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Some things to know about Milkyway that you guys need to be aware of.

 

1. They have multi threaded tasks that will use up to 16 threads per task. 

  • I don't think 16 threads is the most optimum, but ive never fully tested what the best amount of threads are
  • You can make the change on the web site on how many threads they use.

2. They have single threaded tasks of the same type that will only run on 1 thread.

  • I have not figured out how to select which tasks the server sends. It seems to be random at first.
  • The single threaded tasks should be fine however.

3. This is a quorum of 2 project. It might say quorum of 1, but its not.

  • When you download the task only 1 will be created.
  • When you return the task it will go into "validation inconclusive"
  • Validation inconclusive will trigger the server to generate the wingman task to send out for validation

So when you start returning a bunch of tasks and see they all land in the "validation inconclusive" category do not be alarmed. The server generated a wingman task and will send it out for validation.

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25 minutes ago, SkillzTA said:

3. This is a quorum of 2 project. It might say quorum of 1, but its not.

  • When you download the task only 1 will be created.
  • When you return the task it will go into "validation inconclusive"
  • Validation inconclusive will trigger the server to generate the wingman task to send out for validation

This project just has an... idiosyncratic way of doing quorum 2 😄

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I just 'No New Tasks' all my systems. Should have done it sooner but I went to sleep 😅

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1 hour ago, SkillzTA said:
  • Validation inconclusive will trigger the server to generate the wingman task to send out for validation

 

If you're saying the wingman task is created AFTER the inital task is retruned, does that mean bunkering is a bad strategy? I assume you don't get credit before the wingman task completes?-

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Also any hints about NFS? With or without hyperthreading?

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13 minutes ago, McDaWisel said:

 

If you're saying the wingman task is created AFTER the inital task is retruned, does that mean bunkering is a bad strategy? I assume you don't get credit before the wingman task completes?-

 

Bunkering would be tricky with since you are correct. You wont get points until after both tasks are returned and validated.

 

8 minutes ago, McDaWisel said:

Also any hints about NFS? With or without hyperthreading?

 

Geez, you just want me to spill all the secrets here?

 

 

I don't think it makes much of a different with or without and if it does then it probably leans towards HT/SMT being enabled.

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Come on guys, one last push. 

 

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11 hours ago, leadeater said:

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40 minutes ago, leadeater said:

I just 'No New Tasks' all my systems. Should have done it sooner but I went to sleep 😅

 

I set mine to NNW a while back, but they still aren't done. I am only keeping them going to complete anyone's wingman I might be since apparently I have a good chunk of peoples tasks. So it's gonna ride till the end before I switch my hosts to MW or NFS which I should have done hours ago. 

 

 

3 minutes ago, leadeater said:

@SkillzTA HAH! Jinx 🙃

 

Soon as I seen you post that I was like oh boy, this gonna be good. LOL

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SkillzTA said:

I set mine to NNW a while back, but they still aren't done. I am only keeping them going to complete anyone's wingman I might be since apparently I have a good chunk of peoples tasks. So it's gonna ride till the end before I switch my hosts to MW or NFS which I should have done hours ago. 

My worst has eta 22 hours, Numbers 3 days so I'll be running some project for quite a bit after the Pent 😅

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4 minutes ago, leadeater said:

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NFS seems very memory intensive.

Switching back to single-threaded... running 16 tasks, I'm at 75% memory use (32GB)

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2 minutes ago, McDaWisel said:

NFS seems very memory intensive.

Switching back to single-threaded... running 16 tasks, I'm at 75% memory use (32GB)

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You can change your computing preferences to allow it to use more of your total memory if you want to squeeze out a bit more.

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is there a way to limit the number of active tasks in NFS?

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5 minutes ago, cmtedouglas said:

is there a way to limit the number of active tasks in NFS?

Easier to do it in BOIC Manager

 

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FYI 16e V5 gives the most credit for run time but uses a bit more ram than others. Both 16e applications are a good compromise when you can't solely do 16e V5.

 

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16e Lattice Sieve for smaller numbers is ~1000 seconds for 50 points

16e Lattice Sieve V5 is ~2000 seconds for 130 points

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Also I had a look back on BOINCStats for my best daily and the outright best I've done in one day was 5m a few years ago. Current best throw was ~10m so we're going to need to do around that to get around 3rd or 4th.

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2 hours ago, cmtedouglas said:

is there a way to limit the number of active tasks in NFS?

You can create an app_config.xml file 

 

<app_config>
<project_max_concurrent>N</project_max_concurrent>

</app_config>

 

Just change "N" to how many you want to run.

You would put that file in the BOINC project folder. On Windows it is typically C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\escatter11.fullerton.edu_nfs

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