GTX 960 $65 cheaper than R9 380, worth it?

[iM8Pizza]

The title says it all, is it worth it?

It's the one by Zotac

[mikat]

what prices are we looking at?

can you give absolute numbers instead of relative ones?

[Hodor]

Yes. $65 extra for a 380 is completely unreasonable.

[don_svetlio]

2GB 960? Hell no
4GB 960? Possibly as long as you are going to upgrade within a year or two since DX12 does not favor the 960 at all.

Also, give us prices on all 380s and 960s. If buying from the US there are 380s for 170$

[Moonzy]

if they have the same vram, maybe its worth it if you dont play the latest games

 

since 380 outperforms the 960 in DX12 titles by a significant margin

and the 380 outperforms the 960 more often than not in dx11 titles

 

but if your processor isnt that strong is near being a bottleneck, the 960 will be better for you as AMD cards have higher cpu overhead

 

but if its $65 cheaper for the same amount of vram

i'd say grab it lol

[sapphirethunder]

Give us more information.

 

VRAM amount

exact prices

the R9 380's model and manufacturer (for example, Asus Strix or Sapphire Nitro)

[iM8Pizza]

@mikat@Hodor@huilun02 

4 hours ago, don_svetlio said:

2GB 960? Hell no
4GB 960? Possibly as long as you are going to upgrade within a year or two since DX12 does not favor the 960 at all.

Also, give us prices on all 380s and 960s. If buying from the US there are 380s for 170$

 

3 hours ago, Moonzy said:

if they have the same vram, maybe its worth it if you dont play the latest games

 

since 380 outperforms the 960 in DX12 titles by a significant margin

and the 380 outperforms the 960 more often than not in dx11 titles

 

but if your processor isnt that strong is near being a bottleneck, the 960 will be better for you as AMD cards have higher cpu overhead

 

but if its $65 cheaper for the same amount of vram

i'd say grab it lol

59 minutes ago, sapphirethunder said:

Give us more information.

 

VRAM amount

exact prices

the R9 380's model and manufacturer (for example, Asus Strix or Sapphire Nitro)

 here's the web I'm looking at (prices are crazy here so keep that in mind)

http://sentracomputer.com/product.php?category=4&subcat=&sort=3&offset=50

as I'm writing this, $1 (US)= Rp13k (IDR)

 

the lowest priced R9 380 there is the MSI AMD Radeon R9 380 2GDST OC

 

and the one GTX 960 I was referring to is the Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB

 

[iM8Pizza]

4 hours ago, Moonzy said:

if they have the same vram, maybe its worth it if you dont play the latest games

 

since 380 outperforms the 960 in DX12 titles by a significant margin

and the 380 outperforms the 960 more often than not in dx11 titles

 

but if your processor isnt that strong is near being a bottleneck, the 960 will be better for you as AMD cards have higher cpu overhead

 

but if its $65 cheaper for the same amount of vram

i'd say grab it lol

I'm currently using the i5-3330, and fyi this card is not for me, it's for a friend of mine who's going to join dark side of gaming *cough* console *cough*, so I'm trying to convince him with something that will fit (near) the price of a console

[don_svetlio]

3 minutes ago, iM8Pizza said:

@mikat@Hodor@huilun02 

 

 here's the web I'm looking at (prices are crazy here so keep that in mind)

http://sentracomputer.com/product.php?category=4&subcat=&sort=3&offset=50

as I'm writing this, $1 (US)= Rp13k (IDR)

 

the lowest priced R9 380 there is the MSI AMD Radeon R9 380 2GDST OC

 

and the one GTX 960 I was referring to is the Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB

 

2GB cards aren't worth the money. 4GB or don't bother

[iM8Pizza]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

2GB cards aren't worth the money. 4GB or don't bother

so..... an R7 370 with 4gb is better....?

[don_svetlio]

Just now, iM8Pizza said:

so..... an R7 370 with 4gb is better....?

No. R9 380 or 960 4GB. the 370 is substantially weaker.

[Moonzy]

8 minutes ago, iM8Pizza said:

MSI AMD Radeon R9 380 2GDST OC

Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB

add a few bucks and get a 4gb version, 2gb of vram isnt enough for games these days

5 minutes ago, iM8Pizza said:

I'm currently using the i5-3330, and fyi this card is not for me, it's for a friend of mine who's going to join dark side of gaming *cough* console *cough*, so I'm trying to convince him with something that will fit (near) the price of a console

well that's the rest of the pc's spec like?

in pcpartpicker format if you will

[iM8Pizza]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

No. R9 380 or 960 4GB. the 370 is substantially weaker.

b-but.... the R9 380 with 4gb is $120 more... i-is it worth it? ._.

