The moment of Truth

[SunriseRedeemer]

Today there was a live stream from the Auckland town hall, I only caught the ending to it, but it was very interesting to hear what Glenn Greenwald, Snowden, Assange, Kim Dotcom and others had to say. It was chilling in parts to see the levels that the New Zealand government were involved with the NSA spying and the 5 eye's program. I don't have time at the moment to give my full thoughts on it. But if you are interested here is the archive up on youtube. Coverage starts around 21 mins which I think I queued it up for.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbps1EwAW-0#t=1313

[TR0J4N]

Yea its pretty worrying haha.... Just before our elections too... 

[Str_Mape]

Yea its pretty worrying haha.... Just before our elections too... 

Yep, enjoying the NSA base somewhere near you?

Edit: This election is going to be far more interesting that the previous ones with all the stuff that's been going on recently, for me it's also more interesting since I actually get to vote.

[Slick]

Damn - A meeting of some pretty titanic figures in the Network/Personal security world... Very interesting video

 

Every time Snowden releases new info i get pretty pissed off tbh...

[EthanLovesPi]

The sad thing is there is a NZ Herald poll showing over 50% of New Zealanders believe the PM when he says there is no mass surveillance in NZ.

 

John Key could say he wants NZ to become the next Australian state and he would still win this election.

[Tocsin_786]

first time i saw a "slick" post ^

 

on a more serious note. yes its good that snowden puts stuff out there. but the thing that pisses me off is that we just hear it and continue our lives. of course i am guilty of this as well. 

[Str_Mape]

The sad thing is there is a NZ Herald poll showing over 50% of New Zealanders believe the PM when he says there is no mass surveillance in NZ.

 

John Key could say he wants NZ to become the next Australian state and he would still win this election.

I'm dreading another term of a national lead government.

[murratri]

Damn - A meeting of some pretty titanic figures in the Network/Personal security world... Very interesting video

 

Every time Snowden releases new info i get pretty pissed off tbh...

Pissed at him or the government?

[SouthSpoon]

My issue is that they didnt give any actual proof. They only stated things. There was no hard evidence for anything that either snowden or assange claimed.

[DSPhat]

The sad thing is there is a NZ Herald poll showing over 50% of New Zealanders believe the PM when he says there is no mass surveillance in NZ.

 

John Key could say he wants NZ to become the next Australian state and he would still win this election.

 

You do have to remember that the NZ Herald's polls are only a tiny part of New Zealand's population (4.5 million or so last time I checked). Not only that, the NZ Herald is also very biased to parties right of the centre.

 

I do not want John Key in for a third term, however David Cunliffe isn't much of a looker himself to be honest.

[Str_Mape]

I do not want John Key in for a third term, however David Cunliffe isn't much of a looker himself to be honest.

Can we take Helen Clark back from the UN? Say what you want about her but she's one hell of a politician.

[DSPhat]

Can we take Helen Clark back from the UN? Say what you want about her but she's one hell of a politician.

It might be because I live in Mt Albert, but I like and respect David Shearer, not only as a politician, but as a person.

 

Also, congratulations on 1000 posts

[Str_Mape]

It might be because I live in Mt Albert, but I like and respect David Shearer, not only as a politician, but as a person.

 

Also, congratulations on 1000 posts

Ahh yea, I can match names to faces for very few people in politics, just John Key, David Cunliffe, Russel Norman and Gerry Brownlee, he's the only guy that I know the name of in my electorate.

[Curiousguy313]

Today there was a live stream from the Auckland town hall, I only caught the ending to it, but it was very interesting to hear what Glenn Greenwald, Snowden, Assange, Kim Dotcom and others had to say. It was chilling in parts to see the levels that the New Zealand government were involved with the NSA spying and the 5 eye's program. I don't have time at the moment to give my full thoughts on it. But if you are interested here is the archive up on youtube. Coverage starts around 21 mins which I think I queued it up for.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbps1EwAW-0#t=1313

Thank you for sharing!

[adamdidthis]

Best Labour billboard ever......

 

[El_indian]

My issue is that they didnt give any actual proof. They only stated things. There was no hard evidence for anything that either snowden or assange claimed.

