MSI GTX 960 4GB or MSI R9 380?

[glitchmaster0001]

Hey, I have a VW! 68 FTW bahahahahaha!!!

This poor topic

Oh, and get a Vapor X 290.

not unless that 68 vw has a subaru sti engine in it with a turbo 

[SkilledRebuilds]

The MSI R9 290 mops the floor with any GTX 960. It's like asking Corvette vs Volkswagen.

Unless your on a highway with limited lanes and both are congested to the point of being the same speed.

Majestic's viewpoint being that the CPU won't provide ample resources to provide ample framerates according to what performance the GPU should be providing.

Both would be necked and not one gives an actual gain over another due to this scenario.

[App4that]

not unless that 68 vw has a subaru sti engine in it with a turbo

No joke There's a guy in our club that did that. First gear is useless lol

But yes the analogy is perfect. The 290 is in every way measurable better than the 960 4g

[glitchmaster0001]

Unless your on a highway with limited lanes and both are congested to the point of being the same speed.

Majestic's viewpoint being that the CPU won't provide ample resources to provide ample framerates according to what performance the GPU should be providing.

Both would be necked and not one gives an actual gain over another due to this scenario.

he is true in that it would create a huge bottleneck as ive already experienced it with a gtx 950. although next year ill be rebuilding my rig so that would effectively remove that bottleneck

[Majestic]

The MSI R9 290 mops the floor with any GTX 960. It's like asking Corvette vs Volkswagen.

 

VW Phaeton W12? Bad car analogy

 

now gone for realsies.

[App4that]

VW Phaeton W12? Bad car analogy

now gone for realsies.

Water cooled, not a VW. Purists reasons.

Is there a liquid cooled 290?

[glitchmaster0001]

No joke There's a guy in our club that did that. First gear is useless lol

But yes the analogy is perfect. The 290 is in every way measurable better than the 960 4g

lol my 95' tacoma when the motor dies im going to put either a JDM 1jz or a USDM LS1 with a turbo in there lol 

[alpenwasser]

Then what the hell are you doing moderating this forum if you can't spot such obviously bad advice. I'm sorry but that pisses me off serverely..

 

This would be literally like a cop seeing a mullah, armed with a AK-47 and a bomb-vest, angry demeanor on his face, enter a plane and going "I can't decide if I should stop him or not, if only I had better training!".

 

fk i'm going to bed, this forum man.

Well, I'm not the one making the rules, and the rule about us not moderating factual accuracy of content has been in place for as long as I can remember. There's a crapload of issues which arise with that (seriously, we've discussed this at length a few times, it's messy). You feel like that should be changed, PM Slick or another admin, they're the ones who make the rules around here. I'm just here to implement them.

Sleep well then.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Unless your on a highway with limited lanes and both are congested to the point of being the same speed.

Majestic's viewpoint being that the CPU won't provide ample resources to provide ample framerates according to what performance the GPU should be providing.

Both would be necked and not one gives an actual gain over another due to this scenario.

 

I didn't see he had such a weak cpu. His GTX 950 was an ideal match for it.  :lol:

[App4that]

I didn't see he had such a weak cpu. His GTX 950 was an ideal match for it. :lol:

Yes, but that doesn't change the 290 capabilities. Very subjective as to if the CPU or GPU should take priority in being upgraded. I went CPU myself.

[glitchmaster0001]

I didn't see he had such a weak cpu. His GTX 950 was an ideal match for it.  :lol:

not really, it bottlenecked in fallout 4 but i bought my 950 knowing that a bottleneck would occur. just bought it cuz the raw power it puts out can overcome even a non bottleneck system like say a AMD r7 240 with a phenom x4 9750

[Nena Trinity]

290 if your PSU will handle it!

[Majestic]

not really, it bottlenecked in fallout 4 but i bought my 950 knowing that a bottleneck would occur. just bought it cuz the raw power it puts out can overcome even a non bottleneck system like say a AMD r7 240 with a phenom x4 9750

 

That's not really how it works. An nvidia card would def. be more benficial for such an old CPU, like i said, try and get some GTX 660 from whatever second-hand market you have in your country. And wait until you can buy something decent.

 

A 280 or 290 would be bottlenecked severely, and by the time you upgrade that money would buy you a better GPU.

[don_svetlio]

That's not really how it works. An nvidia card would def. be more benficial for such an old CPU, like i said, try and get some GTX 660 from whatever second-hand market you have in your country. And wait until you can buy something decent.

 

A 280 or 290 would be bottlenecked severely, and by the time you upgrade that money would buy you a better GPU.

Bottleneck or no, it would still perform better as a 280 comes close to a 680. It would not make sense to buy a cheap card now and upgrade again when the CPU is upgraded - that's wasting money.

 

[don_svetlio]

I didn't see he had such a weak cpu. His GTX 950 was an ideal match for it.  :lol:

That Phenom is fine for a lot of GPU-bound games.

[Majestic]

Bottleneck or no, it would still perform better as a 280 comes close to a 680. It would not make sense to buy a cheap card now and upgrade again when the CPU is upgraded - that's wasting money.

 

 

No, buying a GPU that won't get saturated to any significant level for full retail price which will be serverely outperformed when he finally does upgrade is a waste of money.

