980 Intel i5-4590 bottlenecking MSI GTX 980Ti

[Daedalus Apex]

Will my i5-4590 be bottlenecking the GTX 980 (MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G)

(I'm planning to upgrade to a 4790K later, but the 4590 has to do for now.)

 

EDIT:

I MENT 980 NOT TI.

[Kobathor]

No. As in: you're good.

[dizmo]

Highly doubt you'd need much more than a 4590. Not to a noticeable amount at least, especially if you're running a 1080p monitor.

[Bananasplit_00]

noope, no bottlenecking here  your fine with almost any I5

[HKZeroFive]

The MSI GTX 980 Gaming 4GB isn't a GTX 980Ti?

[VirusStorm]

name any game. It wont bottleneck

[N_Bot]

Not an issue here.

[App4that]

6 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

name any game. It wont bottleneck

 

5 minutes ago, N_Bot said:

Not an issue here.

There's going to be a bottleneck

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-fallout-4-4023

 

 

 

[VirusStorm]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

 

There's going to be a bottleneck

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-fallout-4-4023

 

 

 

the titan x is a diffrent story

[Daedalus Apex]

12 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

the titan x is a diffrent story

980 and Titan X are not that diffirent, right?

[App4that]

Just now, VirusStorm said:

the titan x is a diffrent story

The Titan X has the same performance as a 980ti.

[don_svetlio]

It's fine. No bottlenecks for the most part

[App4that]

7 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

It's fine. No bottlenecks for the most part

So a 10fps or more loss is fine? 

[Daedalus Apex]

1 minute ago, DEcobra11 said:

No

Also that's a 980, not 980Ti

Yeah MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G, not 980Ti. Typo in mainpost. Fixed it.

[daniellearmouth]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

So a 10fps or more loss is fine? 

Just gonna...do this...

10 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

It's fine. No bottlenecks for the most part

Of course, every game treats the hardware differently. Some games will run on a Pentium just fine, others will hog up system resources like bastards (hi there, ARMA!).

[don_svetlio]

4 minutes ago, Daedalus Apex said:

Yeah MSI GTX 980 GAMING 4G, not 980Ti. Typo in mainpost. Fixed it.

You'll be fine. No need to get absurd hardware like other people. i5 + 980 is going to be fine

[App4that]

1 minute ago, daniellearmouth said:

Just gonna...do this...

Of course, every game treats the hardware differently. Some games will run on a Pentium just fine, others will hog up system resources like bastards (hi there, ARMA!).

But the title is clear, and asks if there will be a bottleneck. The answer is yes. The severity of which will vary from application to application.

 

Does that mean don't get the 980, absolutely not. It will work better than their 960 until such time they can afford a 4790k, which is awesome by the way OP. 

 

But don't lie to the OP. That's bs. 

[SteveGrabowski0]

If you're aiming for 120+ fps at 1080p then yeah, an i5-4590 is going to significantly limit your 980 Ti. If you're shooting for 60 fps it won't much; you'll still have to turn down stuff like shadows and draw distance in some games to lock to 60 fps, but that's the only concern if targeting 60 fps.

[daniellearmouth]

Just now, App4that said:

But the title is clear, and asks if there will be a bottleneck. The answer is yes. The severity of which will vary from application to application.

 

Does that mean don't get the 980, absolutely not. It will work better than their 960 until such time they can afford a 4790k, which is awesome by the way OP. 

 

But don't lie to the OP. That's bs. 

Nowhere did I say there would be no bottleneck. My only two entries into the discussion are this post and the former where I pointed out that it would be fine for the most part.

Only when you are pushing one component or the other are you going to experience the eventual bottleneck.

 

Hell, my system is completely out of whack. Two mid-tier GPUs from nearly five years ago in a rig with a six-core i7 and 32GB of RAM is certain to cause some level of bottlenecking.

 

So what am I saying?

Basically, be pragmatic about it. Yes, there will be a bottleneck, but it's only when the user is going to be pushing either side of the hardware to its extremes to the point where the other side can't keep up.

Is this the same as me saying there is no bottleneck? No. As I've said three times in this post already, there will be a bottleneck, but you will have to go out of your way to find it.