1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

add a few bucks and get a 4gb version, 2gb of vram isnt enough for games these days

well that's the rest of the pc's spec like?

in pcpartpicker format if you will

again, this is a build suggestion for my friend, and I can't really go with pcpartpicker format since the price in Indonesia and US is waaaaaaaay.... different (here is more expensive)

[iM8Pizza]

6 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

No. R9 380 or 960 4GB. the 370 is substantially weaker.

oh wait, I found an R9 380X 4gb by HIS, for $70 more, is it better?

[don_svetlio]

Just now, iM8Pizza said:

b-but.... the R9 380 with 4gb is $120 more... i-is it worth it? ._.

again, this is a build suggestion for my friend, and I can't really go with pcpartpicker format since the price in Indonesia and US is waaaaaaaay.... different (here is more expensive)

the R9 380 is 15% ahead of the 960 in DX11 and 30-40% ahead in DX12. Your call.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, iM8Pizza said:

oh wait, I found an R9 380X 4gb by HIS, for $70 more, is it better?

380X is 25% above a 960 in DX11 and 50-55% above it in DX12. YES, TAKE IT

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, iM8Pizza said:

b-but.... the R9 380 with 4gb is $120 more... i-is it worth it? ._.

if its not just a 10% bump then i guess 2gb vram is fine...?

you'll have to turn down game effects and what not though

1 minute ago, iM8Pizza said:

again, this is a build suggestion for my friend, and I can't really go with pcpartpicker format since the price in Indonesia and US is waaaaaaaay.... different (here is more expensive)

i just wanna look at the rest of the build, not the price lol

 

price in my place aint that great either (your neighbour)

[iM8Pizza]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

380X is 25% above a 960 in DX11 and 50-55% above it in DX12. YES, TAKE IT

thanks, it solves the GPU problem as of now

[don_svetlio]

Just now, Moonzy said:

if its not just a 10% bump then i guess 2gb vram is fine...?

you'll have to turn down game effects and what not though

i just wanna look at the rest of the build, not the price lol

 

price in my place aint that great either (your neighbour)

He found a 380X for a good price

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, don_svetlio said:

He found a 380X for a good price

yea i just saw lol

 

380X 4gb vram for $70 more than the 960 2gb i guess?

if the 380 4gb is $120 more than the 960 2gb...

 

by all means GRAB THE 380X )o)

[sapphirethunder]

Just now, huilun02 said:

Ok so OP is in

Indonesia

 

How about the HIS R9 380 ICEQ X2 OC 4GB for Rp 2,879,000?

(scroll down to find it)

OP already found it.

[iM8Pizza]

@Moonzy @don_svetlio

okay so... my friend is currently using the following things:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+

some random 2gb RAM

NVIDIA GT640

 

and that's about it.... PSU is well.... you know what you'll expect

 

so, will it bottleneck the GPU and what parts can be saved (definitely the RAM but I don't really know what version of DDR that is, anyone know what DDR that CPU will be using? )

[don_svetlio]

Just now, iM8Pizza said:

@Moonzy @don_svetlio

okay so... my friend is currently using the following things:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+

some random 2gb RAM

NVIDIA GT640

 

and that's about it.... PSU is well.... you know what you'll expect

 

so, will it bottleneck the GPU and what parts can be saved (definitely the RAM but I don't really know what version of DDR that is, anyone know what DDR that CPU will be using? )

That's DDR2 - he needs to replace it all. None of it is usable nowadays.

[iM8Pizza]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

That's DDR2 - he needs to replace it all. None of it is usable nowadays.

well shush, ok... I'll  try to pick the lowest priced (but still maintaning performance) parts I can

 

[Moonzy]

Just now, iM8Pizza said:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+

erk... im afraid this might be a bottleneck?

nvidia's gpu have less cpu overhead, so might wanna reconsider (ask @don_svetlio)

thats why i wanted to know your system spec

1 minute ago, iM8Pizza said:

some random 2gb RAM

get another 4 gb to make it 6gb atleast

2 minutes ago, iM8Pizza said:

PSU is well.... you know what you'll expect

best you mention it so we know whether it'll support the 380x, its significantly more power hungry than the 960