Anyone else getting impatient?

[StarFire]

Man, the CPU market seems so stagnant. So much cool tech over the horizon, yet no real improvement today.

[JoaoPRSousa]

Yeah I know right.

In my opinion there should be a third CPU brand. But, SOMETIMES, the longer the products take to be released, the better they come out

[vern021]

I just hope AMD kicks butt next time around. It will be awesome if they do because then Intel will also have to up their game.

I doubt it tho. I don't think they can even beat the Ivy Bridge-E...

[TheRunningOtaku]

I just hope AMD kicks butt next time around. It will be awesome if they do because then Intel will also have to up their game.

Hopefully Zen won't be delayed. Right now their market niche is way too small to be competitive at all.

Their only strengths are their overclocking, their multi-threaded performance for the price and their integrated graphics.

None of which are that important to most people.

I doubt it tho. I don't think they can even beat the Ivy Bridge-E...

I'd say that it's not the market niche they're targeting. They'll probably continue to target the bulk of the market - LGA 1151/1150 for some time.

They're playing the price/performance game

[DigitalHermit]

Intel's Broadwell promises ultra-low TDP... I'm worried about performance... (but there are doubts that they'll skip this)

 

AMD's Zen and Skybridge feel promising...

 

I can't wait until 2016, so I'm getting a Haswell...

 

I'm also waiting on HSA...

[DigitalHermit]

See, I'd prefer something fast and hot rather than fast and cool.

 

"Liquid cooling reccomended" Sweet! Sign me up!

 

Not AMD fanboying here but, having a space heater is very nice during cold nights... But there is also the disadvantage of having a space heater during hot days...

 

I like AMD because they like to push open standards...

[Syntaxvgm]

COME ON AMD!

I'm really impatient for that new architecture that's supposed to have their own SMT solution. Tired of shitty bulldozer. I want someone to give intel a run for their money on performance again. 

[Lazmarr]

Hopefully Zen won't be delayed. Right now their market niche is way too small to be competitive at all.

Their only strengths are their overclocking, their multi-threaded performance for the price and their integrated graphics.

None of which are that important to most people.

I'd say that it's not the market niche they're targeting. They'll probably continue to target the bulk of the market - LGA 1151/1150 for some time.

They're playing the price/performance game

Actually AMD's intergrated graphics are becoming a lot more viable of an option in most places; more laptops and are using them and educational institutions, at least where I am, are also opting to use AMD APU's in their desktops.

 

@vinyldash303

When I had my 480 this summer, It was running at 80% fan speed with the core at 100°C in 97°F weather. I was able to slightly carmalize a marshmallow on its exhaust. Then I slightly broke it ant sent it to @tmcclelland455 . I will say my 580 is simelar, but not nearly as hot. I'm thinking of busting out my PowerMac G5 and playing some TORCS on it to get my room warmed up because my heater blows on the back of my desk and then out my door. I might also start running FAH on my PC at night. I'm also starting to toss around the idea of getting some refrence cooled R9 290X's instead of another 580. We'll see. The 580's are only about $100 on ebay right now so they are cheaper.

My word...can you please correct these grammatical errors....Just in one of those moods

[TheRunningOtaku]

Actually AMD's intergrated graphics are becoming a lot more viable of an option in most places; more laptops and are using them and educational institutions, at least where, are also opting to use AMD APU's in their desktops.

Yeah, but at the same time Intel's reliability and low power draw a lot of people to them. Their brand name is something that'll take a while to break down.

I agree though, AMD APUs are becoming more and more power efficient and feasible if people want to cut costs and power consumption. 

[mrmonmon2]

I would like to see 6 core become an i3 for Intel (long ways away) and AMD get better architecture so they can get Intel to put their butts in gear to make better processors.

[DigitalHermit]

Yeah, but at the same time Intel's reliability and low power draw a lot of people to them. Their brand name is something that'll take a while to break down.

I agree though, AMD APUs are becoming more and more power efficient and feasible if people want to cut costs and power consumption. 

 

The Trinity APUs are very nice if you're short on budget and can't get a graphics card at the time of purchase but I recommend against going beyond an A8 if you'll be getting a graphics card anyway...

[Shahnewaz]

I'm already impatient about Skybridge, Carrizo and Zen. That's where we'll finally see a new architecture led by the genius (Jim Keller) and AMD drop the failed Bulldozer design.

But when they're 5 times smaller, bleeding money, 2 billion in debt, and suffering from competitor malpractices (Contra-revenue, Gameworks), it'll be a SUPER-TOUGH fight for AMD.

 

Gosh it's like they need some sort of miracle to bring them back to their 90s glory. I want them to stay in the market, (also because they pursue open standards) or else a $1000 for the next Celeron!

[TheRunningOtaku]

The Trinity APUs are very nice if you're short on budget and can't get a graphics card at the time of purchase but I recommend against going beyond an A8 if you'll be getting a graphics card anyway...

The Athlon series of CPUs are a much better option if you intend on getting a GPU with your PC - they're cheaper and OC better than the APUs.

 

I'm already impatient about Skybridge, Carrizo and Zen. That's where we'll finally see a new architecture led by the genius (Jim Keller) and AMD drop the failed Bulldozer design.

But when they're 5 times smaller, bleeding money, 2 billion in debt, and suffering from competitor malpractices (Contra-revenue, Gameworks), it'll be a SUPER-TOUGH fight for AMD.

 

Gosh it's like they need some sort of miracle to bring them back to their 90s glory. I want them to stay in the market, (also because they pursue open standards) or else a $1000 for the next Celeron!

