Best nVidia GPU to pair with a G3258

[Shoob]

People here are giving OP better cards in the price range. The thing is that the 960 is not worth buying in almost all cases and you are spreading false claims that it consumes way more power and it's gonna burn his house. Also GPU manufacturers tend to overdo the whole power requirement thing because a lot of people are running sketchy power supplies. In reality the R9 380 consumes near the same power as GTX 960 and it's just better.

[dougdangger]

The R9 380 isn't the "better buy" compared to the GTX 960.

 

The 380 costs about 20% more than the 960 yet only squeezes out 2-3 frames more than the 960.

A slight over clock on the 960 will easily close that tiny gap, for free.

The 380 is a failed re-badge.

[Hieb]

inno3d 960 if you have the money then. 

 

IMO you should look into a 280x or 380 though, usually cost the same and perform better, but if you don't want it then w/e

 

However in any games where the CPU can easily become the bottleneck (for example GTA V) AMD cards will perform worse than their Nvidia counterparts due to the higher CPU overhead... whether this is an issue will depend on the games youre playing at and the clock speed of the G3258

[Hieb]

Bullshit, even Radeon manufacturers require 500 watts.

https://www.visiontek.com/graphics-cards/visiontek-radeon-r9-380-detail.html#system-requirements

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5462#sp

 

If you think that you can drive around a Corvette on Prius tires, then yeah, go right ahead.   :lol:

 

PSU requirements provided by manufacturers are really inaccurate. They're significantly overestimated to account for people who have crap no-name brand PSUs that can't reliably provide their advertised wattage, and for people who have unusually high power requirements from all the other components of their system... like perhaps an FX 9590 or something along those lines.

 

For example the GTX 680 is advertised as requiring a 550W PSU minimum... but you can easily run it on any half-decent 450W PSU. Hell some 450W PSUs are capable of running the likes of a GTX 980 Ti as long as they're good quality.

[NeatSquidYT]

960 if you have the money. @NeatSquidYT has his with a 970. But please get an R9 380 or 280x. They both beat the 960 by a good margin. Also if you get a G3258 you ARE GETTING it because if the upgrade path. People use the pentium for two things. A place holder cpu until they cluld get sn i5/i7 or to practice over clocking.

I do indeed, and I did indeed buy it as an upgrade path.

[Shoob]

The R9 380 isn't the "better buy" compared to the GTX 960.

 

The 380 costs about 20% more than the 960 yet only squeezes out 2-3 frames more than the 960.

 

A slight over clock on the 960 will easily close that tiny gap, for free.

The 380 is a failed re-badge.

20% more? What?!?

 

4GB variants:

SAPPHIRE NITRO Radeon R9 380 - $209.99 - regular price

EVGA GeForce GTX 960 - $229.99 - on sale

 

2GB and a direct comparison between MSI products with TwinFrozr V:

MSI Radeon R9 380 GAMING 2G - $209.99 - regular price

MSI GeForce GTX 960 GAMING 2G - $214.99 - on sale

 

 

As you can see the 4GB variant of the 380 is $20 cheaper and the 2GB variant - $5, but we can accept that they cost the same.

 

 

The performance difference is up to 7-8 FPS. In most games the 380 pulls ahead and the only time when 960 manages to achieve better performance is within 1-2 FPS.

The 380 can be overclocked too and it can pull ahead even more, "for free".

Rebadge is 7970 GE -> 280x because it doesn't improve anything. R9 380 is a refresh of the 285 because it has increased memory speed and higher core clock.

 

If continue arguing and denying obvious facts you are a troll or a fanboy and I'll quit wasting my time.

[DarkBlade2117]

The R9 380 isn't the "better buy" compared to the GTX 960.

 

The 380 costs about 20% more than the 960 yet only squeezes out 2-3 frames more than the 960.

A slight over clock on the 960 will easily close that tiny gap, for free.

The 380 is a failed re-badge.

I like how you picked a game,optimized for nVidia .

[Noyu]

WHAT?! I was not ready for this.. Ok. I skipped some of the replies because they're almost the same with the others and some are just rants.

