more women than men get motion sickness with Occulus Rift

[ChineseChef]

"Stoffregen said developers have a responsibility to create a device compatible with either sex."

 

That line is one of those scary thoughts that sounds great on paper but has potentially huge pitfalls.  Like others have said, women get seasickness more than men.  This sounds like physical inner ear differences and spatial awareness.  Likely from all those years of hunting in the wilds and fighting wars and such, maybe even all that sailing and fishing. 

 

This may be unsolvable short of individual surgery (of which there is currently no options medically).

 

Also, just out of curiosity, why do developers have an obligation to do this?  Why is it their responsibility?  Are we going to just come out and say there are no physical differences between the sexes?  Maybe we could just ignore reality harder, and that would make it work better for women?

[GoldSrc]

Question, do women also get more car-sick than men?

[ChineseChef]

Question, do women also get more car-sick than men?

 

Just did some quick research, most sources seem to agree that roughly 4x more women than men get motion sickness in any/all forms.

[GoldSrc]

Just did some quick research, most sources seem to agree that roughly 4x more women than men get motion sickness in any/all forms.

Yeah, I thought that this was nothing new, the bad thing about this though, is that SJWs will get more fuel for their crap.

[Admiral Naismith]

Stoffregen said developers have a responsibility to create a device compatible with either sex.
 
“When we get into interactive technologies in general and things like the Oculus Rift in particular, you can no longer say ‘Oh, too bad,’ because we made it,” Stoffregen said.

 

Is this suggesting that Oculus wouldn't give a sh*t about it's female audience? Because that's what it seems...

I think even if Oculus didn't already know this, it wasn't because they just decided to ignore females but more that whatever improves motion sickness for one gender probably improves it for the other.

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Is this suggesting that Oculus wouldn't give a sh*t about it's female audience? Because that's what it seems...

I think even if Oculus didn't already know this, it wasn't because they just decided to ignore females but more that whatever improves motion sickness for one gender probably improves it for the other.

Yeah if women really do experience it more than men, I don't think anything is going to be able to change that ratio.  Best they could do is work on it until everyone feels less motion sickness.

[ChineseChef]

Is this suggesting that Oculus wouldn't give a sh*t about it's female audience? Because that's what it seems...

I think even if Oculus didn't already know this, it wasn't because they just decided to ignore females but more that whatever improves motion sickness for one gender probably improves it for the other.

 

 

Yeah if women really do experience it more than men, I don't think anything is going to be able to change that ratio.  Best they could do is work on it until everyone feels less motion sickness.

 

Really this seems like a problem that can't be resolved until the overlying issue is resolved.  Think of things like 3D, there are lots of people that can't see it (no depth perception) or can't enjoy it (headaches/migraines/nausea in less time than the movie/show).  And these issue can't be fixed with the technology for some, for others it will take nothing short of star trek level holodeck to resolve the issues. 

 

Motion sickness is likely going to be one of these kinds of issues.  We still aren't even sure what the root medical cause of motion sickness is.  And the cures we have are kind of barbaric; you can cure motion sickness by basically sitting in one of the spiny machines that makes you sick for a few days straight until your body essentially shuts off the mechanisms that cause your motion sickness.  But this doesn't work for everyone and not many people are willing to get sick for a few days (think 8-10 hour days of just heaving), just to not get motion sickness.  Or they simply don't have access to that type of equipment for it. 

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Really this seems like a problem that can't be resolved until the overlying issue is resolved.  Think of things like 3D, there are lots of people that can't see it (no depth perception) or can't enjoy it (headaches/migraines/nausea in less time than the movie/show).  And these issue can't be fixed with the technology for some, for others it will take nothing short of star trek level holodeck to resolve the issues. 

 

Motion sickness is likely going to be one of these kinds of issues.  We still aren't even sure what the root medical cause of motion sickness is.  And the cures we have are kind of barbaric; you can cure motion sickness by basically sitting in one of the spiny machines that makes you sick for a few days straight until your body essentially shuts off the mechanisms that cause your motion sickness.  But this doesn't work for everyone and not many people are willing to get sick for a few days (think 8-10 hour days of just heaving), just to not get motion sickness.  Or they simply don't have access to that type of equipment for it. 

