Anyone else agree that Eclipse is a terrible IDE?

[Guest]

I use IDEA, for when I decide "HEY! I'm gonna learn java, then seriously f*** something up and quit once again"

[Lord Gaben]

I recently switched over to IntelliJ IDEA from it, in comparison it is definatley more clunky, used up less RAM though

[loganryan99]

OH MY GOD YES

 

I never used Eclipse besides when it was the only IDE that supported Android. For everything else I used Netbeans. Now I use IntelliJ when I write something in Java (not often) and Netbeans for C++.

[MaxBunny]

Hate Java, hate Eclipse. I might not have hated Java as much as I do if it wasn't for Eclipse. A.Horribly.Long(programminglanguagewithuglysyntax) in an equally bloated IDE that makes the simplest tasks a drudgery. Yet while it copies Java, C# manages to feel neater and more efficient. It just gets annoying when everyone forces something on you because of what it can do and not what you will do and that's where Eclipse and some other programs fail.

[MrSuperb]

OH MY GOD YES

 

I never used Eclipse besides when it was the only IDE that supported Android. For everything else I used Netbeans. Now I use IntelliJ when I write something in Java (not often) and Netbeans for C++.

 

Netbeans???? 

 

OH MY GOD YES NO

[Mo5]

I use Eclipse solely because it's what we use in school... But I prefer Visual Studio and C# over Eclipse and Java

[Builder]

That said, you're limiting yourself i you use an editor like Notepad++ for serious work.

You're also limiting yourself if you use a language like Java for serious work...amirite?

 

emacs+paredit=clisp badassery

[Art Vandelay]

ctrl+click as go to definition was one of the most painful things I've ever experienced. I kept having it happen when I was trying to copy and paste things and had no idea why it was happening.

 

I also often give up trying to figure out why there are red lines everywhere on code that compiles fine.

 

There was also this fun problem where it would give me a null pointer exception when it tried to open certain .jsp files in the web editor.

 

Eclipse is usually broken at any given time.

 

That said, you're limiting yourself i you use an editor like Notepad++ for serious work.

 

Eh, IDE's are more trouble than their worth if you're just doing a small project that doesn't rely on DB connections, internet communication, etc.

 

 

Having moved to Visual Studio this afternoon I've found it to be infinitely better than Eclipse:

• It hasn't crashed once.
• It's compiled everything every time I've told it to.
• It updates syntax errors immediately instead of whenever it feels like it.
• I has an autocomplete funtion.
• It doesn't open multiple windows to run.
• The default colour scheme is dark so I'm not blinded by it.

 

My experience with VS2012 and VS2013 were not quite that smooth.

The debugger on both of them didn't actually trigger reliably for me. It worked whenever it felt like it.

If you delete the code for an event handler from a windows form, the form refuses to open in the editor anymore unless you delete autogenerated code. 

And there were a bunch of other little things that bothered me

 

Even stranger is that I had none of these problems on VS2010. I could delete event handler code and the form still opened;  the debugger always triggered, etc.

[SSL]

Eh, IDE's are more trouble than their worth if you're just doing a small project that doesn't rely on DB connections, internet communication, etc.

 

Using Notepad++ for any kind of development is still silly.

 

You're also limiting yourself if you use a language like Java for serious work...amirite?

 

hue

[brandishwar]

I originally started working with Java before Eclipse even was a thing and took a long hiatus from it around the time Eclipse hit -- I was using emacs to write the code and command line scripts to build it. My coworkers use it to write back-end services and everyone swears by it, but I'm still trying to get the hang of it and cannot stand it. It's also horribly slow. At least JUnit integrates well into it, so it's quite capable on that mark and makes it easy to see where and how any unit tests failed, but for writing code.... yuck... I mean Visual Studio is a more capable and intuitive environment than Eclipse, in my opinion.

[Robi_g]

You're also limiting yourself if you use a language like Java for serious work...amirite?

