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The "I hate this case" build

Trymon

I'd like to introduce my build to you and it was a big step from a AMD X2 4400+ with a GTX 480 to this setup.

But first I like to solve the question, why I hate the case. It's absolutely horrible for cable management.

 

Components:

 

  • Case: Cooler Master N400 Midi Tower (Fan at front and back)
  • Mainboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Professional Gaming i7
  • CPU: Intel Core i5 6500
  • CPU Cooler: box cooler. Doesn't look that good but is more than enough for this CPU
  • RAM: 4 x 4GB Crucial DDR4-2133
  • Graphics: KFA2 (Galax) GeForce GTX 960 Gamer OC Mini Black
  • Harddrive 1: Samsung 850 Evo 250 GB
  • Harddrive 2: Samsung 1 TB HDD (Already available from my old Laptop)
  • Soundcard: ASUS Xonar Essence STX (Already available from my old PC)
  • Powersupply: Enermax Platimax 600W (Already available from my old PC)
  • Additional Fan for top: Cooler Master Silencio FP 120
  • Additional Fan for left side: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition

For 1080p Gaming the GTX 960 is enough and if needed I could always buy a second card. But currently I'm more than satisfied.

 

For the Mainboard I had not that much options. ASRock was the only manufacturer with an reasonable price and dual LAN with two Intel cards. All other hat a combination of Intel and Atheros Killer or Intel and Realtek. I need two Intel cards to run them in teaming mode. Currently just not possible because Microsoft changed something and now Teaming is not possible with Windows 10.

 

Unfortunately there aren't that many pictures taken during the build. I have just a few from this time and now from today where I optimized the cable management with a lot of zip tie's.

 

UPS arrived and I was just happy

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Let's see what is in there. You might notice that the Board has the B150 Chipset. I replaced it 13 day's later to get the two LAN connector's

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Finished build 1st result

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Unfortunately not the ideal location for the PC but could be worse.

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Result of today's work trying to manage the cable as good as possible.

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I hope you like, or dislike, my little gaming machine. Not for high end 4K gaming but still gaming. 

The compromise between performance and price wasn't that bad.

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looks nice. Then again im just a FX-8350 user so i dont know.

 

My option:

It looks nice

AMD FX-8350|8GB DDR3|GTX750TI|2TB HDD|CX-430 PSU|

 

 

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Can we all just acknowledge the elephant in the room... YOUR PC IS RIGHT NEXT TO A RADIATOR!!!

DISPLAYS: LG 27UL500 IPS 4k60hz + HDR and LG 27GL650F IPS 1080p 144hz + HDR

 

LAPTOP: Lenovo Legion 5 CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800H GPU: RTX 3070 8GB RAM: 16GB 3200MHz (2x8GB DDR4) STORAGE: 1TB Crucial P5 NVMe SSD + 2TB Samsung 970 evo plus NVMe SSD DISPLAY: 1080p 165hz IPS OS: Windows 10 Pro x64

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What elephant? I let mice run around to prevent an elephant entering my room. :D

 

Yes I know but still the only location for the PC and I could keep it cool. Worse than the radiator is the summer. I'm curious how the summer will affect the cooling.

 

Current temperatures almost IDLE:

CPU: 29C / 84F

Mainboard: 31C / 87 F

Graphics: 37C / 98 F

 

The radiator doesn't anyway heat that much. It's pretty cool in the room but I like it that way. :D

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Can we all just acknowledge the elephant in the room... YOUR PC IS RIGHT NEXT TO A RADIATOR!!!

How can you say that, my PC is perfectly fine next to my radiator. However that is because I have my radiator turned off constantly and I use my PC as my radiator effectively. (It heats up my room very well)

My Rig:

Xeon E5 1680 V2 @ 4.5GHz - Asus Rampage IV Extreme X79 Mobo - 64GB DDR3 1600MHz - 8 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Low Profile - CAS 10-10-10-27 - AMD Radeon RX 6700XT Sapphire Pulse 12GB - DeepCool E-Shield E-ATX Tempered Glass Case - 1 x 1TB Crucial P1 NVMe SSD - BeQuiet Straight Power 11 850W Gold+ Quad rail - Fractal Design Celsius S36 & 6 x 120mm silent fans - Lenovo KBBH21 - Corsair Glaive RGB Pro - Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

 

Monitors - 3 x Acer Nitro 23.8" 1080p 75Hz IPS 1ms Freesync Panels = AMD Eyefinity @ 75Hz

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How can you say that, my PC is perfectly fine next to my radiator. However that is because I have my radiator turned off constantly and I use my PC as my radiator effectively. (It heats up my room very well)

Are you serious??? I hope your not? I get the point about the fact the rad can be turned off but if you use your pc as a way to heat up your room there is something seriously wrong with it/you...

