 is just a formfactor.

So 

512 gb m.2 Samsung pro 950=3 secound boot

1tb samung pro 950 data ssd= 5-6 secpunds.

 

So, again

Price to performance, no

Performance, yes

[Unhelpful]

The boot-time is damn near the same. It shines in other applications. I don't really think it's worth it unless you want to go for the best of the best (of consumer hardware)

[DocSwag]

1 hour ago, Bajantechnician said:

 

 

So 

512 gb m.2 Samsung pro 950=3 secound boot

1tb samung pro 950 data ssd= 5-6 secpunds.

 

So, again

Price to performance, no

Performance, yes

Not sure what you are talking about.... Plus there isn't even a 1tb 950 pro.

And the boot times aren't 3 seconds. It's like 15.

[Unhelpful]

33 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

And the boot times aren't 3 seconds. It's like 15.

You can shave it down to 6-8. I also suspect he meant 1tb 850 pro.

[NumLock21]

Get 850 evo. 

[Senzelian]

4 hours ago, Bajantechnician said:

 

 

So 

512 gb m.2 Samsung pro 950=3 secound boot

1tb samung pro 950 data ssd= 5-6 secpunds.

 

So, again

Price to performance, no

Performance, yes

And again, M.2 is just a form factor. The PCI-e interface and NVMe protocol are what makes the 950 Pro so quick.
But still, 3 seconds aren't worth anything.

[NumLock21]

950 Pro isn't worth it for normal everyday use, you'll be disappointed with its performance and the money you've wasted on it. 950 Pro booting up is similar to 850 in RAPID mode, nothing too special.

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 hour ago, Senzelian said:

And again, M.2 is just a form factor. The PCI-e interface and NVMe protocol are what makes the 950 Pro so quick.
But still, 3 seconds aren't worth anything.

It's actually annoying me big time how people need to learn that they are NVMe drives not m.2 as you can get sata m.2 drives which cap out at around 550MB/s.

[Senzelian]

15 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

It's actually annoying me big time how people need to learn that they are NVMe drives not m.2 as you can get sata m.2 drives which cap out at around 550MB/s.

Wait wait wait...

M.2 is just the formfactor.
SATA and PCI-e are the interfaces.
AHCI and NVMe are the protocols.

A 2.5'' AHCI PCI-e drive can be faster than a M.2 NVMe SATA drive, but the NVMe drive can still be better when it comes to random read and writes.

NVMe has little to no impact on the sequential read and write performance of a drive.But it improves the random read and write performance drastically and therefor also the IOPS.

 

The NVMe protocol isn't an indicator for a fast drive and neither is PCI-e or M.2.

[typographie]

On 4/25/2016 at 8:47 PM, Bajantechnician said:

m.2 is much faster i have it

Do you have a SATA drive as well that you can run direct comparisons on?

 

Did you look at the benchmarks I linked?  

[Bajantechnician]

3 hours ago, typographie said:

Do you have a SATA drive as well that you can run direct comparisons on?

 

Did you look at the benchmarks I linked?  

yes, i do