AMD R9 285 full specs shown

[Sidiox]

I agree...and that makes me feel old, preferring power point to a live twitch stream, but in our defense a rather weak and crappy one.

Haha, but you can integrate those slides into a Twitch Stream. Just talk over them, Nvidia does it, they have someone talking about the card and the benchmarks they are showing on screen, and alternate between a camera and the slides, yes it might be old fashioned, but when you are streaming to people who are "nerds" and know their way around tech, those slides atleast mean something. even the audience present today yelled that it wanted slides for crying out loud.

[Glenwing]

They really need to sort out their naming...

[Techhog]

This isn't even the shotgun approach anymore it's the nuke from orbit approach putting out twenty different versions of the same CPU and GPU core.

This isn't Tahiti.

[Cookie Monster]

Yay socialist taxation policies!

Hurray for the rest of the world subsidising American prices again.

[ZacDaMan72]

You wish. Thats Asus Strix. I would want AMD to make heatpipe design  even if its blower, at least like HIS with a nice quiet fan. 

 

285 is basicly almost same, with "Price cut" ( 1gb vram and bandwidth cut) and a bit better perf than 280.

Like...tech is now advancing in baby steps.

Says 2GB in the OP.

[Trik'Stari]

Hurray for the rest of the world subsidising American prices again.

How are we subsidizing your prices, when we just have lower taxes on imported goods? Blame your politicians and fellow countrymen for thinking government should pay for everything (which in reality means everyone pays for everything, regardless of whether or not they use it) i.e. socialism.

[geogga]

What? It's worse than the 280

What's the fucking point of the numerical chronological order (that usually correlates to power and performance) if the preceding GPU performs better than it?

RIP AMD...If I almost passed out now from reading this who knows what would've happened if I saw the stream?

[Techhog]

How are we subsidizing your prices, when we just have lower taxes on imported goods? Blame your politicians and fellow countrymen for thinking government should pay for everything (which in reality means everyone pays for everything, regardless of whether or not they use it) i.e. socialism.

Your avatar is appropriate.

[Victorious Secret]

Rest of the world subsidizing American prices? LULS.

 

Blame useless State Departments who can't negotiate trade agreements. 

 

Don't blame the US for being aggressive in keeping import taxes on things people need and buy as low as possible. 

 

[xAcid9]

What? It's worse than the 280

What's the fucking point of the numerical chronological order (that usually correlates to power and performance) if the preceding GPU performs better than it?

RIP AMD...If I almost passed out now from reading this who knows what would've happened if I saw the stream?

Why u say it worse than the 280?

[jmaster299]

Says 2GB in the OP.

Read his post again. He says 1GB of VRAM and and the bandwidth has been reduced.

 

And the 280 is cheaper lol 

The 280 is not cheaper. The 285 is releasing at $249, which is the same price as the 270X. But this card will outperform the 270X for that same price. Not counting nonsense like eBay, cheapest 280 I can find is from Diamond Multimedia. But they don't count much since no one buys from then. Even then it's discounted price is still more expensive at $259.

This card was never meant to beat the 280. I've tried telling people that but no one listen. It will come close to matching the 280, but the reduced core clock will keep it behind the 280, but the quicker memory clock will help in games that don't need more than 2GB of VRAM. Despite the confusing name, it is a card based on the chip from the 270X but with increased stream processes. So they should have called it a 275. The biggest thing about this card though is it will deliver 280 like performance, but use much less power like a 270X does. That also means it won't run as hot.

[ZacDaMan72]

Read his post again. He says 1GB of VRAM and and the bandwidth has been reduced.

 

The 280 is not cheaper. The 285 is releasing at $249, which is the same price as the 270X. But this card will outperform the 270X for that same price. Not counting nonsense like eBay, cheapest 280 I can find is from Diamond Multimedia. But they don't count much since no one buys from then. Even then it's discounted price is still more expensive at $259.

This card was never meant to beat the 280. I've tried telling people that but no one listen. It will come close to matching the 280, but the reduced core clock will keep it behind the 280, but the quicker memory clock will help in games that don't need more than 2GB of VRAM. Despite the confusing name, it is a card based on the chip from the 270X but with increased stream processes. So they should have called it a 275. The biggest thing about this card though is it will deliver 280 like performance, but use much less power like a 270X does. That also means it won't run as hot.

 

EDIT: 

[xAcid9]

Judging from the Firestrike score, this card is at least on par with the 280.

[Vrbas]

Read his post again. He says 1GB of VRAM and and the bandwidth has been reduced.

 

The 280 is not cheaper. The 285 is releasing at $249, which is the same price as the 270X. But this card will outperform the 270X for that same price. Not counting nonsense like eBay, cheapest 280 I can find is from Diamond Multimedia. But they don't count much since no one buys from then. Even then it's discounted price is still more expensive at $259.

