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Need Some Advice on Upgrading PC

Budget (including currency): $300-$500

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Baldurs Gate, Rainbow Six, and Apex Legends

 

I am far from an expert of pc building so I am seeking some advice on upgrading my CPU right now as that seems to be my current bottle neck for gaming.   

 

Here is my current build:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2060

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB

Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING A520M-PLUS WIFI 

Power Supply: EVGA 600 GD 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

 

What CPU would give me a noticeable upgrade?

 

Also, would I need to upgrade my power supply to better handle just a GPU upgrade or should I upgrade it for the CPU?

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, BananaS3RF said:

Budget (including currency): $300-$500

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Baldurs Gate, Rainbow Six, and Apex Legends

 

I am far from an expert of pc building so I am seeking some advice on upgrading my CPU right now as that seems to be my current bottle neck for gaming.   

 

Here is my current build:

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800x 

GPU: Nvidia RTX 2060

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB

Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING A520M-PLUS WIFI 

Power Supply: EVGA 600 GD 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply

 

What CPU would give me a noticeable upgrade?

 

Also, would I need to upgrade my power supply to better handle just a GPU upgrade or should I upgrade it for the CPU?

 

Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

I would absolutely upgrade the motherboard, a520 does not have the robustness to run a 5800x at the power it should be run at.

As for CPU, the 5800x is great, if anything I'd say GPU over CPU.

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16 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

I would absolutely upgrade the motherboard, a520 does not have the robustness to run a 5800x at the power it should be run at.

As for CPU, the 5800x is great, if anything I'd say GPU over CPU.

looks like one of the better a520 boards since the vrms are basically the same as a b550m-a

 

wouldnt waste any more money on am4 anyways aside from maybe dropping in a used 5800x3d or new 5700x3d and only if thatd 250$ or under and even then still pretty bad value considering theres a microcenter 7700x bundle for 380$ with a good board and 32gb 6000c32 ddr5 included

 

better off just reselling the current combo for like 150-200$ and not only do you save money but get a cpu thatll still match or outright beat a 5800x3d and a mobo + rams that dont need to be swapped when you drop in a future cpu, and theres also a 7800x3d combo for 480$ so thatd be even better

 

heck this even goes hand in hand with a gpu upgrade cause if you go for a 7700x bundle and resell your cpu + mobo + ram combo for 150-200$ the budget might even allow for a used 3080 once haggled down abit from the 350$ they usually go for and theres also used 6800xt/6900xt/6950xt

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a 5800X isn't really gonna be your bottleneck beyond a couple FPS
 

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GPU and PSU all the way. Or just get a the highest GPU your budget can afford. 600w would still be plenty, just do undervolt both gpu and cpu, for stability. That motherboard is decent even for a b520. 5800x is still decent and won't bottleneck current mid range gpus specially at higher resolutions. PSU is decent and you can still work around your way around it. Ram, 3600mhz is the sweet spot for 5000 series, but improvement is minute. It would probably better if you just try to tighten the timings and/or try to oc the ram.

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7 minutes ago, OddOod said:

a 5800X isn't really gonna be your bottleneck beyond a couple FPS

 

6 minutes ago, kitnoman said:

GPU and PSU all the way. Or just get a the highest GPU your budget can afford. 600w would still be plenty, just do undervolt both gpu and cpu, for stability. That motherboard is decent even for a b520. 5800x is still decent and won't bottleneck current mid range gpus specially at higher resolutions. PSU is decent and you can still work around your way around it. Ram, 3600mhz is the sweet spot for 5000 series, but improvement is minute. It would probably better if you just try to tighten the timings and/or try to oc the ram.

forgot to mention the 5800x is still pretty decent

 

id rather just slot in a used 3080(ti) or 6800xt/6900xt/6950xt + psu upgrade if required (probably will be for the 3080 but i think the others will be fine) then save up for a 7800x3d bundle, 5800x will do just fine in the meantime

 

yes you can boost it abit my running the rams at 1:1 fclk or somewhere around 3800-4000 for most chips, just check thaiphoon burner for ram ic and find a 3800 oc profile for it online and plug and play (minor adjustments may be neccesary), might even see some benifit from tuning the tertiaries but those are kind of a pain to tweak even if you tweak multiple at once like i do

 

wouldnt bother going new as its a sidegrade at best and you spend 150$ extra for the same performance of a used gpu, also means you can save up for a better platform faster

heres some benchmarks with the new gpus youd get at 500$ (4070 7800xt) vs used gpus youd get at ~350$ (3080 6800xt)

 

psu wise if an upgrade is neccesary id reccomend a 1200w d.f.x at 111$ cause its 1200w with a 10 year warranty whilst being dirt cheap for that wattage, id usually reccomend an 850w gf1 thats usually 95$ but i think an extra 350w of psu wattage for only 16$ extra is worth it as id expect 12-17+ years out of any higher quality psu

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5800X3D + GPU upgrade would probably do the trick.

 

Edit: Some weird games really like 32GBs of RAM but doubt it is a concern.

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On 5/10/2024 at 10:06 PM, BiotechBen said:

I would absolutely upgrade the motherboard, a520 does not have the robustness to run a 5800x at the power it should be run at.

As for CPU, the 5800x is great, if anything I'd say GPU over CPU.

I didn't even know that the motherboard could be the bottleneck, thx for the advice I will plan to upgrade my GPU most likely.

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