Yeah, and although i believe them, this is exactly what the PM's response should and will be.

I don't like that that our little old country in the corner of the world is involved in all this. Why can't we be like Switzerland...

[dylandylandylan]

Kim Dot Com is a raging lunatic, if you guys don't truly know what he is like, then you should do some reading.

He has turned my country and the election year into a blubbering mess, using outdated sources and the "shock" factor to try and turn the attention away from what REALLY matters. POLICIES.

This election year has been SO tough especially for the young crowd, they're just confused with all this "party" coming into play and slandering our current PM.

 

It really is ridiculous, I cannot wait until he is gone. He's a hype-monger, and a walking advertisement for his own goddamned ego.  

 

/rant

 

edited to add; Stop being sheep. This information is NOTHING new, not one bit of it. It was highly reported last year in our tech sector.

[Herbal Remedies]

Kim Dot Com is a raging lunatic, if you guys don't truly know what he is like, then you should do some reading.

He has turned my country and the election year into a blubbering mess, using outdated sources and the "shock" factor to try and turn the attention away from what REALLY matters. POLICIES.

This election year has been SO tough especially for the young crowd, they're just confused with all this "party" coming into play and slandering our current PM.

 

It really is ridiculous, I cannot wait until he is gone. He's a hype-monger, and a walking advertisement for his own goddamned ego.  

I think its relatively unfair to say this, if you know what the Govt has done to him (Which im fairly certain you are) then you should understand why he wants this govt out, im only 16 and this "party" isn't really all that confusing, they are a minor party pushing what they want, almost like the legalise cannabis party. Basically i'd be mad if someone shat all over me and didn't think to apologize as well.

[El_indian]

Kim Dot Com is a raging lunatic, if you guys don't truly know what he is like, then you should do some reading.

He has turned my country and the election year into a blubbering mess, using outdated sources and the "shock" factor to try and turn the attention away from what REALLY matters. POLICIES.

This election year has been SO tough especially for the young crowd, they're just confused with all this "party" coming into play and slandering our current PM.

 

It really is ridiculous, I cannot wait until he is gone. He's a hype-monger, and a walking advertisement for his own goddamned ego.  

 

/rant

 

edited to add; Stop being sheep. This information is NOTHING new, not one bit of it. It was highly reported last year in our tech sector.

The Kim Dotcom thing was a bit of a side-show. You need to look past that.

It may have been reported last year, but probably not many people took notice of it, and certainly not as many as there are now.

Is it not good to have this information out in the public?

As Snowden said, these issues should be debated among New Zealander's and not left to the PM.

[Trollzarz]

"The Moment of Truth" TL;DR We learnt that we were being spied on, owait we already knew that

[sonic1o1]

sigh voting this weekend for a first time voter like me is going to be tough one party likes spying the other like denying while the lower parties fight each other by throwing crazy policies around. Can i just vote for Obama?

[alexleov]

My biggest surprise over this whole this is that people thought that they had privacy online. When I did my computer studies in 99 we were taught that nothing online is secure.

 

From what I have made of it is yes "private" data is being stored and when a warrant gets served on a person of interest they can go through that data. I really don't have an issue with that.

 

Unfortunately National is the best of a terrible choice. If Labour and the greens have power the Country is doomed. There will be mass unemployment from the $15 minimum wage. The economy will tank from all the empty promises Labour has made and the Greens solution to just print more money to bring the NZ$ down to help exporters.

 

Might be time to move.

[S1AYA7]

I would just like to say it warms my heart that my little home country's governmental issues made it all the way to the linustechtips forums.

[CaptainArcre]

I got one thing to say to all the Internet-Mana voters out there on the forum. What happened to the email that Kim Dotcom said would bring down John Key. Where's that? When reporters asked him about it, he just got angry and asked them why they couldn't ask other questions. 10 minutes later, Laila Harre pulls him away. When Mr. Greenwald asked Kim whether or not the emails were fake, Kim couldn't reply. I don't know if you remember, but when this whole GSCB - Kim Dotcom thing all started up, John Key was criticized for forgetting things, and now Kim Dotcom is too. 

[warditech]

eeee....eee...what is that all about?