Posted February 24, 2016 source: http://techfrag.com/2016/02/24/amd-polaris-11-may-have-8-6-billion-transistors-launching-mid-year/ AMD seems to have gone to twitter teasing Polaris again Quote https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=700420476070301697 It seems that Chris Hook could be saying Polaris has 8.6 billion transistors. However, I personally feel the 16 million part might also be a bit of a hint. Perhaps Polaris 10 has 8.6 billion and 11 has 16 billion? Quote Internet is currently trying to decrypt the recent Twitter conversation between AMD graphics boss Raja Koduri and Marketing Director Chris Hook. While the tweets from two AMD officials don’t directly mention the transistor count on AMD’s upcoming Polaris 11 chip, they do mention the Capsaicin (chilli pepper’s active component) which could somehow refer to 8.6 billion transistors. As well, they seem to be talking about hot and spicy stuff, which could either be just confirming that Polaris is really efficient or could mean AMD is planning on releasing an extremely powerful version of Polaris. I personally am not sure what this all means. Tell me your thoughts! Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 looks like amd is teasing the big guns and getting ready to beat NVIDIA Specs: CPU: I5 6600K (4.5 GHZ), GPU: RX 480 (stock), Mobo: MSI Z170A tomahawk AC, RAM: Corsair 16GB drr4 2600, CASE: NZXT S340, storage 240GB crusial SSD and a 1TB WD HHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 I'm guessing it's the scoville ratings of those two chillis multiplied together. CPU: Intel 3570 GPUs: Nvidia GTX 660Ti Case: Fractal design Define R4 Storage: 1TB WD Caviar Black & 240GB Hyper X 3k SSD Sound: Custom One Pros Keyboard: Ducky Shine 4 Mouse: Logitech G500 Ubisoft's Anthem: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/249540-my-ubisoft-song/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, kelvindeschutter said: looks like amd is teasing the big guns and getting ready to beat NVIDIA I'm betting that regardless of who wins the polaris vs pascal round they will be within 15% of each others general performance... Like they always are. Don't see anybody totally wiping the floor with it, based on recent GPU wars history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, DocSwag said: source: http://techfrag.com/2016/02/24/amd-polaris-11-may-have-8-6-billion-transistors-launching-mid-year/ AMD seems to have gone to twitter teasing Polaris again It seems that Chris Hook could be saying Polaris has 8.6 billion transistors. However, I personally feel the 16 million part might also be a bit of a hint. Perhaps Polaris 10 has 8.6 billion and 11 has 16 billion? As well, they seem to be talking about hot and spicy stuff, which could either be just confirming that Polaris is really efficient or could mean AMD is planning on releasing an extremely powerful version of Polaris. I personally am not sure what this all means. Tell me your thoughts! AMD got a 15 kill streak. Tactical nuke against nivida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Starelementpoke said: AMD got a 15 kill streak. Tactical nuke against nivida. thought it was 25 kills . CPU: Intel 3570 GPUs: Nvidia GTX 660Ti Case: Fractal design Define R4 Storage: 1TB WD Caviar Black & 240GB Hyper X 3k SSD Sound: Custom One Pros Keyboard: Ducky Shine 4 Mouse: Logitech G500 Ubisoft's Anthem: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/249540-my-ubisoft-song/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Just now, werto165 said: thought it was 25 kills . I dunno, I don´t play cod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Just now, Starelementpoke said: I dunno, I don´t play cod. neither do I... CPU: Intel 3570 GPUs: Nvidia GTX 660Ti Case: Fractal design Define R4 Storage: 1TB WD Caviar Black & 240GB Hyper X 3k SSD Sound: Custom One Pros Keyboard: Ducky Shine 4 Mouse: Logitech G500 Ubisoft's Anthem: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/249540-my-ubisoft-song/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Wasn't Fury X 8,6 Billion? Shouldn't it be more? Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, don_svetlio said: Wasn't Fury X 8,6 Billion? Shouldn't it be more? over 10bn apparently. yeah it was. CPU: Intel 3570 GPUs: Nvidia GTX 660Ti Case: Fractal design Define R4 Storage: 1TB WD Caviar Black & 240GB Hyper X 3k SSD Sound: Custom One Pros Keyboard: Ducky Shine 4 Mouse: Logitech G500 Ubisoft's Anthem: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/249540-my-ubisoft-song/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Just now, werto165 said: over 10bn apparently. Smells good Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Just now, don_svetlio said: Smells good I think that was wrong, me not checking with more websites... CPU: Intel 3570 GPUs: Nvidia GTX 660Ti Case: Fractal design Define R4 Storage: 1TB WD Caviar Black & 240GB Hyper X 3k SSD Sound: Custom One Pros Keyboard: Ducky Shine 4 Mouse: Logitech G500 Ubisoft's Anthem: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/249540-my-ubisoft-song/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Just