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GTX 970 Or wait for pascal?

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So, i will be buying a new gaming pc in July and i am going through a tough time picking what GPU to get? 

I mean there is the option of getting the 970 and being done with it but then the pascal GPUs sound so good!

I have a strict budget of £950 so I'm not 100% sure i could even afford a pascal GPU, I would be looking for a similar rage card to the 

970 just newer and not with 3.5GB of memory!

What do i do guys? Anything would be helpful right now!

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At this point wait for Polaris

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At this point wait for Polaris

 

What is that?

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MSI Gaming X 1070

WD blue 2tb

samsung 850 evo 250gb

EVGA supernova G2 650w

 

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inb4 the plethora of "r9-390" posts, pascal will not be out for quite some time. > half a year I believe.

 

As for the 970, i'll refer to this comment i made;

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/533899-r9-390-vs-gtx-970/page-4#entry7084736

 

 

At this point wait for Polaris

 
Isn't polaris due for Q3 2016 or even 2017 aswell?
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What is that?

AMD's answer to Pascal

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AMD's answer to Pascal

 

How long until it comes out? I have to buy the PC in july!

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WD blue 2tb

samsung 850 evo 250gb

EVGA supernova G2 650w

 

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inb4 the plethora of "r9-390" posts, pascal will not be out for quite some time. > half a year I believe.

 

As for the 970, i'll refer to this comment i made;

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/533899-r9-390-vs-gtx-970/page-4#entry7084736

 

 
 
Isn't polaris due for Q3 2016 or even 2017 aswell?

 

As i said i will be buying the PC in july so about 7 months

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MSI Gaming X 1070

WD blue 2tb

samsung 850 evo 250gb

EVGA supernova G2 650w

 

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inb4 the plethora of "r9-390" posts, pascal will not be out for quite some time. > half a year I believe.

 

As for the 970, i'll refer to this comment i made;

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/533899-r9-390-vs-gtx-970/page-4#entry7084736

 

 
 
Isn't polaris due for Q3 2016 or even 2017 aswell?

 

I just want to add AMD cards have a similar thing to Shadow Play on AMD Evolved.

(it's buggy but existent)

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The 970 is worth it now if you can pass it down to another system. Otherwise wait.

 

This is what I am doing, getting a 970 now to hold me over till pascal. 

 

But that's only because I will put in a lower powered system to make it game even better. 

 

If you don't plan on selling it or handing it down, don't waste the money. 

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As i said i will be buying the PC in july so about 7 months

 

I think it would be more sensible to just watch the news and look out for release dates. At this point, noone can give you a definitive answer.

 

 

I just want to add AMD cards have a similar thing to Shadow Play on AMD Evolved.

(it's buggy but existent)

 
Only that takes a big hit on performance, might aswell just use Win10 DVR at that point.
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by the end of july next gen gpus will be launched from both amd and nvidia, there's no point in planing your rig so far ahead

if you're buing it in july, then plan it in july as well

 

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inb4 the plethora of "r9-390" posts, pascal will not be out for quite some time. > half a year I believe.

 

As for the 970, i'll refer to this comment i made;

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/533899-r9-390-vs-gtx-970/page-4#entry7084736

 

 
 
Isn't polaris due for Q3 2016 or even 2017 aswell?

 

it will be aviable for purchase in time for "back-to-school" season

and so will pascal

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by the end of july next gen gpus will be launched from both amd and nvidia, there's no point in planing your rig so far ahead

if you're buing it in july, then plan it in july as well

 

#RAMGate

 

That is what I'm doing. My parents just want an estimated cost because my family will be giving me money!

MY RIG

I5 6600k

16gb Corsair vengeance 2666mhz

MSI Gaming X 1070

WD blue 2tb

samsung 850 evo 250gb

EVGA supernova G2 650w

 

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inb4 the plethora of "r9-390" posts, pascal will not be out for quite some time. > half a year I believe.

 

As for the 970, i'll refer to this comment i made;

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/533899-r9-390-vs-gtx-970/page-4#entry7084736

 

 
 
Isn't polaris due for Q3 2016 or even 2017 aswell?

 

Polaris is Q2 2016

Pascal is Q3 2016

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That is what I'm doing. My parents just want an estimated cost because my family will be giving me money!

Nobody can predict that

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it will be aviable for purchase in time for "back-to-school" season

and so will pascal

Not necessarily. Polaris already entered testing stage a while back and is nearing mass production. Pascal news is scarce

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That is what I'm doing. My parents just want an estimated cost because my family will be giving me money!

as for estimated cost yes it is good to estimate cost be the same as current gen

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Polaris then you get Async and Tesselation! :D

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Not necessarily. Polaris already entered testing stage a while back and is nearing mass production. Pascal news is scarce

even if it releases tomorrow it's still in time for "back-to-school" season which for American world would be  from mid-July to early/mid-September, right?

i've heard the pascal quadros are already shipping to some servers

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That is what I'm doing. My parents just want an estimated cost because my family will be giving me money!

better yet tell them you want the next gen Titan - because it will be the only card that Works with your School and you have to do homework on that

and when you get the Titan the rest of the PC doesn't really matter, right? lol

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last I saw we are months from any announcement so I'd buy.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

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even if it releases tomorrow it's still in time for "back-to-school" season which for American world would be  from mid-July to early/mid-September, right?

i've heard the pascal quadros are already shipping to some servers

Quadros are a different story. Nvidia can't even show a Pascal chip and presented 2 980 MXM modules as Pascal to the press to keep hype going. Mark my words Pascal is not ready and is being rushed out the door. We all know how that ends up usually

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Quadros are a different story. Nvidia can't even show a Pascal chip and presented 2 980 MXM modules as Pascal to the press to keep hype going. Mark my words Pascal is not ready and is being rushed out the door. We all know how that ends up usually

how does that end up?

are you talking about false specification relesed to press or the #RAMGate or are both of the the same? Or maybe are you talking about cracked dies on Fermi? What are you really talking about? Maybe Pascal is MXM rebrand?

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