GTX 960 $65 cheaper than R9 380, worth it?

[iM8Pizza]

3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

8GB is really preferred - try used RAM - it's VERY hard to break RAM so buying used is safe

If only there's a used DDR4 RAM being sold here.... but well, the 8gb one is just about $20 so yeah not really of a huge deal

[Moonzy]

Just now, iM8Pizza said:

If only there's a used DDR4 RAM being sold here.... but well, the 8gb one is just about $20 so yeah not really of a huge deal

i would sell you my 2x4gb kit that im tossing aside `-`

but you're too far away even though we're neighbours lol

[iM8Pizza]

Just now, Moonzy said:

i would sell you my 2x4gb kit that im tossing aside `-`

but you're too far away even though we're neighbours lol

malaysia? dude, the shipping cost (and the waiting for it to arrive) itself would probably cost the same as a RAM ._.

[Moonzy]

Just now, iM8Pizza said:

malaysia? dude, the shipping cost (and the waiting for it to arrive) itself would probably cost the same as a RAM ._.

exactly lol

[iM8Pizza]

so the (current) specification would be:

i3 6100 (Rp1.850.000)

ASRock H110M-HDV (Rp1.120.000)

HIS AMD Radeon R9 380X 4GB DDR5 IceQ X Turbo (Rp3.635.000)

Seasonic M12II-520 EVO 520W Modular (Rp1.010.000)

Corsair DDR4 Value Select CMV8GX4M1A2133C15  (Rp670.000)

Total=Rp8.285.000 (which is roughly around $640)

 

is there anything left to be changed? @Moonzy@don_svetlio

 

[Moonzy]

3 minutes ago, iM8Pizza said:

so the (current) specification would be:

i3 6100 (Rp1.850.000)

ASRock H110M-HDV (Rp1.120.000)

HIS AMD Radeon R9 380X 4GB DDR5 IceQ X Turbo (Rp3.635.000)

Seasonic M12II-520 EVO 520W Modular (Rp1.010.000)

Corsair DDR4 Value Select CMV8GX4M1A2133C15  (Rp670.000)

Total=Rp8.285.000 (which is roughly around $640)

 

is there anything left to be changed? @Moonzy@don_svetlio

 

storage?

is his old hard disk sata or pata? lol

and i assume you're using your old case, make sure the motherboard fits

and OS too, you can get it cheap from microsoftsoftwareswap subreddit if you dont have windows 10 (win 10 recommended for skylake)

[iM8Pizza]

1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

storage?

is his old hard disk sata or pata? lol

and i assume you're using your old case, make sure the motherboard fits

and OS too, you can get it cheap from microsoftsoftwareswap subreddit if you dont have windows 10 (win 10 recommended for skylake)

I believe he use SATA (But I don't really know, is there a way to make sure of it? a way to differentiate between the two?* okay I'll just google it)

a ghetto old case ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Pirated Win10 is enough I suppose....

[Moonzy]

1 minute ago, iM8Pizza said:

Pirated Win10 is enough I suppose....

when there's a will, there's a way

ill refrain from commenting further on this lol

 

1 minute ago, iM8Pizza said:

I'll just google it

the connecters are very different, and no motherboard nowadays support PATA as far as im concerned `-`

[othertomperson]

1 hour ago, iM8Pizza said:

so..... an R7 370 with 4gb is better....?

Absolutely not. Ignore don_svetlio, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[sapphirethunder]

2 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

Absolutely not. Ignore don_svetlio, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Actually he does.

 

R7 370 with 4Gb is just as bad mismatch as R9 380 with 2Gb.

R7 370 doesn't have enough performance to properly run stuff which takes over 2Gb

R9 380 has too much performance for it to run 2Gb. Will be hitting the VRAM limits with it. Same goes for GTX 960.

[Moonzy]

2 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

Absolutely not. Ignore don_svetlio, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

don just pointed out that 2gb card doesnt make sense in games nowadays, which is quite accurate

given that some games at 1080p are even exceeding 4gb vram, albeit with mods

[don_svetlio]

3 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

Absolutely not. Ignore don_svetlio, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Stop spreading misinformation please.

[othertomperson]

Just now, sapphirethunder said:

Actually he does.

 

R7 370 with 4Gb is just as bad mismatch as R9 380 with 2Gb.