now, don_svetlio said: Wasn't Fury X 8,6 Billion? Shouldn't it be more? Fiji was 8.9 Billion. Tonga was 5 Billion. Hawaii was 6.2 Billion So Polaris 11 is a let down already. Unless it means that it's the successor to Hawaii. In which case it makes perfect sense. That would mean Vega 10 would be the successor to Fiji. Judge a product on its own merits AND the company that made it. How to setup MSI Afterburner OSD | How to make your AMD Radeon GPU more efficient with Radeon Chill | (Probably) Why LMG Merch shipping to the EU is expensive Oneplus 6 (Early 2023 to present) | HP Envy 15" x360 R7 5700U (Mid 2021 to present) | Steam Deck (Late 2022 to present) Mid 2023 AlTech Desktop Refresh - AMD R7 5800X (Mid 2023), XFX Radeon RX 6700XT MBA (Mid 2021), MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon (Early 2018), 32GB DDR4-3200 (16GB x2) (Mid 2022 Noctua NH-D15 (Early 2021), Corsair MP510 1.92TB NVMe SSD (Mid 2020), beQuiet Pure Wings 2 140mm x2 & 120mm x1 (Mid 2023), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, AluminiumTech said: Fiji was 8.9 Billion. Tonga was 5 Billion. Hawaii was 6.2 Billion So Polaris 11 is a let down already. Unless it means that it's the successor to Hawaii. In which case it makes perfect sense. That would mean Vega 10 would be the successor to Fiji. I think he might be saying the minimum in the line-up will be 8.6 - look at the wording againnothing less than the 8-methyl-N-vanillyl-6-nonenamide-infused Carolina Reaper will do... Archangel (Desktop) CPU: i5 4590 GPU:Asus R9 280 3GB RAM:HyperX Beast 2x4GBPSU:SeaSonic S12G 750W Mobo:GA-H97m-HD3 Case:CM Silencio 650 Storage:1 TB WD RedCelestial (Laptop 1) CPU:i7 4720HQ GPU:GTX 860M 4GB RAM:2x4GB SK Hynix DDR3Storage: 250GB 850 EVO Model:Lenovo Y50-70Seraph (Laptop 2) CPU:i7 6700HQ GPU:GTX 970M 3GB RAM:2x8GB DDR4Storage: 256GB Samsung 951 + 1TB Toshiba HDD Model:Asus GL502VTWindows 10 is now MSX! - http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/440190-can-we-start-calling-windows-10/page-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 I know absolutely nothing when it comes to making GPU's but isn't it similar to the way you can have IPC gains with CPU's you could possibly have a faster GPU with the same number or a similar number of transistors? CPU: Intel 3570 GPUs: Nvidia GTX 660Ti Case: Fractal design Define R4 Storage: 1TB WD Caviar Black & 240GB Hyper X 3k SSD Sound: Custom One Pros Keyboard: Ducky Shine 4 Mouse: Logitech G500 Ubisoft's Anthem: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/249540-my-ubisoft-song/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, werto165 said: I know absolutely nothing when it comes to making GPU's but isn't it similar to the way you can have IPC gains with CPU's you could possibly have a faster GPU with the same number or a similar number of transistors? SHouldn't be. Only perf comes from more Transistors, better architecture or higher clock speed. Not a new process by itself. Judge a product on its own merits AND the company that made it. How to setup MSI Afterburner OSD | How to make your AMD Radeon GPU more efficient with Radeon Chill | (Probably) Why LMG Merch shipping to the EU is expensive Oneplus 6 (Early 2023 to present) | HP Envy 15" x360 R7 5700U (Mid 2021 to present) | Steam Deck (Late 2022 to present) Mid 2023 AlTech Desktop Refresh - AMD R7 5800X (Mid 2023), XFX Radeon RX 6700XT MBA (Mid 2021), MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon (Early 2018), 32GB DDR4-3200 (16GB x2) (Mid 2022 Noctua NH-D15 (Early 2021), Corsair MP510 1.92TB NVMe SSD (Mid 2020), beQuiet Pure Wings 2 140mm x2 & 120mm x1 (Mid 2023), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, don_svetlio said: I think he might be saying the minimum in the line-up will be 8.6 - look at the wording againnothing less than the 8-methyl-N-vanillyl-6-nonenamide-infused Carolina Reaper will do... What is Polaris 10 supposed to replace though? If it replaces Tonga and Bonaire in one go then yes it makes sense but from 2 ish to 8.6? damn. that would be around the 4x they said originally. So then i'm guessing Vega 10 will have 32 billion, and Polaris 11 will have 24 Billion. If that is even possible. 8.9 was the max that 28nm could handle. AMD built the largest die they could. They can't do that on their first 14nm architecture. It leaves no space for improvement. Judge a product on its own merits AND the company that made it. How to setup MSI Afterburner OSD | How to make your AMD Radeon GPU more efficient with Radeon Chill | (Probably) Why LMG Merch shipping to the EU is expensive Oneplus 6 (Early 2023 to present) | HP Envy 15" x360 R7 5700U (Mid 2021 to present) | Steam Deck (Late 2022 to present) Mid 2023 AlTech Desktop Refresh - AMD R7 5800X (Mid 2023), XFX Radeon RX 6700XT MBA (Mid 2021), MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon (Early 2018), 32GB DDR4-3200 (16GB x2) (Mid 2022 Noctua NH-D15 (Early 2021), Corsair MP510 1.92TB NVMe SSD (Mid 2020), beQuiet Pure Wings 2 140mm x2 & 120mm x1 (Mid 2023), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Not very meaningful tbh, until we have performance numbers there's no way of knowing how