DISPLAYS: LG 27UL500 IPS 4k60hz + HDR and LG 27GL650F IPS 1080p 144hz + HDR

 

LAPTOP: Lenovo Legion 5 CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800H GPU: RTX 3070 8GB RAM: 16GB 3200MHz (2x8GB DDR4) STORAGE: 1TB Crucial P5 NVMe SSD + 2TB Samsung 970 evo plus NVMe SSD DISPLAY: 1080p 165hz IPS OS: Windows 10 Pro x64

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Are you serious??? I hope your not? I get the point about the fact the rad can be turned off but if you use your pc as a way to heat up your room there is something seriously wrong with it/you...

Thanks m8, I get ur point too but I have a really bad case for airflow and so on. It only heats up the room because I have the side panel off constantly so that my GPU and CPU get more airflow than if the side panel was on, like I said, because of my bad airflow. I wanna upgrade my case soon though and have a lot to spend on it this time.

My Rig:

Xeon E5 1680 V2 @ 4.5GHz - Asus Rampage IV Extreme X79 Mobo - 64GB DDR3 1600MHz - 8 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Low Profile - CAS 10-10-10-27 - AMD Radeon RX 6700XT Sapphire Pulse 12GB - DeepCool E-Shield E-ATX Tempered Glass Case - 1 x 1TB Crucial P1 NVMe SSD - BeQuiet Straight Power 11 850W Gold+ Quad rail - Fractal Design Celsius S36 & 6 x 120mm silent fans - Lenovo KBBH21 - Corsair Glaive RGB Pro - Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

 

Monitors - 3 x Acer Nitro 23.8" 1080p 75Hz IPS 1ms Freesync Panels = AMD Eyefinity @ 75Hz

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Regarding any temperature concerns I've done a 10 Minute stress test of the CPU and the GPU.

Also the fan's are not spinning that high that it sound's like a starting jet.

 

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Power supply cables = snakes

 

other than that, good job on the build. 

Welcome to LTT! Feel free to PM me if you just wanna chat, I love conversation!

 

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Are you serious??? I hope your not? I get the point about the fact the rad can be turned off but if you use your pc as a way to heat up your room there is something seriously wrong with it/you...

i do the same thing. My house came with a new office put in. It has no heating device installed. I chose not to worry cause a pc with a hour of gaming will warm it up lol.
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Buy a dremel, a file, some sandpaper and paint. Cable management holes magically appear.

Done.

Finally this would be a reason to buy a Dremel. I'm searchin a long time for a good reason because I wanted one but had no real reason for one. :D

I will keep this idea in my mind even if I have to disassamble again the whole machine for this.

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Bought a useless sound card but uses stock intel cooler.

CONSOLE KILLER: Pentium III 700mhz . 512MB RAM . 3DFX VOODOO 3 SLi

 

 

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Bought a useless sound card but uses stock intel cooler.

 

He got the non-overclock processor. Wonder why he still got that Z170 though - are we looking at a possible future upgrade?

 

By the way I wouldn't buy sound cards anymore. I have an stereo that can take input from HDMI so yeah...

The Fruit Pie: Core i7-9700K ~ 2x Team Force Vulkan 16GB DDR4-3200 ~ Gigabyte Z390 UD ~ XFX RX 480 Reference 8GB ~ WD Black NVMe 1TB ~ WD Black 2TB ~ macOS Monterey amd64

The Warship: Core i7-10700K ~ 2x G.Skill 16GB DDR4-3200 ~ Asus ROG Strix Z490-G Gaming Wi-Fi ~ PNY RTX 3060 12GB LHR ~ Samsung PM981 1.92TB ~ Windows 11 Education amd64
The ThreadStripper: 2x Xeon E5-2696v2 ~ 8x Kingston KVR 16GB DDR3-1600 Registered ECC ~ Asus Z9PE-D16 ~ Sapphire RX 480 Reference 8GB ~ WD Black NVMe 1TB ~ Ubuntu Linux 20.04 amd64

The Question Mark? Core i9-11900K ~ 2x Corsair Vengence 16GB DDR4-3000 @ DDR4-2933 ~ MSI Z590-A Pro ~ Sapphire Nitro RX 580 8GB ~ Samsung PM981A 960GB ~ Windows 11 Education amd64
Home server: Xeon E3-1231v3 ~ 2x Samsung 8GB DDR3-1600 Unbuffered ECC ~ Asus P9D-M ~ nVidia Tesla K20X 6GB ~ Broadcom MegaRAID 9271-8iCC ~ Gigabyte 480GB SATA SSD ~ 8x Mixed HDD 2TB ~ 16x Mixed HDD 3TB ~ Proxmox VE amd64

Laptop 1: Dell Latitude 3500 ~ Core i7-8565U ~ NVS 130 ~ 2x Samsung 16GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM ~ Samsung 960 Pro 512GB ~ Samsung 850 Evo 1TB ~ Windows 11 Education amd64
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Are you serious??? I hope your not? I get the point about the fact the rad can be turned off but if you use your pc as a way to heat up your room there is something seriously wrong with it/you...

