8350 bottlenecking

[sproutickler]

i have the following components at the moment

 

amd 8350 stock fan

asrock 970 extreme 4 mb

8gb ddr3 1600mhz ram

amd radeon 7950

1tb western digital hard drive

corsair cx 600w psu

mid tower case

 

i want to get a new cooler the coolmaster 212 evo and a new motherboard 

Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 SKT-AM3+ Motherboard. with these i hope to overclock my cpu to around 4.5ghz if i can.   i also want to upgrade to a gtx 970 and maybe at christmas by another one. will my cpu overclocked bottleneck with 2 gtx 970s. i had 2 amd radeon 7850s 1gb each and i had less fps with both of them crossfired than with just 1 of them. thanks for reading

 

 

[OfficialJsP]

the 8350 will most likely bottleneck 2 970's its not worth spend money on getting a new motherboard to overclock since the AM3+ socket is dead you should just get a new intel cpu

[sproutickler]

will it bottleneck with just 1 gtx 970?

[nhatduy1611]

A single 970 will still be bottleneck by a 8350. 

[Tim Drake]

Sell your motherboard and CPU then save for an i5.

 

Any bottlenecking = gone

[OfficialJsP]

will it bottleneck with just 1 gtx 970?

 

well put it this way i don't get the full usage out of my 770 and the 970 is more powerful than a 770 so yeah i would say so

[Interfectorem]

will it bottleneck with just 1 gtx 970?

I have a GTX 970 paired with an AMD FX-8320 overclocked to 4.8 Ghz. Yes, it does slightly bottleneck, I get around 85% - 90% GPU usage in BF4. Have not tried in other games. Since you plan to overclock to around 4.5 Ghz, I would probably expect 75% - 85% GPU usage, which should still be perfectly playable.

[Altecice]

As above, may be slightly exaggerated... But take it from somebody who has been through it (I had an 8350 @ 5Ghz and still bottlenecked my two 290x's) I moved to an i7-4790k and it has been smooth sailing ever since. No choppy frame rates/lag spikes etc. Honestly buy a new Mobo and an I5, you dont even need to buy a K version or an OCable mobo and you will get a vastly better base to get the full potential of any 970 SLI or not. 

[SeanBond]

 

i have the following components at the moment

 

amd 8350 stock fan

asrock 970 extreme 4 mb

8gb ddr3 1600mhz ram

amd radeon 7950

1tb western digital hard drive

corsair cx 600w psu

mid tower case

 

i want to get a new cooler the coolmaster 212 evo and a new motherboard 

Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 SKT-AM3+ Motherboard. with these i hope to overclock my cpu to around 4.5ghz if i can.   i also want to upgrade to a gtx 970 and maybe at christmas by another one. will my cpu overclocked bottleneck with 2 gtx 970s. i had 2 amd radeon 7850s 1gb each and i had less fps with both of them crossfired than with just 1 of them. thanks for reading

 

Yeah I wouldn't get a sli setup on a 8350. Just stick to one and prioritize a new cpu, wait for the new broadwell lineup and get an i5 or i7. 

[Interfectorem]

As above, may be slightly exaggerated... But take it from somebody who has been through it (I had an 8350 @ 5Ghz and still bottlenecked my two 290x's) I moved to an i7-4790k and it has been smooth sailing ever since. No choppy frame rates/lag spikes etc. Honestly buy a new Mobo and an I5, you dont even need to buy a K version or an OCable mobo and you will get a vastly better base to get the full potential of any 970 SLI or not. 

What voltage did you use for 5 GHz?

[Altecice]

What voltage did you use for 5 GHz?

 

ohhh now your asking... I think it was 1.51v (full LC loop to keep it cool).

[Interfectorem]

ohhh now your asking... I think it was 1.51v (full LC loop to keep it cool).

Interesting. I use 1.45v for 4.8 Ghz. I want to go to 5 GHz just because it's an even and pleasing number.

[Altecice]

Interesting. I use 1.45v for 4.8 Ghz. I want to go to 5 GHz just because it's an even and pleasing number.

 

Yep same for me, 4.8>5.0 is a massive vcore bump and it was just on my range of comfort zone.

[i_build_nanosuits]

i had an FX-8320 clocked at 4.6ghz paired with a single GTX 780 for 1080p gaming...CPu bottleneck in many games indeed...had to upgrade to a more powerful CPU only 3 month after the FX and motherboard purchase.

The FX is weak when it comes to gaming and it has been a very big let down for me and a mistake i will never forget, next time i will trust the benchmarks and not listen to the fanboys.

OP, do not pair that CPU with such a strong graphics card for 1080p gaming unless you really don't care running games at 40FPS with a GPU that could push 85FPS...i suggest you buy a single GTX 970 and THEN make sure you upgrade your CPU to at least an haswell core i5-4460 or similar and a cheap H series motherboard at the very least...that's the minimum if you want to take full advantage of a strong GPU like the GTX 970 in games.