No. If the price difference is something you don't really care about, then fine. Whatever. However, do not pay appreciably more just for more vram

[don_svetlio]

2 minutes ago, sapphirethunder said:

Actually he does.

 

R7 370 with 4Gb is just as bad mismatch as R9 380 with 2Gb.

R7 370 doesn't have enough performance to properly run stuff which takes over 2Gb

R9 380 has too much performance for it to run 2Gb. Will be hitting the VRAM limits with it. Same goes for GTX 960.

Actually, VRAM usage doesn't depend on the core - the 370 CAN use all 4GB but it's just a substantially weaker core for similar cash so it's worse value. Memory-wise it's fine.

[othertomperson]

5 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Actually, VRAM usage doesn't depend on the core - the 370 CAN use all 4GB but it's just a substantially weaker core for similar cash so it's worse value. Memory-wise it's fine.

You tell me to stop spreading misinformation and then you come out with this bullshit. Do some fucking research before telling people to spend money on gimmicks and snake-oil.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, othertomperson said:

You tell me to stop spreading misinformation and then you come out with this bullshit. Do some fucking research before telling people to spend money on gimmicks and snake-oil.

@D2ultima - A person with a VAST amount more knowledge than you has written a VERY comprehensive guide - either prove it wrong or stop making random statements with ZERO evidence backing your claim

[sapphirethunder]

10 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Actually, VRAM usage doesn't depend on the core - the 370 CAN use all 4GB but it's just a substantially weaker core for similar cash so it's worse value. Memory-wise it's fine.

Yeah, it doesn't, but that's generally the situation. Of course it can use 4Gb, but it's different thing if the game will run well enough at those settings.

Most of the time the graphic settings which R7 370 can run at proper framerates, are still under 2Gb.

And the settings which R9 380 can run, are above 2Gb. (but most of the time still under 3gb)

[othertomperson]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

@D2ultima - A person with a VAST amount more knowledge than you has written a VERY comprehensive guide - either prove it wrong or stop making random statements with ZERO evidence backing your claim

As I have told you about 20 minutes ago (do you have memory problems?) I have read his guide and disagreed with a lot of his assumptions and misunderstandings. I love how you are saying that there is zero evidence of this claim after I posted a link to a benchmark of over 11 different games with both the 960/380 and the 390X/290X with different levels of vram. Watch it, and actually learn something.

 

Just because you didn't bother to look at the evidence I presented, doesn't mean there is no evidence.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, sapphirethunder said:

Yeah, it doesn't, but that's generally the situation. Of course it can use 4Gb, but it's different thing if the game will run at well enough at those settings.

Modding skyrim uses 12GB on a Titan X with ease - 4GB on a 370 is nothing

[sapphirethunder]

4 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Modding skyrim uses 12GB on a Titan X with ease - 4GB on a 370 is nothing

I wouldn't really count modded Skyrim in there. Not only is it already an old game, but mods are usually not all that well optimized in terms of memory usage.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, sapphirethunder said:

I wouldn't really count modded Skyrim in there. Not only is it already an old game, but mods are usually not all that well optimized in terms of memory usage.

Still nice to have tho - better have extra than not enough

[sapphirethunder]

2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

Still nice to have tho - better have extra than not enough

I guess, but 2-3Gb just would make more sense on R7 370. But with current GDDR5 version, it seems to not be possible to properly make 3Gb, instead has to go in increments of 2Gb. Or it is possible but the manufacturers just don't see it as worth it.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, sapphirethunder said:

I guess, but 3Gb just would make more sense on R7 370. But with current GDDR5 version, it seems to not be possible to properly make 3Gb, instead has to go in increments of 2Gb.

The bus is the reason - 256-bit cards can use 1GB/2GB/4GB/8GB only configs

[sapphirethunder]

Just now, don_svetlio said:

The bus is the reason - 256-bit cards can use 1GB/2GB/4GB/8GB only configs

Well that explains it then, if that's how it is.

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, sapphirethunder said:

Well that explains it then, if that's how it is.

128/256/512-bit cards require 1/2/4/8/16 natively
192/384 require 1.5/3/6/12 natively

Anything else is smoke and mirrors such as the 660 Ti 2 over 192 and 970 4 over 224 - those aren't exactly practical