This card was never meant to beat the 280. I've tried telling people that but no one listen. It will come close to matching the 280, but the reduced core clock will keep it behind the 280, but the quicker memory clock will help in games that don't need more than 2GB of VRAM. Despite the confusing name, it is a card based on the chip from the 270X but with increased stream processes. So they should have called it a 275. The biggest thing about this card though is it will deliver 280 like performance, but use much less power like a 270X does. That also means it won't run as hot.

How is the 280 not cheaper?

 

Gigabyte

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Radeon-Display-PCI-Express-GV-R928WF3OC-3GD/dp/B00J41A5GK/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408854709&sr=1-1&keywords=r9+280

 

Sapphire

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graphics-11230-00-20G/dp/B00IZXOW80/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408854709&sr=1-4&keywords=r9+280

 

Asus

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-R9280-DC2T-3GD5-ASUS-Graphics-Cards/dp/B00IXI5AT2/ref=sr_sp-atf_image_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408854709&sr=1-2&keywords=r9+280

 

MSI

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-R9-280-GAMING-3G/dp/B00JJNQ99U/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408854709&sr=1-5&keywords=r9+280

[jmaster299]

How is the 280 not cheaper?

 

Gigabyte

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Radeon-Display-PCI-Express-GV-R928WF3OC-3GD/dp/B00J41A5GK/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408854709&sr=1-1&keywords=r9+280

 

Sapphire

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Radeon-PCI-Express-Graphics-11230-00-20G/dp/B00IZXOW80/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408854709&sr=1-4&keywords=r9+280

 

Asus

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-R9280-DC2T-3GD5-ASUS-Graphics-Cards/dp/B00IXI5AT2/ref=sr_sp-atf_image_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408854709&sr=1-2&keywords=r9+280

 

MSI

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-R9-280-GAMING-3G/dp/B00JJNQ99U/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1408854709&sr=1-5&keywords=r9+280

Newegg has some messed up prices then....

Trust, I'm not actually defending AMD on this. Amazon has cheaper prices than Newegg, my bad. If this was Nvidia we would have 20 pages of hate by know. A deceptive name with pricing that doesn't make sense. No one would let the Green Team get away with that.

[azurezeed]

hopefully this will make other cards prices to drop

[Faceman]

The card looks beautiful, but im not sure what place it has in the current market.

[iNothing]

280 3gb vram

285 2gb vram 

wut

[Vrbas]

Newegg has some messed up prices then....

Trust, I'm not actually defending AMD on this. Amazon has cheaper prices than Newegg, my bad. If this was Nvidia we would have 20 pages of hate by know. A deceptive name with pricing that doesn't make sense. No one would let the Green Team get away with that.

Oh I agree if nVidia did this people would riot. I just don't see where AMD is going with this card, pretty pointless honestly. Guess we will have to wait and see Sept. 2.  I just hope they don't jack up the 280 prices when they realize they are cheaper.

[xc3ll]

I use a R9 280X in my main rig... And I'm really happy about this thread: Now I'm sure, that I don't need to return my card to get a 285

[Cookie Monster]

How are we subsidizing your prices, when we just have lower taxes on imported goods? Blame your politicians and fellow countrymen for thinking government should pay for everything (which in reality means everyone pays for everything, regardless of whether or not they use it) i.e. socialism.

If you look at the price excluding VAT/GST/sales tax there is a significant premium compared to US prices. Transport costs aren't significantly different for the major markets either.

 

It's market segmentation; separate more price sensitive customers and charge them less whilst making the rest pay more resulting in a higher ASP. America is effectively paying the equivalent of the child or pensioner price.

[SnowGhost1212]

AMD why you so boring. Well, at least the Cooler looks better.

[patrickjp93]

800 series is still a long wait and if amd hasn't refreshed by then which is most likely to happen, a price drop is a better response that this

Um, I believe the 800 series launches in January. That's not so far away.

[patrickjp93]

Hurray for the rest of the world subsidising American prices again.

Don't even go there. We subsidize your healthcare prices.

[jmaster299]

If you look at the price excluding VAT/GST/sales tax there is a significant premium compared to US prices. Transport costs aren't significantly different for the major markets either.

 

It's market segmentation; separate more price sensitive customers and charge them less whilst making the rest pay more resulting in a higher ASP. America is effectively paying the equivalent of the child or pensioner price

No, EU countries and other countries like Australia have stupidly high import fees/taxes. The cards are all being manufactured in various asian countries, and the US has little to no taxes/fees on imports from those countries. A lot of that has to do with pressure from China because they own so much of our debt, but that's why the US pays less. AMD is not jacking up the price by more than double, $500 euro/pound is more than double $249 US, just so they can keep prices in the US low on purpose. There is also no such thing as a federal (country wide) sales tax on anything in the US. All taxes are state/county/local taxes only. So someone in one city can pay less than someone in a different city.

Also, things like VAT are not the only tax/fee that is charged. VAT is just the tax that your country charges YOU for the goods. But before a single GPU is unloaded of a plane or ship, AMD has to pay import taxes directly your country and the European Union.