it will actually perform. Same for nvidia's next architecture. Don't ask to ask, just ask... please sudo chmod -R 000 /* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Pascal has been rumored to have 17 billion transistors. Titan X already has been out for quite a while with 8 billion transistors and the Fury X with 8.9 billion. Why is this a big deal? - ASUS X99 Deluxe - i7 5820k - Nvidia GTX 1080ti SLi - 4x4GB EVGA SSC 2800mhz DDR4 - Samsung SM951 500 - 2x Samsung 850 EVO 512 - - EK Supremacy EVO CPU Block - EK FC 1080 GPU Blocks - EK XRES 100 DDC - EK Coolstream XE 360 - EK Coolstream XE 240 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 You guys forget... raja koduri is indian. Indian food uses some of the most insane spice mixes, including the infamous ghost chilli. Guess they are discussing hos to feed the rumor-mill (and wccf tech) Current setup Images of setup: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/183-show-off-your-setup/?p=5872590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said: What is Polaris 10 supposed to replace though? If it replaces Tonga and Bonaire in one go then yes it makes sense but from 2 ish to 8.6? damn. that would be around the 4x they said originally. So then i'm guessing Vega 10 will have 32 billion, and Polaris 11 will have 24 Billion. If that is even possible. 8.9 was the max that 28nm could handle. AMD built the largest die they could. They can't do that on their first 14nm architecture. It leaves no space for improvement. They can, if they plan to pull another rebrand party next year or the one after. Simply pull another 300 series. Hue hue hue. Or, they know samsungs 10nm is going to arrive fast enough that they can jump down yet another node very soon. Current setup Images of setup: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/183-show-off-your-setup/?p=5872590 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 36 minutes ago, DocSwag said: -snip- Polaris 10 has up to 19 billion transistors., as opposed to Pascals 16, because of the process being 2nm smaller. • Pixelbook Go i5 • Pixel 4 XL • Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Author 2 minutes ago, Citadelen said: Polaris 10 has up to 19 billion transistors., as opposed to Pascals 16, because of the process being 2nm smaller. Processes can't be compared like this. There are many other factors that are in play. AMD also tends to create smaller dies... Fiji was an exception as if they didn't go so big Nvidia would blow them out at the high end. Sure, the 14nm transistors will be smaller, but also remember about transistor density. Intel has extremely high transistor density and (I believe) Intel can fit more transistors in the same space as, say GloFo or Samsung even though they are both on 14nm. Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, DocSwag said: -snip- I drew the basic dots, whether that's the reason or not, it's still got more transistors. • Pixelbook Go i5 • Pixel 4 XL • Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 24, 2016 Author 6 minutes ago, Citadelen said: I drew the basic dots, whether that's the reason or not, it's still got more transistors. Nothing will be sure until they release it. Goddamnit AMD just release it already! Make sure to quote me or tag me when responding to me, or I might not know you replied! Examples: Do this: Quote And make sure you do it by hitting the quote button at the bottom left of my post, and not the one inside the editor! Or this: @DocSwag Buy whatever product is best for you, not what product is "best" for the market. Interested in computer architecture? Still in middle or high school? P.M. me! I love computer hardware and feel free to ask me anything about that (or phones). I especially like SSDs. But please do not ask me anything about Networking, programming, command line stuff, or any relatively hard software stuff. I know next to nothing about that. Compooters: Spoiler Desktop: Spoiler CPU: i7 6700k, CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3, Motherboard: MSI Z170a KRAIT GAMING, RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 4x4gb DDR4-2666 MHz, Storage: SanDisk SSD Plus 240gb + OCZ Vertex 180 480 GB + Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 7200 RPM, Video Card: EVGA GTX 970 SSC, Case: Fractal Design Define S, Power Supply: Seasonic Focus+ Gold 650w Yay, Keyboard: Logitech G710+, Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum, Headphones: B&O H9i, Monitor: LG 29um67 (2560x1080 75hz freesync) Home Server: Spoiler CPU: Pentium G4400, CPU Cooler: Stock, Motherboard: MSI h110l Pro Mini AC, RAM: Hyper X Fury DDR4 1x8gb 2133 MHz, Storage: PNY CS1311 120gb SSD + two Segate 4tb HDDs in RAID 1, Video Card: Does Intel Integrated Graphics count?, Case: Fractal Design Node 304, Power Supply: Seasonic 360w 80+ Gold, Keyboard+Mouse+Monitor: Does it matter? Laptop (I use it for school): Spoiler Surface book 2 13" with an i7 8650u, 8gb RAM, 256 GB storage, and a GTX 1050 And if you're curious (or a stalker) I have a Just Black Pixel 2 XL 64gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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