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I really need to upgrade.  the rumors make the 980 very tempting!  

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Hope it won't be 980, I want to be surprised! :D

 

They are going to call it the R9 290 Ti!

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Assuming the pricing of $500-$550 rumor is true, GTX 980. I might be able to go to $600, but any further and I'm buying a 780.

I would just get a 290x but I need CUDA for 3D modeling

 

I was thinking about allowing up to $550 for a GTX 980 but I'm very tempted to save some money and just get a GTX 780 or even GTX 770. I was happy with a GTX 760 but that's with a 1080p LCD. I am planning to go 2560 x 1440 IPS 144Hz when BenQ finally does them...either 27" or 32" depending on what's available. So I dunno maybe I should at least get a 780. Decisions, decisions!

 

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I'm not brand bias at all, but I go where the value is in terms of performance per dollar. Right now Nvidia is just asking for too much money, IMO. I'm sure they are fantastic cards, I just don't have the kind of coin to throw around. 

 

Most likely I'll be picking up a "gently used" reference R9-290 and slap my kraken G10 water cooling on it for dirt cheap ($250 or so). 

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I'm not doing anything until I see some real work benchmarks with both AMD and Nvidia's new cards. 

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Silly OP getting the 760 and 670 mixed up.

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Something that has me concerned about the 980 is the 256 memory bus. This would seem to be a liability for this card and limit its future potential, as well as limit its potential in SLI, since the reason to go with SLI is to play at higher resolutions, and I would think lower memory bandwidth would limit performance at higher resolutions, especially 4k.

 

The more I learn about this card the less I like. It just seems like this was a gimmick to boost sales and improve the profit margin per card sold with no effort to provide an actual upgrade in performance. This was about producing cards that cost less to manufacture than the 780/ti, and at least initially this cost reduction isn't going to be passed on to the consumer.

 

They seem to have goosed this essentially midrange card just enough to get away with selling it as a high end card. Typical Nvidia.

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Something that has me concerned about the 980 is the 256 memory bus. This would seem to be a liability for this card and limit its future potential, as well as limit its potential in SLI, since the reason to go with SLI is to play at higher resolutions, and I would think lower memory bandwidth would limit performance at higher resolutions, especially 4k.

 

The more I learn about this card the less I like. It just seems like this was a gimmick to boost sales and improve the profit margin per card sold with no effort to provide an actual upgrade in performance. This was about producing cards that cost less to manufacture than the 780/ti, and at least initially this cost reduction isn't going to be passed on to the consumer.

 

They seem to have goosed this essentially midrange card just enough to get away with selling it as a high end card. Typical Nvidia.

The 256 bit bus is not an issue. Just like AMD did the same on their new R9 285. It has to do with higher memory clock rates, fewer redundant data transfers and, in general, better more efficient use of the bandwidth. Nvidia and AMD engineers would not have implemented it if they knew it would be a bottleneck.

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The 256 bit bus is not an issue. Just like AMD did the same on their new R9 285. It has to do with higher memory clock rates, fewer redundant data transfers and, in general, better more efficient use of the bandwidth. Nvidia and AMD engineers would not have implemented it if they knew it would be a bottleneck.

 

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Silly OP getting the 760 and 670 mixed up.

How? The 760 is a toned down 670 in disguise.

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How? The 760 is a toned down 670 in disguise.

I believe the 760 is a tweaked and slightly faster 670. ;)

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, thanks. 

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I believe the 760 is a tweaked and slightly faster 670. ;)

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, thanks. 

How? The 760 is a toned down 670 in disguise.

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670 > 760, not 760 = 670 

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I am curious how long it will take untill we see these cards in the stores in Europe, can anyone guess based on the past generation cards?

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670 > 760, not 760 = 670 

I stand corrected. It appears the 670 is the faster card, but only very slightly - trading blows in most games. 

 

Thanks for clearing that up. :) I'm not as familiar with the Nvidia line up as I am with AMD's.

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I am curious how long it will take untill we see these cards in the stores in Europe, can anyone guess based on the past generation cards?

Have you just joined the conversation? Tomorrow. They will be in stores tomorrow.

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Already have a 780. but I'm waiting to hopefully see a little bit of a price drop on them and run them in SLI.

Unless real benchmarks show a significant increase with a 980 or better.

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Hopefully SLI 970s if they perform nearly as good as my R9 290 each by themselves for my 4K monitor, main reason for this is power here is 33c per kWH and my dad is only working a part time job due to studying a new course and my mum only works 5 hours for 4 days a week and the power bill is like $1500+ each quarter (used to be below $1000 a few years ago).

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I stand corrected. It appears the 670 is the faster card, but only very slightly - trading blows in most games.

Thanks for clearing that up. :) I'm not as familiar with the Nvidia line up as I am with AMD's.

I'm vise versa. I know little about the AMD line up. The 670 is a little better than a 760. Real world there is probably not a huge difference between the two.

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670 > 760, not 760 = 670 

 

It all depends on what cards you are comparing, they are close enough to say they are equal as far as I'm concerned. It's the same chip!

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I owned ASUS GTX 670 TOP & EVGA GTX 760 FTW and they were almost identical in performance and benchmarks.

 

Here and there one may out-perform the other but it's not by any huge margin.

 

I removed the comparisons since it has become a source for nitpicking! :P

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I see people complaining all the time about the lower bus, lower TDP and fewer cores. Whilst leaked benchmarks already point out that it can achieve the same level of performance as the full featured card (in this case 700-series with higher core count and memory bus interface and tdp) with the lower power requirements (and according to Videocardz: Lower cost at launch).

 

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The original rumor was that the 800 series which is now the 900 series was supposed to be priced better than previous *70 and *80 releases in the past. Since then...many have been playing the guessing game. Will Nvidia show us some love?! The Phillipines prices are relevant but as with anything, discounts for buying in bulk allow e-tailers like Newegg to price more competitively. I am in a unique financial position to buy any one of them but for me it's all about value. If the 980 is too high I will wait until the next series to purchase it and get a 970 or 780. I am curious to see what the pricing on the 780 Ti will be. The prices are going to go down on 700's...pretty much a given! In a few days all shall be revealed...

 

There, happy?!  :)

 

What will be your next upgrade?

If its all about value then i would think you would be looking for an AMD card since they clearly have a better price/perfomance ratio by far.

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