Forbes: 2x GTX 760s vs. GTX Titan

[Ian_Cassidy]

I have been thinking about upgrading my single MSI GTX 660 Ti OC since GTX Titan was announced, but now, some of that feeling towards sinking a Titan into my PCIe slot has somewhat gone away. I know Linus most of the time always says that 1 card will generally be better than 2. Although those benchmarks do look quite delicious at the price point. Maybe Linux should do a video?

 

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/07/07/crunching-the-numbers-can-dual-269-nvidia-gtx-760s-outperform-a-999-titan/

 

 

[TheBrenz]

This is interesting, I wish they had benchmarks showing surround gaming performance where the titan would likely pull ahead because of its extra VRAM. 

[AraSarkisyan]

Get two 760s. 

[AraSarkisyan]

I have been thinking about upgrading my single MSI GTX 660 Ti OC since GTX Titan was announced, but now, some of that feeling towards sinking a Titan into my PCIe slot has somewhat gone away. I know Linus most of the time always says that 1 card will generally be better than 2. Although those benchmarks do look quite delicious at the price point. Maybe Linux should do a video?

 

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/07/07/crunching-the-numbers-can-dual-269-nvidia-gtx-760s-outperform-a-999-titan/

2 who's Linux? 

[Ultimate_PIMP]

2 who's Linux? 

 

Bro its slang for linus, get with 2013.

[Emperor_Piehead]

You also have the problem of extra heat, power draw, some programs do not play well with sli, not every game supports sli, frame stuttering. 2 cards will normally get a higher framerate, but the experience will not be as good.

[AraSarkisyan]

Bro its slang for linus, get with 2013.

Is it a pimp thing?  ;)

[felixbearpig]

This is stupid. 2 cards will always beat 1 that's fact

[Ultimate_PIMP]

Is it a pimp thing?  ;)

 

Yah its hella pimpin

[HybridB]

This is interesting, I wish they had benchmarks showing surround gaming performance where the titan would likely pull ahead because of its extra VRAM. 

4gb edition 760's?

[DenVu]

a titan is $1000 and 2 gtx 760's are $500, you could also get an additional gtx 660 ti for $250

 

if you are looking at a titan why not spend it on 2 gtx770's that should be around $800

[Anubikai]

WHy not get one 780 now....then add another one if you feel youreally need the power......one 780 is more than enough to eat through basically any game at max settings. The 780 comes in 3gbs i think so higher resolutions arent a problem.

 

-Anubikai

[kuddlesworth9419]

Yea but you can have 2 Titans/780's or 4 Titans or 780's. A 780 in the long run is better because you can always get 3 others and be set probably for 5ish years. More VRAM on 780 and the such. Still it's a good value option to go for two 760's if you know you will upgrade once every two years. 

[Pruxis]

This is the greater deal if you want ultimate performance on 1080p or lower resolutions, but I do recommand getting better graphics cards if you want to play at higher resolutions.

Still I am surprised by the results of the SLI 760's beating down the Titan on 1080p

[Anubikai]

I guess it comes down to whtehr your playing on a single monitor or not.....I think at resolutions of 1920x1200 and under two 760s would be great.....higer resolutions and they will be bottlenecked by low vram....you could always get the higher ram version =)

-Anubikai

[I'm Batman]

1920x1080=Gtx780

2560x1200=Titan

anything higher is Titan 

 

''1 High end card is better than 2 low end cards'' -Linus Sebastian -Crazy Russain

 

in this case we are talking about TİTAN not 670

[ANIMAL_ORIGIN]

wot? o.o

[blackwolt]

WHy not get one 780 now....then add another one if you feel youreally need the power......one 780 is more than enough to eat through basically any game at max settings. The 780 comes in 3gbs i think so higher resolutions arent a problem.

 

-Anubikai

This...

 

Yea but you can have 2 Titans/780's or 4 Titans or 780's. A 780 in the long run is better because you can always get 3 others and be set probably for 5ish years. More VRAM on 780 and the such. Still it's a good value option to go for two 760's if you know you will upgrade once every two years. 

And this.

[Modzy]

You also have the problem of extra heat, power draw, some programs do not play well with sli, not every game supports sli, frame stuttering. 2 cards will normally get a higher framerate, but the experience will not be as good.

 

I have run both single high end and SLi med range cards ever since nvidia brought back SLI and AMD made crossfire. I play AAA titles and indy & other games where Duel scaling isn't always the best. I buy for pure cost vs performance over a 3-4 year period. When Duel GPU out performs a single card and costs less.

Don't talk about frame shuttering as 95% of you who only play games and don't sit there analyzing your screen frame by frame during every bit of game play you do. using it as a con against single gpu configurations wouldn't have ever even been a topic had PC hardware media hadn't have started using it as a Pro or Con for the different branded products. (ei nvidia sli not having driver issues like amd at current).