960 if you have the money. @NeatSquidYT has his with a 970. But please get an R9 380 or 280x. They both beat the 960 by a good margin. Also if you get a G3258 you ARE GETTING it because if the upgrade path. People use the pentium for two things. A place holder cpu until they cluld get sn i5/i7 or to practice over clocking.

This is it.. I can't set it as an upgrade path because I will be buying a shitty MoBo (ASUS H81m-D Plus).. I just need to get a taste of OCing and G3258 is the safest procie I can break because it's so cheap and has a big OC margin.

Not everyone cares only about performance, there are other factors to consider like the software environment and power consumption and heat output. Caring about more than performance does not make you a fanboy.

Nope, I'm definitely a fanboy sir. I like the nVidia that's it. I have alot of AMD experience with laptops, they all burnt out. So no, I am not risking that on my PC. Yes I know laptop =/= PC. But still.

HOWEVER, since alot of you suggested the red team, I will check.. I will update the original post for the pricing in a few shakes..

[Noyu]

How about 3GB of 384bit VRAM?

Thank you my good sir, will consider this.

Updated the original post with pricelist.

After seeing the comments and checking the pricelist, I think it goes down to, unless prices for the 950s go lower.

 

Inno3D GTX960 2GB Herculez X2 OC    vs.    Powercolor R9 280x TurboDuo 3GB (on sale)

 

Pretty sure EVERYBODY'S gonna suggest the 280x.

[Wufflez]

Thank you my good sir, will consider this.

Updated the original post with pricelist.

After seeing the comments and checking the pricelist, I think it goes down to, unless prices for the 950s go lower.

 

Inno3D GTX960 2GB Herculez X2 OC    vs.    Powercolor R9 280x TurboDuo 3GB (on sale)

 

Pretty sure EVERYBODY'S gonna suggest the 280x.

Of course the 280x. It's better in every way except heat output and power draw as long as you have a quality PSU with enough wattage then you're good. I've used a 280x for a few months and was impressed by it.

[Noyu]

Of course the 280x. It's better in every way except heat output and power draw as long as you have a quality PSU with enough wattage then you're good. I've used a 280x for a few months and was impressed by it.

This is what I'm afraid of.

I will have a Seasonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze.

That enough? (Along with an OC'd G3258, an AIO, and about 6 fans)

[miagisan]

520w is fine. With my oc fx6300 and 280x I pull about 480w

[Noyu]

520w is fine. With my oc fx6300 and 280x I pull about 480w

Oh okay that's Nice. Thanks.

 

I'm still not convinced by the 280x though. Heat MAY BE a problem. The TDP on this monster is 2x than that of the 960. but what would I know, this is pretty much my first build.

[Shoob]

 I'd suggest getting a R9 380 if you can find one within your budget - it's more efficient, cooler, runs tessellation better and it has better DX12 support, because it's GCN 1.2 (higher feature level and 8 ACEs). It's a little weaker than the 280x in raw performance but in some games which are heavy in tessellation it manages to surpass it. If you can find cheap R9 285 it's also a good option - it's based on the same Tonga GPU with lower core and memory clock compared to the R9 380.

 

The TurboDuo isn't one of the best coolers in the market so you might have heat and noise issues if you live in a hot environment. As for power consumption, I run my 280X with a not so good 550W PSU without any issues.

 

 

Mine is R9 280X DC2T and based on this chart the TurboDuo is 4 degrees hotter @ 39% fan speed. My 280X in hot summer days (30-35°C outside and 26-27°C room temperature) in the Witcher 3 it runs at around 75-76°C so the TurboDuo may run hotter. My airflow isn't the best though, I have my Define R4 in stock configuration (1x140mm front intake and 1x140mm rear exhaust). It's just something to keep in mind if you are going to get this card and you live in a hot environment.

[Noyu]

 I'd suggest getting a R9 380 if you can find one within your budget - it's more efficient, cooler, runs tessellation better and it has better DX12 support, because it's GCN 1.2 (higher feature level and 8 ACEs). It's a little weaker than the 280x in raw performance but in some games which are heavy in tessellation it manages to surpass it. If you can find cheap R9 285 it's also a good option - it's based on the same Tonga GPU with lower core and memory clock compared to the R9 380.