 

That Phenom is fine for a lot of GPU-bound games.

 

It's equivalent to a 1820, which noone would consider to be anywhere near viable for gaming (atleast not at the settings you'd run a 290 at, to saturate it). You push out 100+ posts a day on average (19K over 6 months, do the math), and 95% of them are bad advice. Why don't you just find something else to do with your obviously excessive free time, instead of getting people to buy into terrible deals. You're seriously the worst on this forum, and noone has the spare time to follow you around all day, correcting your terrible advice.

[MEC-777]

Honestly, I can see both sides of the argument. However, given the time frame for when the OP will finally be able to upgrade to a suitable CPU/platform, it would have made more sense to stick with the 950 until then. By then there will be better GPUs for the money available. 

 

Using a 290 or 380 with that CPU for that length of time doesn't make sense, IMO. If the OP was planning to upgrade in the next few months, that's a different story. 

 

To the OP: Anyway you can get your 950 back?

[don_svetlio]

Honestly, I can see both sides of the argument. However, given the time frame for when the OP will finally be able to upgrade to a suitable CPU/platform, it would have made more sense to stick with the 950 until then. By then there will be better GPUs for the money available. 

 

Using a 290 or 380 with that CPU for that length of time doesn't make sense, IMO. If the OP was planning to upgrade in the next few months, that's a different story. 

 

To the OP: Anyway you can get your 950 back?

I'd digress. It's quite easy to max out a 290 with that GPU given the proper optimization. Look at Battlefront, for instance. It will easily saturate a 380 or 390 without running to an issue because of the CPU

Witcher 3 will also work fine considering people got it working with a dual-core Athlon II X2 chip a while back. It's not nearly as bad as it could be. Sure, an i5 750 outperforms it but it's still quite capable of getting more out of a 380 or 960 so as to surpass a 950.

[glitchmaster0001]

Honestly, I can see both sides of the argument. However, given the time frame for when the OP will finally be able to upgrade to a suitable CPU/platform, it would have made more sense to stick with the 950 until then. By then there will be better GPUs for the money available. 

 

Using a 290 or 380 with that CPU for that length of time doesn't make sense, IMO. If the OP was planning to upgrade in the next few months, that's a different story. 

 

To the OP: Anyway you can get your 950 back?

i still have my gtx 950 luckly my friend hasnt got enough money to buy it of me yet. in that case next year when i upgrade/rebuild my rig then should i buy another 950 for SLI?

btw i got the 950 as a Christmas gift just a month ago 

[MEC-777]

i still have my gtx 950 luckly my friend hasnt got enough money to buy it of me yet. in that case next year when i upgrade/rebuild my rig then should i buy another 950 for SLI?

btw i got the 950 as a Christmas gift just a month ago 

 

In that case, I would suggest keeping the 950 until you have a suitable CPU/platform to handle a much stronger GPU. 

 

It's not advisable to SLI lower-end cards like this. One single more powerful card will give you better performance and a better user experience than two less powerful cards. When the time comes, sell your 950 and use that money to put towards something much faster.

[Majestic]

Have you really run out of things to say that all you do is attempt to discredit people based on your own views? I feel sorry for you, cannot accept he is wrong therefore the world is wrong.

 

Yes, because you continue to perpetuate bullshit, regardless of what people say to you. I could write an essay explaining how wrong you are, but you would just respond with some passive-agressive reaction and then blame someone else for derailing the conversation. Saying it's ok to pair a R9-290 with a G1820 is fucking terrible advice, and you are terrible for continuing to persuade OP to make the step. You absolute. Shit. Poster.

 

@glitchmaster0001 Just keep that 950 until you can upgrade, and then just sell if off or whatever.

[don_svetlio]

Yes, because you continue to perpetuate bullshit, regardless of what people say to you. I could write an essay explaining how wrong you are, but you would just respond with some passive-agressive reaction and then blame someone else for derailing the conversation. Saying it's ok to pair a R9-290 with a G1820 is fucking terrible advice, and you are terrible for continuing to persuade OP to make the step. You absolute. Shit. Poster.

 

@glitchmaster0001 Just keep that 950 until you can upgrade, and then just sell if off or whatever.

High settings on a Q6600 + 960 - more or less similar. Where's the bottleneck you are so scared of?

[don_svetlio]

i still have my gtx 950 luckly my friend hasnt got enough money to buy it of me yet. in that case next year when i upgrade/rebuild my rig then should i buy another 950 for SLI?

btw i got the 950 as a Christmas gift just a month ago 

950 SLI is a terrible idea. You'd be limited by quite a few factors

[App4that]

High settings on a Q6600 + 960 - more or less similar. Where's the bottleneck you are so scared of?

 

 

Don't go the opposite direction and hide the problem, there's going to be a bottleneck. Unless you have the money to replace both that's unavoidable.

[don_svetlio]

Don't go the opposite direction and hide the problem, there's going to be a bottleneck. Unless you have the money to replace both that's unavoidable.

But it's not nearly as bad as he's making it out to be. For fucks sake, he will lose 10% off of his 380 tops and it's still 40% faster than a 950 >.<