Windows 10 will be "rolling out in waves", not everyone will get it on launch date

[Bouzoo]

Oh lol I thought it was June 29 all this time. Why must these months with nearly the same name be stuck together?

Because reasons. I though you saw the pic and thought "Oh wait, I'm an insider and I don't have that, why do they have it?" sort of stuff. You know, common sense.  :lol:

[Notional]

I still get the "your report is not available right now" (or whatever it would be called in English). So idk what is incompatible, or how to fix it. Very annoying.

[deviant88]

Who cares man we get it eventually. They are at fault, they want to do things their own way, ofcourse they cant deliver to all planet at once.

What i would have done is make everyone upgrade their key trough website and trade for windows 10 key, then i would release multiple sources of windows 10 iso and torrent link.

Then everything was settled those who wanted to keep current windows would install 10 from desktop setup with the new key and others could do a fresh install from usb.

 

Easy, flexible, no stress, cheaper for them too, i cant imagine the bandwidth cost to deliver win10 by update to everyone, since 7/8 doesnt have peer to peer distribution yet like w10 will.

 

My biggest concern is that they wont trade me a key for my current 8.1 key, i want fresh install from USB no matter what, ill get the .iso somehow.

Why do people like to make simple things complicated ? thats something i always wonder,if its not stupid or stubbornnes idk what it is.

[Elapo]

75% of the desktops use windows 7 - 8.1. so if that is a 4 GB download for 1 billion PCs, that makes it 4000 Peta Bytes of data that needs to be sent from microsofts servers to users, IF everyone upgrades.

 

3 Letters:

 

CDN

 

MS uploads the file to their CDN, which distributes it over their servers. That's where your download comes from, not directly from MS. 4000 petabytes is nothing for CDN's.

[Techhog]

you might want to check that stat. the most widely used OS is windows xp. The most widely reported OS is in the range of windows 7-8.1.

 

Windows xp didn't have modern anti piracy measures (actually I think I've got an install cd lying around somewhere still) and was pirated like crazy when the internet era hit. It only stopped being supported at the start of last year.

XP hasn't been on top for years. Windows 7 overtook it ages ago, and now it's not even close.

 

Even though you're the one who should have provided a source, I'll do it anyway: http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/01/windows-8s-market-share-maxes-out-at-16-as-windows-10-looms/ 

[slightlyjaded]

XP hasn't been on top for years. Windows 7 overtook it ages ago, and now it's not even close.

No win 7 took over years ago as the most legitimately used OS. and it's the only way they can get official stats. I swear 3/4 of china still uses xp. That stat was gathered from torrent downloads. something microsoft doesn't want to admit.

[Bouzoo]

No win 7 took over years ago as the most legitimately used OS. and it's the only way they can get official stats. I swear 3/4 of china still uses xp. That stat was gathered from torrent downloads. something microsoft doesn't want to admit.

Care to provide a source?

[Techhog]

Who cares man we get it eventually. They are at fault, they want to do things their own way, ofcourse they cant deliver to all planet at once.

What i would have done is make everyone upgrade their key trough website and trade for windows 10 key, then i would release multiple sources of windows 10 iso and torrent link.

Then everything was settled those who wanted to keep current windows would install 10 from desktop setup with the new key and others could do a fresh install from usb.

 

Easy, flexible, no stress, cheaper for them too, i cant imagine the bandwidth cost to deliver win10 by update to everyone, since 7/8 doesnt have peer to peer distribution yet like w10 will.

 

My biggest concern is that they wont trade me a key for my current 8.1 key, i want fresh install from USB no matter what, ill get the .iso somehow.

Why do people like to make simple things complicated ? thats something i always wonder,if its not stupid or stubbornnes idk what it is.

The reason they couldn't do that is because you need a third-party tool to get your OEM key from most OEM Windows 8.1 machines.

[slightlyjaded]

Care to provide a source?

Actually every official source I can find agrees with you. My source was this guy

 

https://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter

 

You can see why I figure he'd be in a position to know.

 

I will agree that the market share has downgraded since xp is no longer supported. I don't agree that is has downgraded anywhere close to what the official figures suggest.

[Techhog]

No win 7 took over years ago as the most legitimately used OS. and it's the only way they can get official stats. I swear 3/4 of china still uses xp. That stat was gathered from torrent downloads. something microsoft doesn't want to admit.