 

The TurboDuo isn't one of the best coolers in the market so you might have heat and noise issues if you live in a hot environment. As for power consumption, I run my 280X with a not so good 550W PSU without any issues.

 

 

Mine is R9 280X DC2T and based on this chart the TurboDuo is 4 degrees hotter @ 39% fan speed. My 280X in hot summer days (30-35°C outside and 26-27°C room temperature) in the Witcher 3 it runs at around 75-76°C so the TurboDuo may run hotter. My airflow isn't the best though, I have my Define R4 in stock configuration (1x140mm front intake and 1x140mm rear exhaust). It's just something to keep in mind if you are going to get this card and you live in a hot environment.

mmm after seeing this and then some,

 

At the current 8999PhP price point, I'm gonna go with a 2GB GTX 960. It's simply the safer choice for me,

BUT just in case R9 380 prices drop (please drop) or at least if I get more budget, I'm gonna go with a 4GB R9 380.

 

Any objections?

[Shoob]

If the GTX 960 is much cheaper, then it's ok to buy it. Just get one with a good cooler and overclock it. Did you check for R9 285?

[Noyu]

If the GTX 960 is much cheaper, then it's ok to buy it. Just get one with a good cooler and overclock it. Did you check for R9 285?

hmm. I feel like there's not much stocks of AMD products here. Can't find brand new 285s on my trusty shops.

 

Only ones I can find are 2GB pre-owned. And as far as my interpretation goes, GTX 960 would have a slight upper hand if we're talking 2GB VRAM.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Why even bother with the gpu if this build is just for practise?

[dougdangger]

I like how you picked a game,optimized for nVidia .

It's really AMD's fault for their lack of involvement with developers 

[DarkBlade2117]

It's really AMD's fault for their lack of involvement with developers 

Now what about every other game? No one plays one single game. Digital Foundry has so,e good benchmarks, a 380 and 280x beat a 960 in nearly every game. Its a better card all around.

[CapricaBuccaneers]

Honestly, just get the cheapest 750Ti and put the ~3000PhP towards a decent graphics card in your next build.

There's such a huge performance gap between the 960/380 and the 970/390 it's really hard to recommend anyone buy the former.

You're already heavily limited by the Pentium G3258, you should cut your losses now.

[Lethal Seraph]

960

[dougdangger]

Now what about every other game? No one plays one single game. Digital Foundry has so,e good benchmarks, a 380 and 280x beat a 960 in nearly every game. Its a better card all around.

I didn't say the 960 beats the AMD duos.  However, I'm willing to sacrifice 2-3 fps to get a cooler, more stable card, with better driver support (specially during AAA title releases) and physx.

[Noyu]

Why even bother with the gpu if this build is just for practise?

Please if you don't have anything constructive to say, dont say it.

Honestly, just get the cheapest 750Ti and put the ~3000PhP towards a decent graphics card in your next build.

There's such a huge performance gap between the 960/380 and the 970/390 it's really hard to recommend anyone buy the former.

You're already heavily limited by the Pentium G3258, you should cut your losses now.

No point saving for a next build. as i will be rich as balls then (not rly but you get what i mean)

Now you have my interest, am I really that limited by the g3258? coz everybody else is suggesting the mid-level cards. this is a legit question.

I didn't say the 960 beats the AMD duos.  However, I'm willing to sacrifice 2-3 fps to get a cooler, more stable card, with better driver support (specially during AAA title releases) and physx.

+99999

[Noyu]

Updated original post with "games to be played."

I'll kopipasta it here:

"Games to be played (on 1080p):
LoL & HotS most of the time

And then some OLD single player games. e,g. PoP series, AC series, BioShock series, and etc..

Most probably the heaviest game would be Skyrim.

I'm pretty sure I don't need a stronger CPU to play these games.

Soo 60fps Skyrim. 960 vs 950 vs 750Ti vs Red Team"