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AMD will disclose Carrizo, an integrated processor with its latest x86 core. The 28 nm chip measures 244.62 mm2 and packs more than 3.1 billion transistors. Its new Excavator core is 23% smaller and uses 40% less power than AMD’s previous x86 core.

 

We all expected 28nm so that's no surprise.

 

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28% more transistors, 40% less core power consumption, all with a slightly smaller die size.

 

Seems like AMD is really pushing HDL this time around. Being said this does backup the SiSoft validations (does not confirm it). As HDL is going to impact clock frequency's.

 

What are all of them extra transistors being used for? Not sure exactly how much space the FCH is going to take up as it's a stripped down version.

 

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In the words of Jeremy Clarkson...

 

Pooooooooooowaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

Glad AMD is getting their shit together and lowering the power usage on these chips.I have to wonder what the performance is.

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Now I really hope it has HBM; with 30% more performance at 15w (over piledriver or Steamroller?) 


If they can really push up on some Dual core (maybe dual core + hyper threading) Intel options with 4 cores I'll honestly be happy (in the mobile market.)
 

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Wait, why x86?

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Wait, why x86?

Skybridge ARM/x86 and Zen is after Carizzo. :)

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On 2015-01-28 at 5:24 PM, Victorious Secret said:

Only yours, you don't shitpost on the same level that we can, mainly because this thread is finally dead and should be locked.

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I wasn't wrong. It's extremely rare that I am. I provided sources as well. Different devs can disagree. Further, we now have confirmed discrepancy from Twitter about he use of the pre-release 1080 driver in AMD's demo despite the release 1080 driver having been out a week prior.

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You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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In the words of Jeremy Clarkson...

 

Pooooooooooowaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

 

Glad AMD is getting their shit together and lowering the power usage on these chips.I have to wonder what the performance is.

If they could bring the 40% reduction to power usage to the FX line. A 8350 equivalent in the same power envelope as a i5/i7, that would be great....

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If they could bring the 40% reduction to power usage to the FX line. A 8350 equivalent in the same power envelope as a i5/i7, that would be great....

That could be in a 65watt power envelop. Excavator bring a 30% at 15w over either piledriver/steamroller would be a huge improvement to the FX line if they didn't keep it on am3+. 

 

Is there a gestimate ETA on this beauty?
And is it for a new Socket?

Janaury? and no it'll be on Fm2+. 

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If they could bring the 40% reduction to power usage to the FX line. A 8350 equivalent in the same power envelope as a i5/i7, that would be great....

If they could base a new FX series processor based off Excavator used in Carrizo. AMD actually would have a competitive chip on their hands. With cores shrinking up to 23% that will ultimately result in a full process node improvement on top of architecture improvements. The only downside is a FX-8350 with Excavator cores wouldn't be able to hold its standard clock out of the box. HDL is rumored to destroy high frequencies at the cost of lower power consumption. Personally I wouldn't care if the chip could still OC to 4.5 - 4.8 GHz as a 20-30% IPC improvement would definitely land AMD near Sandy Bridge waters.

 

Is there a gestimate ETA on this beauty?

And is it for a new Socket?

Q4 2014 for mobile, Q1 2015 for desktop.

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Wait, why x86?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium

 

the first two sections sum it up. Intel created a hardware-native x64 CPU called Itanium. It's x86 emulation was shitty, and all programs were x86 at the time, so the product did poorly. AMD created the x86-64 instruction set that allows x86 CPUs to address x64 levels of memory. Everyone accepted the new instruction set because it allowed existing programs to run at native speeds. Now we still refer to CPUs as x86 because they're still x86 hardware. Intel actually had to license these x64 extensions from AMD.

 

This really paved the way for AMD to shine. Intel lost years of R&D time to a poorly performing chip that wasn't accepted by the computing community outside of niche high-end server market (Itanium is still around in the capacity, but you don't hear about it) and AMD started moving forward with the Athalon in '99 paving the way for the Athalon 64 in '03. AMD wouldn't start to fall until Intel releases the core series, in the form of the Core 2 Duo to start with. the core series shattered AMD's hold on the market and the rest is history.

 

this ArsTechnica article is a good read (make sure you read the second part linked at the end) http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/04/the-rise-and-fall-of-amd-how-an-underdog-stuck-it-to-intel/1/

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What socket is this on FM2+? Cause im planning on getting a Athlon as of right now

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If they could bring the 40% reduction to power usage to the FX line. A 8350 equivalent in the same power envelope as a i5/i7, that would be great....

man if they had 28nm excavator 8 core CPU's i think they would sell

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man if they had 28nm excavator 8 core CPU's i think they would sell

accounting for maybe ~25% of their profits right now I don't think they would even make them.

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accounting for maybe ~25% of their profits right now I don't think they would even make them.

Their profit margin for enthusiast grade microprocessors is where it is for obvious reasons. If AMD pushed out a new FX-8550 with Excavator @ 3.5 GHz assuming it has 20-30% IPC increase with at least 30% power reduction. The market would go nuts over buying it especially the people who bought a FX platform years ago. This is another reason why FX isn't a selling point for AMD anymore simply because the platform has been out for so long everyone who wanted one, has one. Tho every single AM3+ motherboard made would need a BIOS update in order to run the new architecture. Which doesn't put it in AMD's best interest as most consumers aren't familiar with doing so, or are too scared to do so. They need to also redesign their chipset to support all of the new features Excavator offers. So the market would need a whole new line of boards at the end of the day.

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