Posted April 1, 2016 Hello guys, This is a pretty straight forward question: Should I go higher?Picture HW is: FX 8320 Mobo is Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 rev4.0 with latest bios CPU cooler Cooler Master Hyper 412s Case CM N400 (two fans, 1 push, 1 pull) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 If your temps under load are around 50C go ahead. I used to be quite active here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 When you hit about 80 under load stop . _/ V\ / / / << | ,/ ] ,/ ] ,/ | / \ \ / / | | | ______| __/_/| | /_______\______}\__} Spoiler [i7-7700k@5Ghz | MSI Z270 M7 | 16GB 3000 GEIL EVOX | STRIX ROG 1060 OC 6G | EVGA G2 650W | ROSEWILL B2 SPIRIT | SANDISK 256GB M2 | 4x 1TB Seagate Barracudas RAID 10 ] [i3-4360 | mini-itx potato | 4gb DDR3-1600 | 8tb wd red | 250gb seagate| Debian 9 ] [Dell Inspiron 15 5567] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, RedWulf said: When you hit about 80 under load stop This isn't an Intel chip, bro. Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power! Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 Personally I don't think there's a maximum safe voltage, as long as temps stay under 80°C under the heaviest load you can put on your CPU (in my mind AIDA64 FPU only is about as heavy as it gets) you shoudl be good. My Reviews: Sennheiser HD 518 Mayflower Electronics ODAC/O2 Review My Tutorials: How To Play Crysis on Linux in DirectX 10 with DXVK Splinter Cell Conviction General Protection Fault Fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 Author yeah, I read that I should stay below 62 degrees C on Package and 71 degrees C on the socket. Correct?> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Arucad said: yeah, I read that I should stay below 62 degrees C on Package and 71 degrees C on the socket. Correct?> Yeah, people confuse AMD with Intel chips. It's the old "stay under 80" doctrine. Éh @Godlygamer23 Pascal Undervolting topic, get more out of your card with less power! Why high refreshrate monitors look better even without Freesync/G-sync in one image.Stutters, framedrops, "lag". How to provide detailed information with your "bottleneck" question, as well as a few solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 4.4 should be enough. @Prysin can tell you the exact drop off point for FX Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 Author Just now, don_svetlio said: 4.4 should be enough. @Prysin can tell you the exact drop off point for FX I just set it to 4,6 . Will run the AIDA stress test for 10-ish minutes and post results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, Arucad said: yeah, I read that I should stay below 62 degrees C on Package and 71 degrees C on the socket. Correct?> Yep. You're well informed on that. As for voltage you can go as high as 1.55V 24/7 IF you can cool it but most people find diminishing returns after 1.475V or so. Decent chips should do around 4.7/4.8 with those volts. LGA775 Overclocking Guide - LGA771 to LGA 775 mod - Rigs in spoiler - Subzero Overclocker - HWBOT - Sandybridge-E Frequency WR Holder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Arucad said: I just set it to 4,6 . Will run the AIDA stress test for 10-ish minutes and post results. i have my own FX 8320 at 4.62GHz, works fine at 1.45-1.46vcore 5 minutes ago, don_svetlio said: 4.4 should be enough. @Prysin can tell you the exact drop off point for FX that drop-off is unique to every CPU. Current setup Images of setup: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/183-show-off-your-setup/?p=5872590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 Author OK, I just BSOD'd . I think I should not be using automatic voltages It was cool with auto voltage at 4.3 , but 4.6 BSODd 1 minute into aida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 Just now, Arucad said: OK, I just BSOD'd . I think I should not be using automatic voltages It was cool with auto voltage at 4.3 , but 4.6 BSODd 1 minute into aida. I wouldn't suggest doing that no. Auto voltage will usually overcompensate for clock speed. LGA775 Overclocking Guide - LGA771 to LGA 775 mod - Rigs in spoiler - Subzero Overclocker - HWBOT - Sandybridge-E Frequency WR Holder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Prysin said: i have my own FX 8320 at 4.62GHz, works fine at 1.45-1.46vcore that drop-off is unique to every CPU. I meant in terms of performance gains - when does it become a state of diminshing returns Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, don_svetlio said: I meant in terms of performance gains - when does it become a state of diminshing returns Well 100MHz is 100MHz. It doesn't become slower after so many steps. Merely the volt investment isn't worth the performance increase and that is on a chip by chip basis. Usually it's between 1.475 and 1.5 on these but there are exceptions. LGA775 Overclocking Guide - LGA771 to LGA 775 mod - Rigs in spoiler - Subzero Overclocker - HWBOT - Sandybridge-E Frequency WR Holder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, don_svetlio said: I meant in terms of performance gains - when does it become a state of diminshing returns it never gets worse. Like @harrynowl said, the "drop off" is tied to when you are using too much voltage