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zvParadox

Hey guys so I built a computer and I'm here to help you guys avoid what I did wrong.

 

1.DONT GO CHEAP!!

when building a PC going the cheap route will end up having you upset with performance. cheap defined as less than 700 dollars.

 

2. CPU IS IMPORTANT!!

It is generally a good idea to get a high end CPU before getting a high end GPU because with a high end CPU your upgrade path is endless. a low end CPU will give you a lot worse performance than usual on high end cards because the CPU sends data to the graphics card before the card renders it.

 

3. NO PREBUILT PC's!!

 

Try to avoid going to "prebuilt PC" websites because they charge you 100-200 just to build it and I'm some cases 60 dollars for shipping like ibuypower. building a PC is a lot easier than people make it out to be.

 

4. DON'T HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS!!

 

When I built my PC I was expecting it to be a monster (AMD FX 8320 GTX 970) but it couldn't run a lot of demanding games on high to ultra with a stable frame rate.

 

5. GET AN SLI MOTHERBOARD

 

If you have a little extra budget deffinetly aim for an SLI motherboard. it will come in handy adventually!

 

If you guys have anything to say leave a comment!! thanks for reading! ;)

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1 minute ago, zvParadox said:

GTX 970) but it couldn't run a lot of demanding games on high to ultra with a stable frame rate.

 

you did something terribly wrong then. What res?

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your CPU is bottle necking your GPU to an extent, resulting in poor performance

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Just now, shadowbyte said:

your CPU is bottle necking your GPU to an extent, resulting in poor performance

Exactly even though OP said to get a more expensive cpu, maybe that was his mistake?

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I agree, don't go cheap. Use your budget to build the best system you can, spend remainder on GPU. You want to build a machine that you only need to upgrade the GPU. 

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Just now, BaileyFY said:

Exactly even though OP said to get a more expensive cpu, maybe that was his mistake?

that's what I thought.

the 8320 doesn't exactly spring to mind when I think of a "high end cpu"

something like an i5-4460 will do just fine

 

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Canon AE-1 w/ 50mm f/1.8 lens

Pentax KM w/ 55mm f/1.8 SMC lens

Zenit-E w/ 58mm f/2 Helios lens

Panasonic G7 with 14-42mm f/3.5 lens

Polaroid Spectra System

 

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1 minute ago, FloRolf said:

 

you did something terribly wrong then. What res?

1080. I switched to an i5 6600k a weak ago and my performance was boosted greatly!

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4 minutes ago, zvParadox said:

Hey guys so I built a computer and I'm here to help you guys avoid what I did wrong.

 

1.DONT GO CHEAP!!

when building a PC going the cheap route will end up having you upset with performance. cheap defined as less than 700 dollars.

 

2. CPU IS IMPORTANT!!

It is generally a good idea to get a high end CPU before getting a high end GPU because with a high end CPU your upgrade path is endless. a low end CPU will give you a lot worse performance than usual on high end cards because the CPU sends data to the graphics card before the card renders it.

 

3. NO PREBUILT PC's!!

 

Try to avoid going to "prebuilt PC" websites because they charge you 100-200 just to build it and I'm some cases 60 dollars for shipping like ibuypower. building a PC is a lot easier than people make it out to be.

 

4. DON'T HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS!!

 

When I built my PC I was expecting it to be a monster (AMD FX 8320 GTX 970) but it couldn't run a lot of demanding games on high to ultra with a stable frame rate.

 

5. GET AN SLI MOTHERBOARD

 

If you have a little extra budget deffinetly aim for an SLI motherboard. it will come in handy adventually!

 

If you guys have anything to say leave a comment!! thanks for reading! ;)

1. You can go cheap... a I5 4460 and a 380 will max games out 60 fps on high settings, and its less then 700$..

2. They are both evenly important

3. Agreed

4. You fucked up with the CPU Part

5. SLI/Crossfire has lots of disadvantages imo i'd go for one 980 ti than dual 970's or dual 390's just in terms of games supporting 2 gpu's

 

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2 minutes ago, zvParadox said:

 

 

3. NO PREBUILT PC's!!

 

Try to avoid going to "prebuilt PC" websites because they charge you 100-200 just to build it and I'm some cases 60 dollars

 

 

Prebuilts are not bad afterall. They are for ones who are not very good at building one themselves, so they get them from an OEM just to be safe and get cheap Windows and antivirus.