That that's completely irrelevant to this conversation. I swear, some of you are addicted to proving other people wrong... You also still need a source, but I don't doubt that you're correct

[Bouzoo]

Actually every official source I can find agrees with you. My source was this guy

 

https://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter

 

You can see why I figure he'd be in a position to know.

Oh I haven't said anything in this debate, you mistook me for someone

[slightlyjaded]

That that's completely irrelevant to this conversation. I swear, some of you are addicted to proving other people wrong... You also still need a source, but I don't doubt that you're correct

Sorry replied to the wrong person

 

"Actually every official source I can find agrees with you. My source was this guy

 

https://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter

 

You can see why I figure he'd be in a position to know."

[JuztBe]

This is fine. I don't plan on getting Windows 10 the day it comes out because there's guaranteed to be bugs that need to be worked out. Considering that we have up to a year from release to upgrade, I'll probably wait about 6 months before even attempting it. By then I'd hope even the most obscure of drivers would have been patched for compatibility. Generally, you never want to be the first to do anything.

I totally agree. But there are people who wants to touch and play with newest software and hardware, no matter bugs, compatibility issues etc.

[Fetzie]

I wasn't planning on doing the upgrade until the end of August anyway.

[Master Disaster]

It's going out in waves so in case the first wave starts having a bunch of issues they can stop the next wave and fix all the bugs. Hopefully everything goes well, if not then I feel bad for the people in the first wave.

I intend to upgrade, get my key, create install media and clean install so I would be perfect for a first wave key.

You listening Microsoft??

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

Anyone else going to be waiting until the very last second before upgrading for free, or is it just me?

 

I'm not even upgrading at all.  From what I've seen so far, there's a high probability than Win10 is even more of a datamining tool than 8.1 is.  I'll stick to my stripped-down W7 for as long as I have any use for a Microsoft OS at all. 

 

Remind me to take a break from the forum between July 28th and whatever date the final upgrades roll out.  The forum is going to be flooded with people wanting to know why their PC hasn't upgraded to Win10 yet. 

[Yog]

What? That's so lame! It figures there was a catch. :lol:

They're giving it away for free, they want to reduce the cost of rolling it out as much as possible...otherwise they're literally just throwing money away.

[Doobeedoo]

Nothing strange. Server bandwidth and early security on OS it's good they're not rushing with such a thing.

[evilarceus]

Insider Program FTW

[Sors]

Yay,  glad I haven't got rid of my insider install.   I'll keep this drive and get win 10, then switch drives when is available for everybody so I can install it in the disc that came originally with my laptop and get another license for that one.

[Stuff_]

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong. This happens with new Android updates, new iOS updates, etc. They allow everyone to download it at once, their servers get bogged down and it might cause issues.

Pushing it out a little at a time for a few days seems like the right step, to me.

 

Plus, there will likely be an uploaded .msi or .iso something for people to grab.

[Trik'Stari]

I'm not even upgrading at all.  From what I've seen so far, there's a high probability than Win10 is even more of a datamining tool than 8.1 is.  I'll stick to my stripped-down W7 for as long as I have any use for a Microsoft OS at all. 

 

Remind me to take a break from the forum between July 28th and whatever date the final upgrades roll out.  The forum is going to be flooded with people wanting to know why their PC hasn't upgraded to Win10 yet. 

I'm predicting a bunch of issues with the W10 rollout "turns out a vulnerability got through, no one could choose to not update, so everyone got a virus" etc.

 

I'm not sure if I'm going to upgrade. If I have to, I will for DX12. Hopefully by then we'll have the option of turning auto update off

[Notional]

I intend to upgrade, get my key, create install media and clean install so I would be perfect for a first wave key.

You listening Microsoft??

 

Pretty sure you can't do that, as you don't get a key. You "format" via windows reset.

[Techhog]

I'm predicting a bunch of issues with the W10 rollout "turns out a vulnerability got through, no one could choose to not update, so everyone got a virus" etc.

 

I'm not sure if I'm going to upgrade. If I have to, I will for DX12. Hopefully by then we'll have the option of turning auto update off

And that's why I have the Pro version! I don't think that MS is going to backtrack this time tbh. There won't be enough backlash unless something goes horribly wrong.

[Cheddle]

I want my more numbers thing NOW