Well, there's also Gravol... 

[ChineseChef]

Well, there's also Gravol... 

 

Well, there are plenty of ways to deal with it temporarily, I personally use ginger root pills, placebo or not it works for me.  But these don't actually cure it.  The spin you till you don't puke any more method actually cures you. 

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Well, there are plenty of ways to deal with it temporarily, I personally use ginger root pills, placebo or not it works for me.  But these don't actually cure it.  The spin you till you don't puke any more method actually cures you. 

oh cool, didn't know that.  If I had that problem, I would definitely do 2 days of suffering for a lifetime free of problems!

[ivan134]

What does this have to do with feminism? You people are just as bad as the people you're "making fun of."

[ChineseChef]

oh cool, didn't know that.  If I had that problem, I would definitely do 2 days of suffering for a lifetime free of problems!

 

I learned about it from a USAF flight doc.  He said that sometimes pilots would find out they got airsick when they first flew jets.  So, they gave them the option of spin till you don't get sick, or find a different job.  Wasn't common due to the initial screening getting most people, and most people who want to fly jets have flown enough to find out they get sick.  But I haven't really ever found anywhere that would do it, or I too would totally go spin and puke till I didn't get sick anymore. 

[Prysin]

I was about to say "Why would the SJWs freak out about this?" but then I remembered they would do that for just about anything...

to be honest... iv'e heard more women then men bitch about the 3D solution they use in IMAX cinemas too.

may be a genetic thing. may be a mental thing. most likely a bit of both.

also, according to occulus, you are supposed to gradually use the headset (sessions of 15 minutes over several days) to get accustomed to it.

I am willing to bet this test NEVER EVER did follow occuluses manual. Instead tehy just slammed the VR headset onto a few people and asked them to play.

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I am willing to bet this test NEVER EVER did follow occuluses manual. Instead tehy just slammed the VR headset onto a few people and asked them to play.

 lol that's what I'd do

[Bensemus]

to be honest... iv'e heard more women then men bitch about the 3D solution they use in IMAX cinemas too.

may be a genetic thing. may be a mental thing. most likely a bit of both.

also, according to occulus, you are supposed to gradually use the headset (sessions of 15 minutes over several days) to get accustomed to it.

I am willing to bet this test NEVER EVER did follow occuluses manual. Instead tehy just slammed the VR headset onto a few people and asked them to play.

its still valid way to see if the genders differ in their ability to handle VR. I would assume it would scale so if all the participants followed the instructions they would still end up with the same ratio, just fewer overall. The fact that it's known that slightly more women get seasick points to something more ingrained in us humans.

[Trik'Stari]

Oh boy. Another excuse for SJW's to get angry over the FACT that there are physical differences between males and females.

[Albatross]

Oh boy. Another excuse for SJW's to get angry over the FACT that there are physical differences between males and females.

 

 

 

I mean no matter how hard you try to make it happen or how hard you ignore it, the simple fact is that men and women are different.

[Pesmerga]

I get extremely motion sick quite easily, am I a woman?

 

On the serious side: I wonder how many seconds I would last with a VR device, I had troubles completing "The talos principle" 'cause I'd get motion sick and needed to lay down for quite a bit :c

[theereal]

What does this have to do with feminism? You people are just as bad as the people you're "making fun of."

Were not laughing about feminists, I am all for equal pay for equal work, gender equality etc... Were laughing at femenazis, like Anita, who basically say that all men are pigs etc...

[ivan134]

Were not laughing about feminists, I am all for equal pay for equal work, gender equality etc... Were laughing at femenazis, like Anita, who basically say that all men are pigs etc...

Uhhh, why? They inject sexism where it doesnt exist and you're injecting them into something that's not even related to them. What exactly makes you better than them?

[theereal]

Uhhh, why? They inject sexism where it doesnt exist and you're injecting them into something that's not even related to them. What exactly makes you better than them?

What? Im not talking about feminists...

[RagnarokDel]

Very interesting... I wonder why that is?

I'm not an expert but a lot of male kids play in team sports where spatial awareness is important. While it's slowly changing, I doubt it's reached parity yet.