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2 minutes ago, shadowbyte said:

your CPU is bottle necking your GPU to an extent, resulting in poor performance

very true especially in CPU demanding games. I was getting 45 FPS ON BORDER LANDS 2 BRO!

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2 minutes ago, DaltonM said:

I agree, don't go cheap. Use your budget to build the best system you can, spend remainder on GPU. You want to build a machine that you only need to upgrade the GPU. 

honestly start with a pretty cheap GPU but have a great CPU.

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1 minute ago, Aytex said:

1. You can go cheap... a I5 4460 and a 380 will max games out 60 fps on high settings, and its less then 700$..

2. They are both evenly important

3. Agreed

4. You fucked up with the CPU Part

5. SLI/Crossfire has lots of disadvantages imo i'd go for one 980 ti than dual 970's or dual 390's just in terms of games supporting 2 gpu's

 

Couldn't have said it better 

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for point 5... will DX12 require sli capable motherboard to run multi gpu link? o.O

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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Just now, Moonzy said:

for point 5... will DX12 require sli capable motherboard to run multi gpu link? o.O

I'm not exactly sure how it works but slot 1 and 2 need to be at least 8x PCI-E speed

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4 minutes ago, Aytex said:

1. You can go cheap... a I5 4460 and a 380 will max games out 60 fps on high settings, and its less then 700$..

2. They are both evenly important

3. Agreed

4. You fucked up with the CPU Part

5. SLI/Crossfire has lots of disadvantages imo i'd go for one 980 ti than dual 970's or dual 390's just in terms of games supporting 2 gpu's

 

If you get a 4460, once it becomes a bottleneck, you have to buy another CPU. If you get a 4690k, you can OC once it becomes a bottleneck .Saves you from buying another CPU for 1-2 years. 

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4 minutes ago, Aytex said:

1. You can go cheap... a I5 4460 and a 380 will max games out 60 fps on high settings, and its less then 700$..

2. They are both evenly important

3. Agreed

4. You fucked up with the CPU Part

5. SLI/Crossfire has lots of disadvantages imo i'd go for one 980 ti than dual 970's or dual 390's just in terms of games supporting 2 gpu's

 

I was saying for future if you get a 980ti you could always get a second one you know xD

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Just now, DaltonM said:

If you get a 4460, once it becomes a bottleneck, you have to buy another CPU. If you get a 4690k, you can OC once it becomes a bottleneck .Saves you from buying another CPU for 1-2 years. 

just realized i5 6500 is only 20 bucks more, so go for a 6500 as well

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When I started building PC's one thing I learned was to go slow and take your time.

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1 minute ago, Aytex said:

just realized i5 6500 is only 20 bucks more, so go for a 6500 as well

different platform, skylake motherboards are generally more expensive than haswell motherboards now, as well as ddr4 compared to ddr3

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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Just now, Moonzy said:

different platform, skylake motherboards are generally more expensive than haswell motherboards now, as well as ddr4 compared to ddr3

Bearly.

Check prices often my friend??

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Just now, Moonzy said:

different platform, skylake motherboards are generally more expensive than haswell motherboards now, as well as ddr4 compared to ddr3

when I switched over to an i5 6600k it wasn't as expensive as I expected. especially after I sold my old mobo CPU and ram as a combo.

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Just now, Aytex said:

Bearly.

Check prices often my friend??

just built my skylake build, so ive looked into things quite a bit recently,

perhaps its just my local problems xD

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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Just now, Moonzy said:

just built my skylake build, so ive looked into things quite a bit recently,

perhaps its just my local problems xD

Can fit almost a r9 390

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($204.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($37.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($31.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  ($308.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $745.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-01 17:37 EST-0500

 

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Just now, Moonzy said:

just built my skylake build, so ive looked into things quite a bit recently,

perhaps its just my local problems xD

are you liking your new CPU?

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