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The Storinator 100TB Server Part 2

LOL before this even went from Vessel to YouTube, the raid controller already died and effed things up. Looking forward to Part 3, I guess. 

 

I hope data was not lost permanently.

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I CAN HANDLE IT

OFF TOPIC: I suggest every poll from now on to have "**CK EA" option instead of "Other"

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LOL before this even went from Vessel to YouTube, the raid controller already died and effed things up. Looking forward to Part 3, I guess. 

 

I hope data was not lost permanently.

Different server :P

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Different server :P

 

Oh, okay. Thinking it was the vault, had a minor heart attack when I saw Linus's picture, haha.

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unRAID :)

As a unraid pro I have to agree.

Never need to look past unraid for anything nas related. I run Windows 10 on unraid virtualised and you honest wouldnt be able to pick up on it.

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Yay

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i7 4790K / 16GB RAM \ 250GB SSD

 

 

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Hey Linus,

 

Congrats on joining the "actually 10gig" club !

 

It must feel so incredibly good to finally be able to saturate that sucker and finally get what you paid for (or worked for) and what is says on the tin.

 

Did you keep any notes on smb tuning that you can share ?

 

I kept going through your video frame by frame hoping I'd get a glimpse of your smb.conf or smbd flags, but other than a bunch of firefox tabs I got nothing (nice editing btw).

 

You mentioned smb tuning will be baked into an "upcoming release of unraid 6", any pointers to somewhere where we can track when those changes end up landing, e.g. a bug/issue number or something.

 

 

Thank you,

risk

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In the future I will laugh at this because I have this much RAM

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This is probably similar to what Gaben uses to store every steam game in existence for "personal testing"

It looks as if the peasants have risen up, and found swords!


But their sword's look a little short, if you know what I mean!


Good! The squires need training anyway!

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Hey Linus,

Congrats on joining the "actually 10gig" club !

It must feel so incredibly good to finally be able to saturate that sucker and finally get what you paid for (or worked for) and what is says on the tin.

Did you keep any notes on smb tuning that you can share ?

I kept going through your video frame by frame hoping I'd get a glimpse of your smb.conf or smbd flags, but other than a bunch of firefox tabs I got nothing (nice editing btw).

You mentioned smb tuning will be baked into an "upcoming release of unraid 6", any pointers to somewhere where we can track when those changes end up landing, e.g. a bug/issue number or something.

Thank you,

risk

I don't think it's going to make it in 6.2 but 6.3 for sure.

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Care to share the config layout? Or is that classified?

Not classified. Using the "array" pool with btrfs file system and two parity drives.

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Not classified. Using the "array" pool with btrfs file system and two parity drives.

 

For what it's worth, I have a Melanox 10Gb card in an i7 4790k desktop and a Chelsio 10Gb card in an i3 4140 FreeNAS server with a 11x2TB Z2 vdev. I'm getting between 780 - 820 MB/s transfers using using SMB with ZERO optimization, didn't even enable jumbo frames.

 

Maybe something else amiss in your configuration that you didn't notice?

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What next?

Use 128 GBs of RAM as temperory storage :D?

Then the 128GBs of ram to be the pre pre ssd server for even more speeeds.

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The freenas problem is the SMB protocol.  It is sad that you found the forums snarky.  However while speeding up data to the workstations over smb would be a problem speeding up between the ssd server and the nas could happen by simply switching the protocol between the servers to nfs.  I do a lot of enterprise work in a mixed environment and there is a lot of unix on the back end serving windows and mac clients.  We use nfs a lot between the servers it is very capable without tuning of saturating 10gb links and does not tax the processors.  If linus media group is going to use unix variants on the backend (free nas, lime tech, ubuntu, etc...) you might want to think about how servers and nas systems communicate and how clients communicate and change protocols to match both.  If user machines are windows SMB is you only choice.  But consider having all your servers talk on a more efficient protocol like nfs or iscsi (though iscsi is a pain), you will be surprised how much faster the data moves.

 

In the end we all have hopes the larger open source community will get SMB to speed up but that who knows when and if that will happen.

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When looking at this configuration did you have over 25 drives? How did you move past the limit in unraid? Is this due to the version you are currently running?

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On 17/12/2015 at 6:18 PM, LinusTech said:

Not classified. Using the "array" pool with btrfs file system and two parity drives.

Could you share your Samba server settings smb.conf file for this setup ?

 

I found a few settings on the Windows registry that worth playing with for the client side of Samba here :

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn567661%28v=vs.85%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396#smbperftuning

 

the samba manpage for smb.conf also look full of usefull options :

https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html
 

There is also this "confession of a 10GbE newbi" guide :

http://www.cinevate.com/blog/confessions-of-a-10-gbe-network-newbie-part-1-basics/

 

On the latter link, my personnal experience is that increasing the receive buffer is not such a good idea (at least on our 2 X520-DA2 and 2 X710-DA4 card hooked trough a used Arista 7124S grapped for almost nothing on ebay)

 

Anyway, those 10 GbE things are interesting more and more people and I hope you'll give more and more videos on that particular subject.

 

As for testing the link speed and sort out if it's the NIC, the drives, the software, etc... you can also use one of the reference tools for that call iperf :

 

https://iperf.fr/

 

This will easily let you sort out the pure network part of the performances ! once you know network is Ok, you can focus on the Samba / Drives / Filesystems

 

Best regards !

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