[App4that]

1 minute ago, daniellearmouth said:

Nowhere did I say there would be no bottleneck. My only two entries into the discussion are this post and the former where I pointed out that it would be fine for the most part.

Only when you are pushing one component or the other are you going to experience the eventual bottleneck.

 

Hell, my system is completely out of whack. Two mid-tier GPUs from nearly five years ago in a rig with a six-core i7 and 32GB of RAM is certain to cause some level of bottlenecking.

 

So what am I saying?

Basically, be pragmatic about it. Yes, there will be a bottleneck, but it's only when the user is going to be pushing either side of the hardware to its extremes to the point where the other side can't keep up.

Is this the same as me saying there is no bottleneck? No. As I've said three times in this post already, there will be a bottleneck, but you will have to go out of your way to find it.

No, you'll find it in any CPU intensive game, but I agree with the rest of your post. 

[Monarch]

55 minutes ago, Kobathor said:

No. As in: you're good.

 

55 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Highly doubt you'd need much more than a 4590. Not to a noticeable amount at least, especially if you're running a 1080p monitor.

 

53 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

noope, no bottlenecking here  your fine with almost any I5

 

51 minutes ago, VirusStorm said:

name any game. It wont bottleneck

 

50 minutes ago, N_Bot said:

Not an issue here.

 

21 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

You'll be fine. No need to get absurd hardware like other people. i5 + 980 is going to be fine

 

15 minutes ago, daniellearmouth said:

Nowhere did I say there would be no bottleneck. My only two entries into the discussion are this post and the former where I pointed out that it would be fine for the most part.

Only when you are pushing one component or the other are you going to experience the eventual bottleneck.

 

Hell, my system is completely out of whack. Two mid-tier GPUs from nearly five years ago in a rig with a six-core i7 and 32GB of RAM is certain to cause some level of bottlenecking.

 

So what am I saying?

Basically, be pragmatic about it. Yes, there will be a bottleneck, but it's only when the user is going to be pushing either side of the hardware to its extremes to the point where the other side can't keep up.

Is this the same as me saying there is no bottleneck? No. As I've said three times in this post already, there will be a bottleneck, but you will have to go out of your way to find it.

There's so much bad advice on LTT it's unreal. People are told to buy i5's and then when they have stuttering and fps drops in CPU-bound scenarios they blame developers for "not optimizing" the game.

[Kobathor]

1 minute ago, Monarch said:

 

There's so much bad advice on LTT it's unreal. People are told to buy i5's and then when they have stuttering and fps drops in CPU-bound scenarios they blame developers for "not optimizing" the game.

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Hey, dude, maybe instead of telling us we're giving bad advice, you should give some good advice! Or at least try to tell us what we're saying wrong. You yourself are outfitted with an i5 and a 970, do you have crazy stutter issues? I would like to know!

[dizmo]

4 minutes ago, Monarch said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's so much bad advice on LTT it's unreal. People are told to buy i5's and then when they have stuttering and fps drops in CPU-bound scenarios they blame developers for "not optimizing" the game.

I highly doubt you'd find a game struggling with an i5.

[Monarch]

Just now, Kobathor said:

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Hey, dude, maybe instead of telling us we're giving bad advice, you should give some good advice!

I'm not even gonna bother. I'll get attacked by a bunch of fanboys and smartasses who are going to say my sources suck, I take things out of context, etc. and I'm sick of dealing with them. I'm just saying OP should do a thorough research and not trust anyone here. 99% of advice here is bullshit.

[daniellearmouth]

1 minute ago, Monarch said:

There's so much bad advice on LTT it's unreal. People are told to buy i5's and then when they have stuttering and fps drops in CPU-bound scenarios they blame developers for "not optimizing" the game.

Uhhhhh......what u chattin u cheeki bugga

 

In all seriousness, though, I fail to see what's "bad advice" about recommending an i5.

 

Not all games are CPU-bound. There are a good few, but not all of them are.

And even then, games don't often use more than two threads, and very VERY few use as many as four threads.

 

And not only that, but most of the time it IS the fault of the developer. I'm a developer. I know when a game has been terribly optimised. Tower of Guns on PS4 is a stellar example of bad optimisation.

Is it wrong for people to not point the finger at developers for poor optimisation for a game they bought a reasonably pricey computer for? No. If it's badly optimised, it needs fixing.