 

emacs+paredit=clisp badassery

I should probably clarify that I'm doing C and C++ work on eclipse, I can't speak for the Java experience

[Builder]

I should probably clarify that I'm doing C and C++ work on eclipse, I can't speak for the Java experience

That's probably even worse.

 

I can't stand Eclipse for the life of me.

[fringie]

I don't like Eclipse either. Netbeans isn't so nice either.

 

Oh boy, you're going to love Visual Studio. Be sure to install resharper!

[Art Vandelay]

Using Notepad++ for any kind of development is still silly.

What's wrong with using it for something fairly small?

[Syntaxvgm]

I've moved to light solutions like Sublime text recently, but in the past I always preferred jetbrains software, like IntelIJ, over eclipse. 

I do hate netbeans, And I like code blocks for C++

[SSL]

What's wrong with using it for something fairly small?

 

Define "small". At some point it's just easier to learn how to use a real text editor and use that for everything.

[Art Vandelay]

Define "small". At some point it's just easier to learn how to use a real text editor and use that for everything.

I consider small as anything where the code could reasonably fit in one manageable text file.

[SSL]

I consider small as anything where the code could reasonably fit in one manageable text file.

 

Cool. I still prefer to use something a more capable than Notepad++ if it's available. If you don't, neat; I'm glad you're happy with whatever you're doing.

[gastew15]

I use alot of diffrent IDE's for programming since it seems like everywhere I'm at uses a diffrent one.. Overall my favorite Java IDE is by far InteliJ (which Android Studio is built on top off), as it's a nice really full feature but modern and slick IDE that's all eye candy. I still do use Eclipse though for Java development for robot code for FRC and honestly I do quite like it even if it is clunky at the best of times, I still like Egit's integration better than most git plugins for other IDE's too. Visual Studio is still very near and dear to my heart as well since I really only use it for C# development and with the 2013 Ultimate it's so awesome even over what I used to think was so great, 2010 Ultimate.. *For small scale stuff & most simple web site data, obviously not the Java web apps, I just use Notepad++ and if I need compliling I just use the command line. Overall after all that rambling, *looks at title.., I don't really think Eclipse is a terrible IDE, I mean yea it is a little troublesome at times, but I've dealt with far worse IDE issues from others than I really ever have had with Eclipse; Although, making small projects in Eclipse usually is a pain. (I'm an applications programmer & student at the moment FYI)

[ImStupid]

Hahha I can tell you went to Southampton Uni. I'm doing electronic engineering in my second year and I'm doing the computer engineering coursework and getting so pissed off at Eclipse right now. 

[Dat Guy]

Acme is a pretty fine IDE though.

[Franck]

On 2/2/2015 at 12:01 AM, Art Vandelay said:

ctrl+click as go to definition was one of the most painful things I've ever experienced. I kept having it happen when I was trying to copy and paste things and had no idea why it was happening.

 

I also often give up trying to figure out why there are red lines everywhere on code that compiles fine.

 

There was also this fun problem where it would give me a null pointer exception when it tried to open certain .jsp files in the web editor.

 

 

Eh, IDE's are more trouble than their worth if you're just doing a small project that doesn't rely on DB connections, internet communication, etc.

 

 

 

 

My experience with VS2012 and VS2013 were not quite that smooth.

The debugger on both of them didn't actually trigger reliably for me. It worked whenever it felt like it.

If you delete the code for an event handler from a windows form, the form refuses to open in the editor anymore unless you delete autogenerated code. 

And there were a bunch of other little things that bothered me

 

Even stranger is that I had none of these problems on VS2010. I could delete event handler code and the form still opened;  the debugger always triggered, etc.

VS 2010 was great, but after that until 2015 came out it was a total mess.

[pooh1234166]

intellj better

[duncannah]

I'm glad my uni switched to IntelliJ the year I started. I have my qualms with it, but it's nowhere as bad as Eclipse it seems.