G-Sync vs Mantle

[N00B]

Which improves overall gameplay the most.

[Enderman]

What do you mean by useful?

They both 'drive' the card like they should...

Are you looking for additional features? What kind?

[JAKEBAB]

useful drivers?

 

Do u mean who has the most stable? If so alot of people think Nvidia does but when i built my very first pc it had an amd card and i had no problems with the drivers i think there equal but some people might disagree.

[CommanderMars]

I'm unsure of what your asking. However. Nvidia has some cool features like Shadow Play (GK 104s and above), Geforce Experience, and game streaming to a Nvidia Shield. 

[WoodenMarker]

Gsync improves gameplay more. It's much more expensive to implement than mantle though considering you also need a display that supports Gysnc. 

[X1XNobleX1X]

Which improves overall gameplay the most.

In my opinion G-Sync improves the overall game experience.

The two games Mantle does support, improve the game, but that is  only TWO games (BF4 and Theif), unlike G-Sync where it can be used for all games.

G-Sync does require you to buy a new monitor though for G-Sync. 

[fringie]

If you're wondering what's better then you should be comparing freesync with g-sync .

 

 

Mantle improves performance, g-sync improves the visual fluidity of games for the player.

 

Considering mantle hasn't take off I'd say g-sync but AMD is working on free-sync so it's a pretty irrelevant comparison.

[AlwaysFSX]

G-sync; removes tearing and lag, mostly.

[ForsakenLive]

Get the best GPU you can find on your pricepoint. G-Sync needs an expensive monitor to work, and Mantle has only 2-3 games that use it.

[seaking177]

i think you mean G-sync and Freesync...

 

but as it stands right now...

 

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/catalyst

screen recording, good OpenGL support (it looks like, i dont have an AMD card) and FreeSync with displayport.

 

http://www.geforce.com/geforce-experience

screen recording (and ghost recording, up to the last 20 minutes), G-sync, gamestream (nvidia shield needed)

 

G-sync = need a special monitor = more $

FreeSync (when its out) = any displayport monitor that supports it.

 

really depends what you want, honestly.

 

if anyone else has more information then i do on this (im sure everyone else knows more) then go ahead and add onto this !

[D3MON]

If you're wondering what's better then you should be comparing freesync with g-sync .

 

 

Mantle improves performance, g-sync improves the visual fluidity of games for the player.

 

Considering mantle hasn't take off I'd say g-sync but AMD is working on free-sync so it's a pretty irrelevant comparison.

err actually lots of games use mantle, google it.

g-sync however is still in beta...

[fringie]

err actually lots of games use mantle, google it.

g-sync however is still in beta...

10 games (none I play as of right now) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_(API) ; that's not a lot of games.

 

You can buy g-sync kits and monitors that natively have g-sync are going to be coming out v-soon. So no, it's not in beta right now.

[Leonard]

Which improves overall gameplay the most.

 These frigging companies just trying to confuse us and steal our money....enough about the rant....None of us know that yet G-sync is not out for the masses and mantel is for a few games with others in the works but by the looks of things g-sync looks the better deal as it is in the monitor and every thing should be benefiting from it.

[SlaughterSmurf]

Very few people have used G-Sync so odds are nobody here can give you an accurate answer.

[D3MON]

10 games (none I play as of right now) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_(API) ; that's not a lot of games.

 

You can buy g-sync kits and monitors that natively have g-sync are going to be coming out v-soon. So no, it's not in beta right now.

10 modern titles is allot more than 6 monitors "ranging from 1080p to 3840x2160, the resolution of choice for 4k gaming"- not that 1080p 4k gaming then??? I quite liked that.

[fringie]

10 modern titles is allot more than 6 monitors "ranging from 1080p to 3840x2160, the resolution of choice for 4k gaming"- not that 1080p 4k gaming then??? I quite liked that.

I don't know if it's because it's 5am and I'm tired but I don't understand the second half of your post; please can you re-state it differently for me?

 

But either way, I'd say 10 games isn't a lot. I know g-sync isn't common at the moment but it's not in beta.

[D3MON]

I don't know if it's because it's 5am and I'm tired but I don't understand the second half of your post; please can you re-state it differently for me?

 

But either way, I'd say 10 games isn't a lot. I know g-sync isn't common at the moment but it's not in beta.

5am here to (uk) id say considering how many big titles are released each year that a fair few of those 10 are big titles so that is a lot (its all relative) and its likely to grow faster than g-sync because its non proprietary, bit like cuda vs open cl...

the latter part is what it says on the nvidia page i was looking at to see if its stil beta, maybe its not now but it has been for ages with people having driver issues.

as for myself personally, ive wondered which matters more to me, I think I'd rather have 60fps pinned and never dipping then a smoother/non-tearing  35-45-55fps scenario (i like to have as much data to my eye as fast as possible so fps wins out, kind of how people will turn battlefield settings down to medium just to get really high framerates.) I imagine others who run higher end cards with 120hz monitors might prefer 80+fps with the possibility of tearing over 60fps pinned....everyone to thier own.

a newer api which leads to less limitiation and more performance while also giving us something consoles dont have has been asked for by the #pcmaasterrace for 10 years, tearings been a problem aswell sure, but its solution should NOT be proprietary, amd has done allot of things over the decades in the name of tress fx, TONS of open source help

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and advancement like open cl and others aswell as bringing 64bit to the table and so on, all nvidia seems to do is lock down the ecosystem for a cost much like apple does, because that really helps us doesn't it.....(this is largely the reason i switched and will if nvidia keeps up unlikely switch back, also amd has better £/fps and GCN has worked very well for me)

as for the crux of the question "which is better", for now it comes down to every individual and what gripes you most, overall, neither, we all need both.

[Humbug]

I don't think it's a valid question. They serve totally different purposes.

It's like asking which is more important to a car; tires or suspension. They do different things.

 

Mantle is important for the industry because it has demonstrated that traditional graphics APIs DirectX and OpenGL are inefficient. It has been demonstrated that they use too many CPU cycles to do a job which can be achieved with less CPU cycles. They have exposed some bad legacy engineering which needs to be corrected and it will help to drive performance forward in the future.

 

Gsync has brought about a solution to a long standing problem. i.e. Monitors being out of sync with graphics cards and hence tearing. All of us assumed that the only solution to this problem is to have a GPU capable of rendering frames faster than the monitors refresh rate, and then turn on VSYNC and use triple buffering to solve the latency issue. Nvidia has demonstrated a better solution where the monitor syncs with the VGA, rather than vice versa. So zero latency from VGA to display, and zero tearing.

 

Neither are going to become industry standards. But both have demonstrated technology which will drive the industry forward.