I run a Single 1080 27" 60hz display where i see a full screen in my FOV and enjoy both competitive fps gaming and immersive single player games. Never at any 1 point in the last 7-8 years or so since duel GPUs have returned has my gaming experience been disrupted by micro-shutting issues. I can't not comment on the current state of AMD xfire as i currently run nvidia. But i have run 2 different crossfire configurations in the past and have not had any less of an experience as a single gpu.

Micro-shuttering is not as big of a deal as something like screen tearing to the eye, where v-sync was such a big deal. Duel GPU's, aside from AMDs current issues, are not a worse off experience over a single GPU. Sometimes like in current AMD they have hic-ups, and in an ever changing tech world these things happen, just go with nvidia if that's your budget and your worried about Radeon cards.

But Emperor_Piehead is saying you always "have extra heat, extra power draw, the experience will not be as good".

This is not the case at all and i am going to passionately defend this as i have always had higher heat output from a single high end GPU over 2 med range gpus. Both of my stock cooled 760s run cooler under load using reference blower coolers than a single titan and 780. They even run cooler overclocked to there limit than a stock titan and 780. And you can't say "extra power draw" is a con as thats the entire point of getting high performance with same generation hardware. The more FPS you want the more power it will cost you. Thats like saying i dont want a GTX 770 over a single gtx 760, because the 770 draws more power, but has higher frame rate. If how ever SLI 760s had the exact same performance as a titan, but used a chuck more power than yes. the power draw argument is valid. But its not now as the performance is higher.

Not meant as bragging but this is my history since sli/xfire was introduced: single 6600, SLI 6600s, single 6800 ultra, SLI 6800 Ultra's, single X850 XT, crossfire X850 XT, single 8800 GTS, SLI 8800 GTS, Single 5770, crossfire 5770, *single gtx 460, SLI gtx 460, single gtx 760, now SLI GTX 760.

*I switched here to nvidia for cuda video rendering reasons.

Not once have i had to stop playing a game or even stepped back saying this looks bad because of micro-shutter causing a bad experience. Stop using it as an augment against duel gpu setups for every scenario and every card. Currently to your naked eye in gaming only AMD crossfire could cause you to not enjoy the overall experience because of their driver issues and time delay for game support, and even then it subject to the users own requirements.

Again this argument is aimed at the duel 760 vs single 780/titan. Not duel chip cards like 690/7990 are another story and also have there own pro's & cons.

 

 

[Modzy]

I would just like to point out a flaw in what Linus made a point of saying on the live stream about this post. That a Titan has a much smoother experience "most" of the time over sli. You could line up 100 gamers who are not benchmark perfectionists who scan their game play frame by frame for imperfection. The odds not even half could tell which one had micro-shutter. That's now little visually it impacts your average game play experience. Linus said buying a $999 card would give a smoother experience over buying a pair of cards cards costing $300 less.

So if you don't have the massive budget for that king single card but want better frame rates, getting multi gpus will overall deliver a better experience as you will have the peace of mind to say. I didn't waste a cent of my money, I'm getting higher fps and even if u had the extra cash for that king card. buy a 120hz monitor instead. that will give you a much much more visually pleasing expereince than fighting over the difference between micro-shuttering and not.

[Emperor_Piehead]

Thank you Modzy for your input. That is probably the best defense I've heard of dual gpu setups. I know a couple people who have had it and they didn't like the problems of program support and game support; the rest of the stuff has come from reviewers like Linus. 

[Steowd]

This is stupid. 2 cards will always beat 1 that's fact

lol so you are sayin 2 550ti's are better than titan 

[Gorgatron]

This is stupid. 2 cards will always beat 1 that's fact

Is there even a stuttering issue with NVIDIA and SLI or is it just currently AMD? IF no for NVIDIA then its a sure winner on a budget.

[nsyedhasan]

This is stupid. 2 cards will always beat 1 that's fact

650 TI Boost Edition SLI can beat a single GTX 680 but not a 780 or a Titan.

[Anubikai]

I think what felixbearpig is trying to say is you can beat the performance of a 1000 dollar card for much less money....it doesnt even create that much heat or take a lot of power.....if your concrened about heat then use blower style cards.....but get a 760 sli or 7950 crossfire and you can beat performance of much higher priced cards, but at higher resolutions above 1080p with only 3gb vram cards im thikning youll need to lower your graphics settings whilst on the titan you can just keep pushing with the 6gb or vram......im ersonally aiming for a 7950 crossfire.....then soon enough custom loop it.....atm im getting 60+fps at 1080p on maxed settings in crysis 3 with a single 7950....sooo yeah....i rarely get lagg spikes and if i do its going down to like 50fps which in my opinion isnt such a big deal.....its really up to the individual...they have two options....

 

1. get a single card that is really powerful and have the ability to upgrade later

 

or

 

2. get two cards which when paired together offer some astoundingly good performance per dollar but you "loose" the ability to upgrade.

 

-Anubikai