zen at 16nm not 14nm? tsmc, not globalfoundries

[fade2green514]

http://wccftech.com/amd-contracts-tsmc-produce-zen-16nm-woes-14nm-process-troubles-globalfoundries/#ixzz3mgzE7C88

AMD has allegedly decided to delegate the responsibility of producing its hotly anticipated Zen CPU chips to TSMC on its 16nm FinFET process. This development has allegedly unfolded amidst AMD fears of Globalfoundries’ slow 14nm FinFET yield and capacity progress. And while these claims do seem plausible I should still provide a note of caution as this is very much a rumor at this moment in time and as such was tagged accordingly.

sorry mobile won't let me put quotes in.

I don't personally believe it as 16nm is probably for a gpu advancement, not for a cpu architecture. but, I could be wrong.

[Clyne]

Well it took some time for Intel to release 14nm.....so i guess AMD doesn't want to wait that long to release Zen before the next gen Intel CPUs come out.

[Berkut99]

16nm and 14nm are for all intents and purposes the exact same thing. What matters is the scaling percentage here, not the raw number. AMD is cutting their node size in half, so they're very much on track.

[KemoKa]

I don't think a couple of nanometers really makes all that much difference. Die shrinks alone don't increase performance, and 2nm difference is going to have negligible impact on power consumption.

[fade2green514]

I don't think a couple of nanometers really makes all that much difference. Die shrinks alone don't increase performance, and 2nm difference is going to have negligible impact on power consumption.

shouldnt impact performance but sometimes die shrinks do... because, they can sometimes fit more transistors. but, its all dependent on architecture and how the cpu is put together.

 

either way, cant wait for zen.

[CTR640]

Slowpoke Foundries

[themaniac]

i say they should take their time and make the best they can make

[patrickjp93]

For those arguing node sizes... https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/content/3884-who-will-lead-10nm.html

 

For all intents and purposes, TSMC 16nm = Samsung/GloFo 14nm in density. Both use 20nm BEOL to make the transition easier at the cost of some lost density. The only real 14nm node currently is Intel's. That said, let's wait to see how the chips turn out.

[qwertywarrior]

pepsi not cola ?!?!??!

[Clyne]

i say they should take their time and make the best they can make

If it's too late then lakes in the kaby/lakes in the cannon would take over the entire CPU market.....nobody wants Vishera....

[Doobeedoo]

Hopefully they manage to bring a great CPU that can compete on high end. I really want to see prices go down and hopefully bring 8-cores to reasonable price.