Decent gaming pc for €1000

[DjJehJeh]

Just now, Starelementpoke said:

Does it have an efficiency rating of it?

Like DHelios said, 80+ Bronze, energy efficient

 

Or is it something else you want to know?

[Starelementpoke]

2 minutes ago, DHelios said:

80+ Bronze and Haswell compatible. I'd reuse it.

That doesn´t make it automatically quality.

[Starelementpoke]

Just now, DjJehJeh said:

Like DHelios said, 80+ Bronze, energy efficient

 

Or is it something else you want to know?

Can you give me the full model name? Including the series it´s from?

[DjJehJeh]

4 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

Can you give me the full model name? Including the series it´s from?

I don't really know where to look so I just took pictures of the box ;p

[DHelios]

4 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

That doesn´t make it automatically quality.

It doesn't. We'd need the model number (I'm sure it's listed somewhere on the box) to be able to determine wether or not it's an excellent PSU.

But Antec Earthwatts series + half decent energy efficiency + modern standards compatibility means that at least it's not a an ancient worn-down unit or from a questionable brand. A new PSU is always a better solution and of course we can get much better quality with much better efficiency and possibly even better longevity, but when you're trying to keep the budget in hand I don't think keeping this particular unit would be a sin. It's hard to beat 'free'.

[Starelementpoke]

1 minute ago, DHelios said:

It doesn't. We'd need the model number (I'm sure it's listed somewhere on the box) to be able to determine wether or not it's an excellent PSU.

But Antec Earthwatts series + half decent energy efficiency + modern standards compatibility means that at least it's not a an ancient worn-down unit or from a questionable brand. A new PSU is always a better solution and of course we can get much better quality with much better efficiency and possibly even better longevity, but when you're trying to keep the budget in hand I don't think keeping this particular unit would be a sin. It's hard to beat 'free'.

I´m aware, but there are EarthWatts units that aren´t quite up to par. Just want to make sure this isn´t one of them.

[Starelementpoke]

6 minutes ago, DjJehJeh said:

I don't really know where to look so I just took pictures of the box ;p

It´s good. Checked some reviews, double checked the forum´s tierlists, seems fine. You should be fine with it.

[DjJehJeh]

Just now, Starelementpoke said:

It´s good. Checked some reviews, double checked the forum´s tierlists, seems fine. You should be fine with it.

Alright nice  thanks

[DHelios]

6 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

I´m aware, but there are EarthWatts units that aren´t quite up to par. Just want to make sure this isn´t one of them.

Your diligence is noted and appreciated

[DHelios]

Since we've just saved another 80 bucks, is this the part where we see if we can upgrade the build to a Fractal Define Mini?

[DjJehJeh]

Just now, DHelios said:

Since we've just saved another 80 bucks, is this the part where we see if we can upgrade the build to a Fractal Define Mini?

Fractal Define Mini? What is that? Sorry for the tons of questions and stuff but really don't know much about this

[DHelios]

2 minutes ago, DjJehJeh said:

Fractal Define Mini? What is that? Sorry for the tons of questions and stuff but really don't know much about this

 

http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-mini

 

It's compact, sleek-looking, well-built, comfortable to build in, decently cooled, silent, and allows for plenty of upgrade paths down the road.

[Starelementpoke]

4 minutes ago, DjJehJeh said:

Fractal Define Mini? What is that? Sorry for the tons of questions and stuff but really don't know much about this

 

5 minutes ago, DHelios said:

Since we've just saved another 80 bucks, is this the part where we see if we can upgrade the build to a Fractal Define Mini?

I mean, I´d personally would just put more into a bigger ssd or better cpu or such.

[DjJehJeh]

Just now, DHelios said:

 

http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-mini

 

It's compact, sleek-looking, well-built, comfortable to build in, decently cooled, silent, and allows for plenty of upgrade paths down the road.

Hmm, I don't really mind the noise (my pc now is not anoyingly loud, but i think the one I would built wouldn't be so loud either), I don't really care for looks, Maybe the cooling is nice and the room for upgrades is neat. But if you guys don't think it's really necesary I'd probably just keep the money, or if you guys say it's best to invest the money we got from leaving the psu and investing it in a better cpu than i might do that..

[DHelios]

3 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

I mean, I´d personally would just put more into a bigger ssd or better cpu or such.

Aww, you just had to go and be all reasonable...

Really though, the money freed by taking the PSU out of your suggested build allows for an upgrade to an i5-6600 or 6600K (higher stock clock even without OC), Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD and probably an ASUS H170M PLUS mainboard, all at once. I'd still spend the extra € 25 or so on the better looking, more quiet case with better stock fans...

[DjJehJeh]

1 minute ago, DHelios said:

Aww, you just had to go and be all reasonable...

Really though, the money freed by taking the PSU out of your suggested build allows for an upgrade to an i5-6600 or 6600K (higher stock clock even without OC), Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD and probably an ASUS H170M PLUS mainboard, all at once. I'd still spend the extra € 25 or so on the better looking, more quiet case with better stock fans...

So I am looking to make the changes you said and see how much it will cost. But for tthe ASUS mainboard there is an Asus H170M-plus and an Asus H170M-plus/CSM which one should I pick?

[DHelios]

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/fQJTvK

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/fQJTvK
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/fQJTvK/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€221.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€63.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung  120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€66.38 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€48.65 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  (€323.24 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€92.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €816.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-07 16:35 CEST+0200

 

The price does not include the mainboard. I'd say the ASUS H170M PLUS, the price of which isn't listed on PCPartPicker but goes for about € 110 north of the border. That'd bring the whole build up to about € 925.96, which is close to the price of the initial build posted by @Starelementpoke.