I mean, a PC produces lots of heat. Even Intel/Nvidia builds consume 400+W of power, the heat (energy) generated is just thrown out of the case. 

 

My PC consumes closer to 500W at full load, so it would heat up a small room pretty quickly. Not as fast as a radiator, but still pretty quick. 

I used to be quite active here.

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He got the non-overclock processor. Wonder why he still got that Z170 though - are we looking at a possible future upgrade?

 

By the way I wouldn't buy sound cards anymore. I have an stereo that can take input from HDMI so yeah...

dual lan. 

Silverstone FT-05: 8 Broadwell Xeon (6900k soon), Asus X99 A, Asus GTX 1070, 1tb Samsung 850 pro, NH-D15

 

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dual lan. 

 

I can get server-grade quad LAN cards fairly cheap now... And those cards are usually small enough not to obstruct the air path of graphics cards, so perfect for a spacer card between two cards in a SLI/Crossfire setup.

The Fruit Pie: Core i7-9700K ~ 2x Team Force Vulkan 16GB DDR4-3200 ~ Gigabyte Z390 UD ~ XFX RX 480 Reference 8GB ~ WD Black NVMe 1TB ~ WD Black 2TB ~ macOS Monterey amd64

The Warship: Core i7-10700K ~ 2x G.Skill 16GB DDR4-3200 ~ Asus ROG Strix Z490-G Gaming Wi-Fi ~ PNY RTX 3060 12GB LHR ~ Samsung PM981 1.92TB ~ Windows 11 Education amd64
The ThreadStripper: 2x Xeon E5-2696v2 ~ 8x Kingston KVR 16GB DDR3-1600 Registered ECC ~ Asus Z9PE-D16 ~ Sapphire RX 480 Reference 8GB ~ WD Black NVMe 1TB ~ Ubuntu Linux 20.04 amd64

The Question Mark? Core i9-11900K ~ 2x Corsair Vengence 16GB DDR4-3000 @ DDR4-2933 ~ MSI Z590-A Pro ~ Sapphire Nitro RX 580 8GB ~ Samsung PM981A 960GB ~ Windows 11 Education amd64
Home server: Xeon E3-1231v3 ~ 2x Samsung 8GB DDR3-1600 Unbuffered ECC ~ Asus P9D-M ~ nVidia Tesla K20X 6GB ~ Broadcom MegaRAID 9271-8iCC ~ Gigabyte 480GB SATA SSD ~ 8x Mixed HDD 2TB ~ 16x Mixed HDD 3TB ~ Proxmox VE amd64

Laptop 1: Dell Latitude 3500 ~ Core i7-8565U ~ NVS 130 ~ 2x Samsung 16GB DDR4-2400 SO-DIMM ~ Samsung 960 Pro 512GB ~ Samsung 850 Evo 1TB ~ Windows 11 Education amd64
Laptop 2: Apple MacBookPro9.2 ~ Core i5-3210M ~ 2x Samsung 8GB DDR3L-1600 SO-DIMM ~ Intel SSD 520 Series 480GB ~ macOS Catalina amd64

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Some interesting comments I have to answer.

 

Beginning with the Sound Card. As described I had this card already in my old PC. So this Card is a few Years old and even with this Board I need it. The reason is quite simple. I have Headphones with 600 Ohm impedance. Even if there are currently some boards which could handle such Headphones the ASRock couldn't and in the past there wasn't even one board which could. Also I could use the 1/4 inch jack and don't have to use an adapter from 1/4 to 1/8.

 

Now the reason why the ASRock with the Z170. I wrote this already in the starting post. The reason was once the dual lan, and to be specific I need two Intel cards to use LACP Teaming (if just Windows 10 wouldn't prevent me from using this).
The other reason is that I have the possibility for overclocking, with a different CPU, if I like to go this way in the future. Why should I prevent myself from some option?

 

The reason for the stock cooler was already answered. It is more than enough to cool the CPU. Even with a stress test I couldn't get it above 64C / 147F

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  • 3 weeks later...

I've done a small upgrade and almost it wasn't possible.

After I ordered the CPU cooler I checked the dimensions. Including the fans it is 162 mm high and after I realized this I got a small shock and checked the specs of the Tower. It supports CPU Cooler up to 164 mm. :D

 

Today I replaced the stock cooler with the Thermalright Macho X2.

The IDLE CPU temperature went down to 26°C and the Fans are standing still. So I reach this temperature with a passive CPU cooler.

 

This beast is dominating the whole case.

 

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Thank you but luckily I've checked the possibilities of magical appearing holes in this case and came to the conclusion: forget it. ;)

 

There is no space for holes. Sure I could make some holes, but they won't make any sense. I should have bought the N600. This case is slightly higher and has a way better cable management.

 

But I have already a Idea for a new case. The Phanteks evolv atx is a case I could fall in love with. ;)

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