What's Skybridge? Is it their ARM line? (What's the point of ARM?)

AMD has a tough road, but to companies like that 1-2 years of work shouldn't be a problem - they'll be able to survive until 2016, then we'll have to see what happens after.

 

Having competition is always good, so if anything's a reason to buy AMD products, supporting AMD could be one.

[killcomic]

No. I like stagnant because it means I won't have to upgrade anytime soon and can keep on playing with my current set up. HAPPY DAYS!

[ces160]

USB 3 type C ppl, this needs to be a thing and it needs to happen now!

[DigitalHermit]

The Athlon series of CPUs are a much better option if you intend on getting a GPU with your PC - they're cheaper and OC better than the APUs.

 

I meant if your budget is still short of getting a good GPU in spite of getting an Athlon...

[TheRunningOtaku]

I couldn't agree with you more.

The Lack of L3 cache will push people towards the FX line, though. It's the same price with a decent upgrade path.

No. I like stagnant because it means I won't have to upgrade anytime soon and can keep on playing with my current set up. HAPPY DAYS!

you don't *have* to upgrade if new chips come out

I meant if your budget is still short of getting a good GPU in spite of getting an Athlon...

Ohhhh

I guess for the A8 7600 that might be an option, but if you're getting an A10, an 860K paired with an 250 or something would still give better performance in most situations.

The APUs are great if you want a SFF gaming PC or you want a slim tower, but for gaming, they aren't *that* viable yet.

[Shahnewaz]

What's Skybridge? Is it their ARM line? (What's the point of ARM?)

http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/ambidextrous-computing-2014may05.aspx

Google "AMD Skybridge" for articles from review sites.

No. I like stagnant because it means I won't have to upgrade anytime soon and can keep on playing with my current set up. HAPPY DAYS!

Ya, I wish. Games and apps will keep demanding more performance (more realism etc.), so nope.

[TheRunningOtaku]

http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/ambidextrous-computing-2014may05.aspx

Google "AMD Skybridge" for articles from review sites.

I know it's the introduction of pin-compatible high-performance ARM chips, but isn't X86 good enough?

Why would you need Android/server processes to run on a desktop?

forgive my ignorance

Ya, I wish. Games and apps will keep demanding more performance (more realism etc.), so nope.

AMD CPUs are okay for the price if you intend to use mid/low-range cards, so if you aren't intending on getting super high-end cards, I daresay you'll be fine

They might barely be able to support their FX line until 2016, then the Zen architecture will have to be an enormous improvement for AMD to be competitive.

[Shahnewaz]

I know it's the introduction of pin-compatible high-performance ARM chips, but isn't X86 good enough? 

Why would you need Android/server processes to run on a desktop?

forgive my ignorance

 

I heard ARM is much more efficient than x86, so technically ARM will beat x86 in the long run..... (considering ARM will get true big cores to beat x86).

AMD's ARM SoCs (Seattle) are also aimed at servers because of energy efficency over x86. Basically their *statement* is: ARM is better than x86 and it will beat x86 in the long run. They do need something strong against Intel.

 

These are my understanding based on my knowledge, so don't take my words for it.

[flibberdipper]

When I had my 480 this summer, It was running at 80% fan speed with the core at 100°C in 97°F weather. I was able to slightly carmalize a marshmallow on its exhaust. Then I slightly broke it ant sent it to @tmcclelland455 . I will say my 580 is simelar, but not nearly as hot. I'm thinking of busting out my PowerMac G5 and playing some TORCS on it to get my room warmed up because my heater blows on the back of my desk and then out my door. I might also start running FAH on my PC at night. I'm also starting to toss around the idea of getting some refrence cooled R9 290X's instead of another 580. We'll see. The 580's are only about $100 on ebay right now so they are cheaper.

heheheheheheheheh I'll be throwing it in a roughly 19C basement. That should make it slightly cooler.

[flibberdipper]

You will not need a heater down there.

Yeah, the basement might hit 20C if I'm lucky. That basement has yet to pass 21C.

[TheRunningOtaku]

I heard ARM is much more efficient than x86, so technically ARM will beat x86 in the long run..... (considering ARM will get true big cores to beat x86).

AMD's ARM SoCs (Seattle) are also aimed at servers because of energy efficency over x86. Basically their *statement* is: ARM is better than x86 and it will beat x86 in the long run. They do need something strong against Intel.

 

These are my understanding based on my knowledge, so don't take my words for it.

Ohh, that makes sense, kinda. The designs won't be from AMD, though, and I'm not sure if Windows will run on an X86 platform. I just wish Zen will be something good.

Great to see merging of platforms! It's not a bad thing, in the end.

[Samfisher]

 

I like AMD because they like to push open standards...

 

HAhahahaha.......................................

[Shahnewaz]

Ohh, that makes sense, kinda. The designs won't be from AMD, though, and I'm not sure if Windows will run on an X86 platform. I just wish Zen will be something good.

Great to see merging of platforms! It's not a bad thing, in the end.

 

I don't understand what do you mean by the designs won't be from AMD though. They will be custom-made, built from scratch by AMD, except the Seattle CPU core, which is a vanilla A57 if I recall correctly.

I think you meant "Windows won't run on a non-x86 platform, as in ARM". Answer: Windows RT. Yes it won't run x86 software and that's where the pin-compatible designs comes in handy. You get to choose and switch if you wish while keeping the same socket. But in the long run it makes sense, since Linux based OSes (Android, iOS, Mac OSX) are becoming more popular, increasing number of apps are being made for those platforms; and guess what, 2 of the 3 OSes I mentioned is running on ARM SoCs.