 

I stepped back from my suggestion that the 6600K would fit - It's only about € 10 more than the 6600, but it does not include a stock fan so there'd be extra added cost there.

 

(Edited to change the mainboard recommendation - the one I initially listed took DDR3 instead of DDR4. My bad!)
(Edited again because apparently I can't spell.)

[DjJehJeh]

4 minutes ago, DHelios said:

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/fQJTvK

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/fQJTvK
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/fQJTvK/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€221.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€63.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung  120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€66.38 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€48.65 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  (€323.24 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€92.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €816.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-07 16:35 CEST+0200

 

The price does not include the mainboard. I'd say the ASUS H170M-E D3, which isn't listed on PCPartPicker but goes for about € 100 north of the border. That'd bring the whole build up to about € 915.96, which is close to the price of the initial build posted by @Starelementpoke.

 

I stepped back from my suggestion that the 6600K would fit - It's only about € 10 more than the 6600, but it does not include a stock fan so there'd be extra added cost there.

Okay, I could buy one for just under 100 euro so that's fine, but when I look at the specifications it says it supports DDR3, I don't see DDR4 and my RAM sticks are DDR4? Won't that be a problem?

[DHelios]

2 minutes ago, DjJehJeh said:

Okay, I could buy one for just under 100 euro so that's fine, but when I look at the specifications it says it supports DDR3, I don't see DDR4 and my RAM sticks are DDR4? Won't that be a problem?

Yes, yes it would! I've already updated my post to reflect that issue, but it seems that you read it faster than I could edit it. Glad you're paying attention!

[DjJehJeh]

Just now, DHelios said:

Yes, yes it would! I've already updated my post to reflect that issue, but it seems that you read it faster than I could edit it. Glad you're paying attention!

And the mainboard you suggested now, the  ASUS H170M PLUS, this is listed in the pcpartpicker right? just to make sure I don't select a wrong one or something

[DHelios]

Here's an updated version. I've also messed up the SSD, this one lists the 250GB version as intended... Sorry for the sloppy job! I blame it on trying to look to my colleagues like I'm working whilst helping with this build. They're so distracting!  

 

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/HCTtXL

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/HCTtXL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/HCTtXL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€221.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: Asus H170M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€109.95 @ some vendor somewhere, I'm sure)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€63.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung  250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€48.65 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  (€323.24 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€92.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €939.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-07 16:55 CEST+0200

 

[DjJehJeh]

Just now, DHelios said:

Here's an updated version. I've also messed up the SSD, this one lists the 250GB version as intended:

 

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/HCTtXL

PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/HCTtXL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/HCTtXL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€221.00 @ Mindfactory) 
Motherboard: Asus H170M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€109.95 @ some vendor somewhere, I'm sure)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (€63.84 @ Mindfactory) 
Storage: Samsung  250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€48.65 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  (€323.24 @ Mindfactory) 
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€92.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €939.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-07 16:55 CEST+0200

 

Thanks, so the mainboard is the only thing I need to look for now?
 

Thank you guys very much

[DHelios]

2 minutes ago, DjJehJeh said:

Thanks, so the mainboard is the only thing I need to look for now?
 

Thank you guys very much

I think you should have a look around for everything still. PCPartPicker doesn't have a Belgian option, so all these listed vendors are German.

 

I also doublechecked, if you go with this case, get some thick double-sided tape or a strip of adhesive velcro. If you mount the hard disk in the lower optical drive bay using the 5.25">3.5" adapter included with the case and then use double-sided tape or velcro to tape the SSD underneath the optical drive bay, you can remove the entire hard drive cage (it's only a few screws). This removes a big interruption of air flow so the cooling will be more efficient (lower temperatures or more silent), and creates extra room for the graphics card (though I think it'll fit even with the hard drive cage). You'll even still have room to add a DVD or Blu-Ray drive if you feel the need for an optical drive.

[DjJehJeh]

30 minutes ago, DHelios said:

I think you should have a look around for everything still. PCPartPicker doesn't have a Belgian option, so all these listed vendors are German.

 

I also doublechecked, if you go with this case, get some thick double-sided tape or a strip of adhesive velcro. If you mount the hard disk in the lower optical drive bay using the 5.25">3.5" adapter included with the case and then use double-sided tape or velcro to tape the SSD underneath the optical drive bay, you can remove the entire hard drive cage (it's only a few screws). This removes a big interruption of air flow so the cooling will be more efficient (lower temperatures or more silent), and creates extra room for the graphics card (though I think it'll fit even with the hard drive cage). You'll even still have room to add a DVD or Blu-Ray drive if you feel the need for an optical drive.

I just found this but the XFX Radeon 390 is DDR5, but that's not important is it?

 

EDIT: And I might want an optical drive (I think) just to be sure that I can use cd's, for when i want to play an old game or something, what should i chose?

 

EDIT2: I would be using the CoolMaster N200 case, not the Fractial one

[DHelios]

11 minutes ago, DjJehJeh said:

I just found this but the XFX Radeon 390 is DDR5, but that's not important is it?

 

EDIT: And I might want an optical drive (I think) just to be sure that I can use cd's, for when i want to play an old game or something, what should i chose?

 

EDIT2: I would be using the CoolMaster N200 case, not the Fractial one

Most graphics cards nowadays use GDDR5, which is a variant of DDR3. It's just for the graphics card, and is not tied in any way to the system's main memory. You'll be able to use a GDDR5 graphics card in a system with DDR4, DDR3, DDR2 or even older memory without issues (apart from, really, if your system is using DDR2 or older you probably need more than a new graphics card).

 

I've got good experiences with Samsung, LG and ASUS drives, but any optical drive will do, really.

 

The N200 should serve you well.