is NVMe worth it ?

[aDham_zO]

Hey guys , 

 

so i'm really into buying that 750 pcie ssd from intel and i wanna know your opinions on should i go or nooooooooooooooo 

 

soo i really wanna know if it will be worth the high price like will i benfit from it ? instant boot times ? really fast programs opening ? 

 

budget isn't a proplem but just to make sure i'm not throwing money at the air.

 

thanks guys 

 

[neutrino monger]

then but the fultondale if budget is no issue

yes its worth it

[Najuno]

If you can afford it why not. I loved it from the start.

[Toxicknight79]

the read and write speeds are certainly nice on that one.  but  get the same R/W  from a M.2 if your board supports that.

[zMeul]

for what? putting the OS on it?!!? 

it's your money in the end

[aDham_zO]

5 minutes ago, zMeul said:

for what? putting the OS on it?!!? 

it's your money in the end

yeah os and couple of programs on it. yeah it's my money but that's why i asked bud, i wanna know is it worth it or no ?

[TidaLWaveZ]

Not worth it.

 

Think about it, can you really justify needing the extra performance offered by nvme?  You're better off getting Gbps with sATA SSD's in RAID 0.  You'll get high speeds and more drivespace for less money.

 

[Yoinkerman]

Worth it?  I'd say no.  

 

Good? Yes, they're great drives.

 

The value for your dollar isn't there yet imo.  If you're cool spending way more for something a bit more shiny, cool.  Personally I'd get a regular drive.

[GoodBytes]

Not worth it, they'll soon get near the same price as normal SSD in the end. And the whole NVMe is super new, and probably things will change or improve causing you to have problems. Wait for to come mainstream.

[NumLock21]

Worth it? Nope. Got to play with a Samsung 950 Pro NVMe SSD and I can't tell squat in difference between that and a regular SSD. Some programs might take advantage of the fast read / write, but for everyday use, they're not worth it. Want NVMe speed, then get a Samsung SSD and enable RAPID mode.

[Nephesh]

On 18/03/2016 at 3:55 PM, huilun02 said:

Let's put things into perspective here.

Going from HDD to SATA SSD is like cutting a 10s load time down to 1s

Going from SATA SSD to PCIE/NVME SSD will bring you down to maybe 0.25s

 

Can you appreciate savings of 9s? I can.

Can you appreciate savings of 0.75s? Not so much for me.

 

How much more you willing to pay to save a fraction of a second?

Don't fall for all those benchmark/paper numbers shenanigans

You don't buy a drive just to run benchmarks and brag about numbers do you?

 

Will a 1,000TB/s drive improve your framerate or CSGO results? Definitely not.

So unless you got wads of money to throw around, I don't see how you get more of out an expensive NVME drive over a regular one with higher capacity.

Is performance linear? meaning that it is always 1/4th of the SATA SSD? as you say 1 second is brought down to 0.25 second will not mean that when something is loading 60 secs it will be divided by 4 down to 15 seconds? or will it?

[dizmo]

Not worth it unless you're doing extensive video work that's writing to the drive in question.

I'd just get a high capacity m.2 SSD.

[Salacious B Crum]

On 3/18/2016 at 11:38 AM, aDham_zO said:

yeah os and couple of programs on it. yeah it's my money but that's why i asked bud, i wanna know is it worth it or no ?

I just put a Samsung 960 PRO Series 512GB NVMe M.2 Internal SSD in my Ryzen rig and installed the OS, its blazing fast but as you are aware pricey

 

Edit: Oh well didn't see this was a year old post! Wonder what he decided?

[Nephesh]

1 hour ago, mrbilky said:

I just put a Samsung 960 PRO Series 512GB NVMe M.2 Internal SSD in my Ryzen rig and installed the OS, its blazing fast but as you are aware pricey

 

Edit: Oh well didn't see this was a year old post! Wonder what he decided?

Have you got access to normal SATA SSD to make a simple game loading time comparison, just pure numbers no need to do any video or anything fancy?

[Salacious B Crum]

I sure do a Samsung EVO 850 but I'm just getting into gaming so I don't have anything to load and compare yet all I can tell you for sure is that the NVMe is wicked fast compared to any SSD I've owned to date and my EVO 850 is the fastest SATA SSD I have owned, I'm currently creating a RAID with 2 of my surplus SSD's when I'm done I'll post speed test comparisons. To be clear I have no experience with load times for comparison as this is my first build with all this high end stuff

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/PkdXsY

 

This is the NVMe:

 

Disk Write Test
Number of frames = 775
Write rate = 346 frames/second
Write rate = 1827 MB/second
Minimum rate = 274 MB/Sec
Maximum rate = 2517 MB/Sec

 

Disk Read Test
Number of frames = 775
Write rate = 556 frames/second
Write rate = 2939 MB/second
Minimum rate = 804 MB/Sec
Maximum rate = 3136 MB/Sec
 

Here's the 850 EVO:

 

Disk Write Test
Number of frames = 775
Write rate = 80 frames/second
Write rate = 426 MB/second
Minimum rate = 122 MB/Sec
Maximum rate = 502 MB/Sec

 

Disk Read Test
Number of frames = 775
Write rate = 96 frames/second
Write rate = 511 MB/second
Minimum rate = 113 MB/Sec
Maximum rate = 519 MB/Sec
 

[Columbo]

If it's any consolation I was going to ask the same question as the OP. I am working on a new build and looking into parts. On a 256GB SSD I am usually first to load on CS:GO maps. Was looking into M.2 On a side note I once had a RAID O with SSD's. I was always first to load before they put in blocks on BF4. Occasionally someone loaded faster than me and they always asked me if I had a PCI-E card. Not the M2 but those expensive PCI-E cards that look like graphics cards. They were around the same speeds as the Samsung 960 M.2. This was in 2015. Anyway, here is my benchmarks of two Toshiba 128GB SSD's in RAID 0. This is always a good option for SSD's if you want to save money.

[Scruffy90]

Short and long of it - no

[Nephesh]

I want to get 1TB SSD as my 256GB Samsung just isn't large enough, I constantly have to remove games to copy new ones on.

 

I simply can't make up my mind... it seems that these NVME (M.2) disks are not worth it as they only show their speed when copying large files and I don't care about that at all, I want the fastest system/programs/games loading times. But I don't want to get new 1TB SATA SSD and find out it was a mistake to get it.

 

Should I flip a coin....? :)P

[dexT]

On 3/18/2016 at 9:55 AM, huilun02 said:

Let's put things into perspective here.

Going from HDD to SATA SSD is like cutting a 10s load time down to 1s

Going from SATA SSD to PCIE/NVME SSD will bring you down to maybe 0.25s

 

Can you appreciate savings of 9s? I can.

Can you appreciate savings of 0.75s? Not so much for me.

 

How much more you willing to pay to save a fraction of a second?

Don't fall for all those benchmark/paper numbers shenanigans

You don't buy a drive just to run benchmarks and brag about numbers do you?

 

Will a 1,000TB/s drive improve your framerate or CSGO results? Definitely not.

So unless you got wads of money to throw around, I don't see how you get more of out an expensive NVME drive over a regular one with higher capacity.

This video seems to discredit your response.