to get the next 100MHz... Thus kicking out way more heat. For me, its fine running it at 4.62GHz now that ive bothered to dial in my voltages a bit more precisely. however i need way less voltage to reach 4.4GHz then 4.62GHz.... HOWEVER, the performance drop going from 4.62GHz to 4.4GHz is near 12%... which is a bit ridiculous of a performance cost Current setup Images of setup: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/183-show-off-your-setup/?p=5872590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Majestic said: Yeah, people confuse AMD with Intel chips. It's the old "stay under 80" doctrine. Éh @Godlygamer23 I don't like define rules for temperatures like that at all. "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out." - Carl Sagan. "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you" - Edward I. Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 2, 2016 You still have a bit of headroom left, but not too much, since Temperature >> CPU is showing a maximum of 56*C. Manually set your voltage to 1.38V ~ 1.4V and try again with 4.5 GHz or 4.6 GHz. Keep in mind, the Core Voltage will vary between CPU to CPU (i.e. I can get 4.8 GHz / 4.9 GHz with 1.40V on my FX-8350...but needs ~1.5V for 5.0 GHz...which is too much for my current CPU cooler). For the sake of easy troubleshooting: Disable APM Mode in the UEFI BIOS (APM = Application Power Management) Enable HPC Mode in the UEFI BIOS (HPC = High Performance Computing) Disable "Turbo Core", "Cool N Quiet", and "C1E" in the UEFI (you can re-enable them again later if you want) Adjust your Load-Line-Calibration so your CPU Voltage so it is as stable as possible, and as close to the voltage that you set, when running a stability test in AIDA64 ** Rev 4.0 and the latest UD3 R5 should have Load-Line-Calibration settings in the UEFI ** Decreasing the CPU-NB (listed as HT Link in CPU-Z) from 2600MHz down to 2400MHz or 2200MHz will slightly help with stability ** Higher CPU-NB has very minor effects on performance -- more specifically RAM -- on socket AM3+ CPUs ** Just digging up my *never completed* review / comparison...tested the effects of CPU-NB between socket AM3 Phenom II X6 1090T, and AM3+ Fx-8350. Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary ) Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel) i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master Sapphire NITRO+ RX 6800 XT S.E + EKwb Quantum Vector Full Cover Waterblock 32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3000 CL14 @ DDR-3400 custom CL15 timings SanDisk 480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO + 500GB Samsung 980 + 1TB WD SN750 EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL Ekwb Custom loop + 2x EKwb Quantum Surface P360M Radiators Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns) AMD Ryzen Rig AMD R7-5800X Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC 32GB (16GB X 2) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 Gigabyte Vision RTX 3060 Ti OC EKwb D-RGB 360mm AIO Intel 660p NVMe 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB + WD Black 1TB HDD EVGA P2 850W + White CableMod cables Lian-Li LanCool II Mesh - White Intel Z97 Rig (Decomissioned) Intel i5-4690K @ 4.8 GHz ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97 Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair A50 air cooler NZXT X61 Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version] Antec New TruePower 550W EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned) FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt) ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE* Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD Corsair TX850 (ver.1) Cooler Master HAF 932 <> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <> <> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <> <> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 5, 2016 Author Hmm I don't seem to be successful with increasing fan speed on my CM Hyper 412s. I've downloaded the tool that Gigabyte provides : EasyTune6 (from Gigabyte site), but I can only play with the SysFan1 curves/slopes. It's fairly quiet so I think I can afford to increase its speed buy 10-20%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 5, 2016 Do not use auto voltage. It works fine for lower clocks - but simply will not work when pushing the limits. temperatures are key. My chip likes to freeze above 65c. push voltage up to your thermal limit and test for stability while upping the frequency after success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 5, 2016 Author Just now, Alexokan said: Do not use auto voltage. It works fine for lower clocks - but simply will not work when pushing the limits. temperatures are key. My chip likes to freeze above 65c. push voltage up to your thermal limit and test for stability while upping the frequency after success. I am not trying to find it's limits, I just wanted to do light OC, and from what I experienced 4.4 is just too easy Atm I just wanna increase the fan speed a bit so I can have it a bit cooler, since it runs a bit hotter when system temperature increases due to the GPU being stressed aswell (during gaming) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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