So I've had this idea.

Finn the Potato · September 3, 2015

Instead of an FX-8350, I could go with the A10-7870K, with an R9 390X. My whole idea is that what will happen, is better single core performance. You see, the FX-8350 is running at 4.0ghz with 8 cores. However, the 7870K, is running at 3.9ghz with 4 cores, therefore possibly meaning better single core performance? Am I correct?

AlwaysFSX · September 3, 2015

*sigh* And how on Earth did you come to this conclusion?

Castdeath97 · September 3, 2015

Nope, MOAR clock speed =/= MOAR performance.

alexhelvetica · September 3, 2015

????

I am lost

Finn the Potato · September 3, 2015

*sigh* And how on Earth did you come to this conclusion?

Because I'm a potato. And I could probs fit in a better GPU with that.

AlwaysFSX · September 3, 2015

Because I'm a potato. And I could probs fit in a better GPU with that.

Okay well this isn't quite how it works.

alexhelvetica · September 3, 2015

minibois · September 3, 2015

Instead of an FX-8350, I could go with the A10-7870K, with an R9 390X. My whole idea is that what will happen, is better single core performance. You see, the FX-8350 is running at 4.0ghz with 8 cores. However, the 7870K, is running at 3.9ghz with 4 cores, therefore possibly meaning better single core performance? Am I correct?

Nop. both will bottleneck the GPU. One more than the other depending on the game and its use of cores

Go with Intel, like the i5 4460 or something

German_John · September 3, 2015

Pretty sure the single core performance will be about the same. If you can allocate the savings to the GPU or something else and don't need eight cores, go with the quad core, but the octa core is, asfar as I can tell, superior to the quad core in pretty much every way.

Naeaes · September 3, 2015

In real world it's not that simple but in benchmarks 8350 beats the 7870K by a small margin.

Finn the Potato · September 3, 2015

Ok, I've figured out that was a stupid idea. I've just relized that core clock only includes one core. Therefore, came up with this beast

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($245.00 @ Centre Com)

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X31 69.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.00 @ CPL Online)

Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($145.00 @ Umart)

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($149.00 @ Umart)

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($72.00 @ Centre Com)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Centre Com)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($499.00 @ Centre Com)

Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($82.98 @ Mwave Australia)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.00 @ Umart)

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($17.00 @ IJK)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($129.00 @ PCCaseGear)

Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.00 @ CPL Online)

Total: $1703.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-03 19:23 AEST+1000

Finn the Potato · September 3, 2015

What do you think of the above? I don't really want to go with the i5 4460 as I'll be overclocking.

Sauron · September 3, 2015

So, the apu has half the cores and a lower clock speed. How does that lead you to thinking it will have better performance? If you want a gaming pc, buy a core i5.

Ok, I've figured out that was a stupid idea. I've just relized that core clock only includes one core. Therefore, came up with this beast

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($245.00 @ Centre Com)

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X31 69.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.00 @ CPL Online)

Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($145.00 @ Umart)

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($149.00 @ Umart)

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($72.00 @ Centre Com)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Centre Com)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($499.00 @ Centre Com)

Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($82.98 @ Mwave Australia)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.00 @ Umart)

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($17.00 @ IJK)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($129.00 @ PCCaseGear)

Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.00 @ CPL Online)

Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.00 @ CPL Online)

Total: $1703.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-03 19:23 AEST+1000

That ssd is the worst you can buy. Also, get an i5 4690k and a z97 motherboard.

Finn the Potato · September 3, 2015

So, the apu has half the cores and a lower clock speed. How does that lead you to thinking it will have better performance? If you want a gaming pc, buy a core i5.

That ssd is the worst you can buy. Also, get an i5 4690k and a z97 motherboard.

I've heard it's all bias. And there is a boot up time youtube video, which shows it booting very fast.

I can't as this is at the top of my $1750 budget. If you could fit that in with the red color scheme, sure. But I'm quite fussy and even brown PCBs turn me off motherboards. I only buy ones with fully black PCBs.

mikat · September 3, 2015

Instead of an FX-8350, I could go with the A10-7870K, with an R9 390X. My whole idea is that what will happen, is better single core performance. You see, the FX-8350 is running at 4.0ghz with 8 cores. However, the 7870K, is running at 3.9ghz with 4 cores, therefore possibly meaning better single core performance? Am I correct?

so you're saying that 4 < 3,9 ?

mikat · September 3, 2015

Ok, I've figured out that was a stupid idea. I've just relized that core clock only includes one core. Therefore, came up with this beast

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($245.00 @ Centre Com)

CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X31 69.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.00 @ CPL Online)

Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($145.00 @ Umart)

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Red 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($149.00 @ Umart)

Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($72.00 @ Centre Com)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Centre Com)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($499.00 @ Centre Com)

Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($82.98 @ Mwave Australia)

Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.00 @ Umart)

Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($17.00 @ IJK)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($129.00 @ PCCaseGear)

Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.00 @ CPL Online)

Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Red 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan ($19.00 @ CPL Online)

Total: $1703.98

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-03 19:23 AEST+1000

Kingston V300? no thanks.. get the samsung 850 evo or crucial BX100, both great ssds, i get 500 read 400 write i think on my 250 gb BX100

Finn the Potato · September 3, 2015

so you're saying that 4 < 3,9 ?

I've figured out my mistake. Please try to keep up to date with my threads before posting.

German_John · September 3, 2015

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($129.00 @ PCCaseGear)

Look if you can get Windows 7 cheaper, due to the free upgrade to Windows 10 it's basically irrelevant at this point. I got mine for €24 in Germany, and an OEM for that much money is just kind of an outrage.

Also, at this price point, I'd heavily suggest an i5 as well.

Also also, your cooler is a bit overkill.

ShadowCaptain · September 3, 2015

What do you think of the above? I don't really want to go with the i5 4460 as I'll be overclocking.

Overclocking is not the be and end all of performance

the 4460 will perform better than an OCed 8350... overclocking does not magically make something bad good, its just a way to eek out an extra few % of performance

mikat · September 3, 2015

I've figured out my mistake. Please try to keep up to date with my threads before posting.

i dont see where but i think this discussion ends right now

Finn the Potato · September 3, 2015

Kingston V300? no thanks.. get the samsung 850 evo or crucial BX100, both great ssds, i get 500 read 400 write i think on my 250 gb BX100

This is sadly the best I can get. I'll see how much it comes to with those though. I'll see if I could manage to fit them in.

mikat · September 3, 2015

Look if you can get Windows 7 cheaper, due to the free upgrade to Windows 10 it's basically irrelevant at this point. I got mine for €24 in Germany, and an OEM for that much money is just kind of an outrage.

Also, at this price point, I'd heavily suggest an i5 as well.

Also also, your cooler is a bit overkill.

https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoftsoftwareswap/