R9 380 worth it in the end?

[titanium42]

So I've seen some reviews here and there all saying just tonga and gcn 1.2 and basically no need to have it. So I want to know what you guys think since Linus doesn't have a review yet.

[Jerakl]

Protip:

 

If you can't find a review on it. Don't buy it.

 

Not saying you were going to, but it sounded like you were thinking about it.

 

 

AFAIK if you take a 290x and flash it with a 390x bios it becomes a 390x, because hardware (again AFAIK) is the exact same. Which means there's nothing to stop you turning a 295 into a 380.

[thekeemo]

Protip:

 

If you can't find a review on it. Don't buy it.

 

Not saying you were going to, but it sounded like you were thinking about it.

 

 

AFAIK if you take a 290x and flash it with a 390x bios it becomes a 390x, because hardware (again AFAIK) is the exact same. Which means there's nothing to stop you turning a 295 into a 380.

you mean a 285.... right?

[Glenwing]

Whenever you see "R9 390X" just replace it with "R9 290X"

 

Whenever you see "R9 380" just replace it with "R9 285"

 

And all the answers to these questions will become pretty self-explanatory.

[dougdangger]

Just buy a Sharpie marker and change the 2xx into a 3xx and you have yourself a 3 series!

[itachipirate]

Whenever you see "R9 390X" just replace it with "R9 290X"

 

Whenever you see "R9 380" just replace it with "R9 285"

 

And all the answers to these questions will become pretty self-explanatory.

Everyone says that... But why is it that the 290x is competing with the GTX 970 for performance, and the 390x appears to compete with the GTX 980 in performance? People keep saying they're the same thing but they perform differently

[Kriztoff117]

Go to Digital Foundry you'll se by yourself but for me, it isnt quite an archivement, well 4k capabilities are really impressing, maybe its a good choise if you like Radeon Cards plus the 2 free games, and the directx 12 native support. 

Personaly I wont go with AMD this time, Altough I was a fan of it really expecting to see FPS's to the sky

[Glenwing]

Everyone says that... But why is it that the 290x is competing with the GTX 970 for performance, and the 390x appears to compete with the GTX 980 in performance? People keep saying they're the same thing but they perform differently

 

The default settings are different. But you can change the 290X clock speeds to be identical to the 390X and they'll perform exactly the same.

[itachipirate]

The default settings are different. But you can change the 290X clock speeds to be identical to the 390X and they'll perform exactly the same.

I'd like to see Linus do a video when he can get his hands on everything actually testing this. Some 8gb 290x vs the 8gb 390x at the same clock speeds. He himself said they were exactly the same, but I want to see an actual test before I'll believe overclocking an 8gb 290x makes it compete with the GTX 980

[dougdangger]

I find it amusing when AMD fans brag about the 290's ability to render at 1440 or even 4K.  No doubt it can with its 4gb of ram.  But we're PC gamers, not Power Point viewers.

 

I'd rather have 100fps of 1080p over 22fps of 1440p.

[mrthuvi]

I find it amusing when AMD fans brag about the 290's ability to render at 1440 or even 4K.  No doubt it can with its 4gb of ram.  But we're PC gamers, not Power Point viewers.

 

I'd rather have 100fps of 1080p over 22fps of 1440p.

it depends on the games. With action-packed game, sure having more fps is good. But there're many games that is not about combat, and scenic exploration is an enjoyable experience viable at lower fps. 

And what game dip from 100fps 1080p to 22fps 1440p?

[Alurit]

The default settings are different. But you can change the 290X clock speeds to be identical to the 390X and they'll perform exactly the same.

I think the only difference is the 290x having an referance effective core clock of 5000mhz (or I think it was), and the 390x having a 6000mhz and a little more memory bandwidth and theres no ref model, meaning they all come with a sligth factory OC (msi with +50 on core +100 on memory). and that what's gives it a 8-10% better performance matching it up with a referance 980 in 4k, and sligthly under it in lower res, you can do that with a 290x as well by flashing the bios but it might not be that stable with cards that are not good overclockers. Digital Foundry has a few benchmarks up with the 390x

[Glenwing]

I'd like to see Linus do a video when he can get his hands on everything actually testing this. Some 8gb 290x vs the 8gb 390x at the same clock speeds. He himself said they were exactly the same, but I want to see an actual test before I'll believe overclocking an 8gb 290x makes it compete with the GTX 980

 

Would you believe you can overclock a 970 to the same level as a stock 980? Because that's the same thing. The 290X/970 are only slightly behind the 980, it's just the pro-NVIDIA attitude around here makes it sound like the 980 is in a whole different class or something, when it isn't.

[Alurit]

Would you believe you can overclock a 970 to the same level as a stock 980? Because that's the same thing. The 290X/970 are only slightly behind the 980, it's just the pro-NVIDIA attitude around here makes it sound like the 980 is in a whole different class or something, when it isn't.

unless you want to use sli 970 in 4k and hit the 3.5gb vram, but that only happen in shadow of mordor and gtav that I know of and is very specific case, but with time goes on we see more and more vram usage. But what I want to see is 390 non x reviews go up, since it has the same price as the 970, and if I recall correctly the 290 had a better oc headroom than the 290x, so that might be a slightly less powerful but almost matching 970 with more vram. (not that games use more than 3gb vram in 1080p ultrawide-1440p that the 970 is aiming for)

[Mightyinvader]

Would you believe you can overclock a 970 to the same level as a stock 980? Because that's the same thing. The 290X/970 are only slightly behind the 980, it's just the pro-NVIDIA attitude around here makes it sound like the 980 is in a whole different class or something, when it isn't.

Proper marketing I suppose

[dougdangger]

it depends on the games. With action-packed game, sure having more fps is good. But there're many games that is not about combat, and scenic exploration is an enjoyable experience viable at lower fps. 

And what game dip from 100fps 1080p to 22fps 1440p?

So you like point and click games... good for you.

 

Crysis 3 was when the R9 was struggling at 22fps.

[mrthuvi]

So you like point and click games... good for you.

 

Crysis 3 was when the R9 was struggling at 22fps.

Jumping from 1080p to 1440p do have impact on performance but no where near the 5 times difference you suggested. Try better next time.

 

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

They're about the same price in my country. It just comes down to which has a better cooler for the price you're looking for...

[dougdangger]

Jumping from 1080p to 1440p do have impact on performance but no where near the 5 times difference you suggested. Try better next time.

 

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Wow, high quality.  That takes muscle.  LOL

[titanium42]

So for a new build i should get a r9 285 then?

[Rhey]

It preforms slightly better then 960 and there is a chance that it will be even better after the release of of DX12. 380 is a good choice for people who can spend only 200 $ on a graphic cards. However 970 still offers far better value for money.

 

 

 

So for a new build i should get a r9 285 then?

If you can find it for a lower price then r9 380 then yes. 

[mrthuvi]

Wow, high quality.  That takes muscle.  LOL

I'd rather have 100fps of 1080p over 22fps of 1440p.

Yeah, and with that puny high quality setting, NONE of the cards can reach 100fps anyway. There's simply no game where performance dips that high from 1080p to 1440p.

[Nena Trinity]

So for a new build i should get a r9 285 then?

Yes but make sure its a non AMD version, Sapphire ones are great!

[Belo1301]

[Prysin]

4GB Powercolor R9 380   229.99

http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=

 

XFX Radeon R9 290 4GB   240~ish after all the promos and rebates  (This is pretty much stock 290)

http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=

 

Sapphire R9 290 4GB 263 USD (crazy fast factory OC version)

http://www.newegg.co...ID=3938566&SID=

 

Gigabyte GTX 970  296 USD  (cheapest i could find)

http://www.amazon.co.../?tag=pcpapi-20

 

 

Tnere you have your answer OP, worth it? no... not when you can have a normal 290 for 10.01 USD more, or a bonkers hardcore factory OC'd one for 33.01 USD more