[Suika]

FX-8350 and GTX 780 owner here: Gaming is so much more pleasant on my i7-4790k (I only ever see four threads used in games), especially Metro 2033. I remember the Tek Syndicate video and they said the FX-8350 had better averages than an i7-3770k... but they did NOT talk about stuttering and overall how the FX-8350 just can't offer smooth gameplay.

 

Yes, though, you'll see some heavy bottlenecks with dual 970s. My single 780 saw bottlenecks in most games, Skyrim especially.

[Jeremykin]

the 8350 will most likely bottleneck 2 970's its not worth spend money on getting a new motherboard to overclock since the AM3+ socket is dead you should just get a new intel cpu

intel is not always the way to go for gaming! He can overclock and the AMD processor should handle everything fine. It has 8 cores at potentially 4.5 GHz. Let's get real here. My 8370 OC handles a 290X with lots of headroom. 

[dragoon20005]

intel is not always the way to go for gaming! He can overclock and the AMD processor should handle everything fine. It has 8 cores at potentially 4.5 GHz. Let's get real here. My 8370 OC handles a 290X with lots of headroom. 

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[LordMustangGT]

8350 will be fine with a single 970. I ran a single 780ti with no bottlenecking with my 9590 @ 1080, with the games I play I should say.. I now run sli 780ti's with my 9590 with no bottlenecking @5760x1080.

[Dabombinable]

8350 will be fine with a single 970. I ran a single 780ti with no bottlenecking with my 9590 @ 1080, with the games I play I should say.. I now run sli 780ti's with my 9590 with no bottlenecking @5760x1080 x 1080

1. As you increase the resolution, more of the load is shifted to the GPU's

2. Your 9590, to get its level of performance, consumes a lot of power, puts out a lot of heat, and is about as good as an i5 at stock speeds.

3. An FX 8350 will not be fine with a single GTX 970, ever heard of minimum FPS.

[LordMustangGT]

hence the reason I put up the res I was playing.

A single 780ti is more powerfull the a 970, and I had no problems, yes intel can have better minimums, but not all of use are whores about minimums. BF4 ultra and, and ya it could have a quick dip, but to what, into the 40-50fps for a flash and millisecond... I was seeing 80fps avg bf4 ultra, and seeing highs into the 120-130s. 8350 OC! and a 970 you'd be fine.

With my sli setup and a single 1080 screen, it bottlenecks, good thing I play @ 5760x1080 tho

[Dabombinable]

hence the reason I put up the res I was playing.

A single 780ti is more powerfull the a 970, and I had no problems, yes intel can have better minimums, but not all of use are whores about minimums. BF4 ultra and, and ya it could have a quick dip, but to what, into the 40-50fps for a flash and millisecond... I was seeing 80fps avg bf4 ultra, and seeing highs into the 120-130s. 8350 OC! and a 970 you'd be fine.

Minimum frame rates dictate how smoothly a game will play, if its choppy as fuck because of a low minimum FPS then its a bad experience.

Also: http://www.computeralliance.com.au/parts/cpus

This shop is less than 1 and a half hours away by train, and an FX 8320 costs only $44 less than an i5 4460, and an FX 8350 is only $4 dollars less. And guess what is a lot better in games and won't bottleneck any graphics card? The i5 4460.

Edit: An FX 9590 is also $304, while an i5 4690k is $324 dollars BTW.

[OfficialJsP]

intel is not always the way to go for gaming! He can overclock and the AMD processor should handle everything fine. It has 8 cores at potentially 4.5 GHz. Let's get real here. My 8370 OC handles a 290X with lots of headroom. 

 

it will still bottleneck a 970 and yes intel is pretty much the way to go for gaming unless you are on a budget and not all of them 8 cores are physical cores 

[XiaoPineApple]

hence the reason I put up the res I was playing.

A single 780ti is more powerfull the a 970, and I had no problems, yes intel can have better minimums, but not all of use are whores about minimums. BF4 ultra and, and ya it could have a quick dip, but to what, into the 40-50fps for a flash and millisecond... I was seeing 80fps avg bf4 ultra, and seeing highs into the 120-130s. 8350 OC! and a 970 you'd be fine.

With my sli setup and a single 1080 screen, it bottlenecks, good thing I play @ 5760x1080 tho

 

minmum fps directly refer to how good ur frametime is, like stutter or choppy.

i would rather have a 45minimum fps with 60 average than 80 average and 24minimum.

good thing u play at 5760x1080. as the gap between intel and amd become less minor when u play at a higher resolution.

Edited March 26, 2015 by XiaoPineApple

[sproutickler]

dammit all i want to do is play games such as ac unity at nice settings settings at a playable frame rate. i know everyone hates it but im an ac fanboy. if i go intel im gonna have to pretty much build a new pc which i dont have the money for. im guessing an r9 290 will still bottleneck with an 8350? anyway thanks for al the replies it really helps

[LordMustangGT]

my 9590 doesn't bottle neck my 780ti in black flag. If anything, I have to turn some settings down cuz the card can't do everything to the max. Now, in sli I can run everything maxed now in black flag @ 5760x1080, no bottleneck, but the cards can still struggle at times.

So in my response, a 8350 OC and a 290, no problems at all. Just turn AA down a lil