What would be a good upgrade from a Ryzen 9 3900X?

[LukeCorbishley]

I don't want to spend too much but what would be a good CPU to upgrade to that supports DDR5 and will give me better performance in Gaming and video editing?

[TatamiMatt]

7 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

I don't want to spend too much but what would be a good CPU to upgrade to that supports DDR5 and will give me better performance in Gaming and video editing?

Do you need DDR5, on your current platform you can stick with your current RAM and should be able to keep your motherboard too if its good enough and upgrade to 5000 series at a much lower cost

[LukeCorbishley]

1 minute ago, TatamiMatt said:

Do you need DDR5, on your current platform you can stick with your current RAM and should be able to keep your motherboard too if its good enough and upgrade to 5000 series at a much lower cost

I don't necessarily need DDR5 but from what I have looked at already I would see benefits upgrading to DDR5 when it comes to Rendering the videos I am editing, I'm looking to get a new Motherboard anyway as the one I have doesn't have WiFi onboard and that's something I'm looking for (I snapped the antennas off my WiFi Card twice) 

[Kilrah]

If you want DDR5 support you're replacing your motherboard and RAM too. Probably better to stick to AM4 CPUs.

[LukeCorbishley]

2 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

If you want DDR5 support you're replacing your motherboard and RAM too. Probably better to stick to AM4 CPUs.

I am more than happy to replace both my motherboard and RAM too

[TatamiMatt]

3 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

I am more than happy to replace both my motherboard and RAM too

Okie, do you have a budget to work with then?

[LukeCorbishley]

Just now, TatamiMatt said:

Okie, do you have a budget to work with then?

At the moment I'm just looking at options but for the CPU alone I'd be looking at no more then £500 but wanting it to cost as little as possible. I don't mind if it's Intel or AMD Either just whatever will get be the best performance. Preferable it will cost closer to £300 but I know that's unrealistic.

[TatamiMatt]

4 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

At the moment I'm just looking at options but for the CPU alone I'd be looking at no more then £500 but wanting it to cost as little as possible. I don't mind if it's Intel or AMD Either just whatever will get be the best performance. Preferable it will cost closer to £300 but I know that's unrealistic.

300 is doable, for just the CPU that is? Do you need a lot of I/O on the motherboard? How much RAM?

[ToboRobot]

You can add PCIe or USB WiFi, and upgrade the CPU to a Ryzen 5000 series.  That would be the cost effective option. 

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/amd-ryzen-9-5900x-twelve-core-4.8ghz-socket-am4-processor-retail-cp-3ca-am.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-pce-ax3000-dual-band-wireless-ax3000-wifi-6-bluetooth-5.0-pci-e-adap-nw-11e-as.html

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/tp-link-archer-ac600-dual-band-wireless-usb-adapter-archer-t2u-nw-121-tp.html

[LukeCorbishley]

1 minute ago, TatamiMatt said:

300 is doable, for just the CPU that is? Do you need a lot of I/O on the motherboard? How much RAM?

Yeah that's for just the CPU and the motherboard doesn't need too much I/O just needs WiFi onboard. I will be getting 32GB of RAM to start with, eventually upgrading to 64GB

[LukeCorbishley]

2 minutes ago, ToboRobot said:

You can add PCIe or USB WiFi, and upgrade the CPU to a Ryzen 5000 series.  That would be the cost effective option.

I know, I currently have a PCIe card for WiFi but as I said above I keep knocking the PC when moving it and have snapped the antenna off 2 different cards

[TatamiMatt]

3 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

Yeah that's for just the CPU and the motherboard doesn't need too much I/O just needs WiFi onboard. I will be getting 32GB of RAM to start with, eventually upgrading to 64GB

DDR5 works MUCH better in dual channel, i.e. 2 sticks, it can be very unstable with 4 sticks and will run slower regardless. How much would you be willing to spend on RAM, it might be cheaper than you think

 

1 minute ago, LukeCorbishley said:

I know, I currently have a PCIe card for WiFi but as I said above I keep knocking the PC when moving it and have snapped the antenna off 2 different cards

Wifi enabled motherboards also come with those rear antennae though

 

Also where are you based so i can switch over PCPartPicker List for accurate pricing

[LukeCorbishley]

1 minute ago, TatamiMatt said:

DDR5 works MUCH better in dual channel, i.e. 2 sticks, it can be very unstable with 4 sticks and will run slower regardless. How much would you be willing to spend on RAM, it might be cheaper than you think

I've seen some Corsair Vengence 7000MHz for around £140 for 32GB (2x16GB) so something around that, I want the best I can get to future-proof for a while. I didn't know it was unstable with 4 sticks, that's good to know!

[TatamiMatt]

Just now, LukeCorbishley said:

I've seen some Corsair Vengence 7000MHz for around £140 for 32GB (2x16GB) so something around that, I want the best I can get to future-proof for a while. I didn't know it was unstable with 4 sticks, that's good to know!

 

$670 for CPU, 64GB RAM, mobo and cooler?

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z29N4M

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($274.27 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $670.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 07:33 EDT-0400

[TatamiMatt]

1 minute ago, LukeCorbishley said:

I've seen some Corsair Vengence 7000MHz for around £140 for 32GB (2x16GB) so something around that, I want the best I can get to future-proof for a while. I didn't know it was unstable with 4 sticks, that's good to know!

Its gotten better with recent BIOS revisions but DDR5s ideal run state is 2 sticks in dual channel

[ToboRobot]

5 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

I know, I currently have a PCIe card for WiFi but as I said above I keep knocking the PC when moving it and have snapped the antenna off 2 different cards

As mentioned, motherboards with WiFi built in have the same antenna, so you need to figure out what you are doing wrong when moving the computer. 

 

[LukeCorbishley]

Just now, TatamiMatt said:

 

$670 for CPU, 64GB RAM, mobo and cooler?

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z29N4M

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($274.27 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $670.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 07:33 EDT-0400

I know that CPUs have come on quite a bit but how much of an upgrade would the Ryzen 7 7700X be over my current CPU

[LukeCorbishley]

Just now, ToboRobot said:

As mentioned, motherboards with WiFi built in have the same antenna, so you need to figure out what you are doing wrong when moving the computer. 

 

Fair enough, bit stupid of me to assume it doesn't have antenna. I will consider this, thank you!

[TatamiMatt]

2 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

I know that CPUs have come on quite a bit but how much of an upgrade would the Ryzen 7 7700X be over my current CPU

Its a decent upgrade but its not an insane upgrade, if you want can go for 7900X for an extra hundred

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nfHzdH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($372.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($35.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $768.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 07:37 EDT-0400

[LukeCorbishley]

8 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Also where are you based so i can switch over PCPartPicker List for accurate pricing

Sorry missed this, I am based in the UK

[ToboRobot]

1 minute ago, LukeCorbishley said:

I know that CPUs have come on quite a bit but how much of an upgrade would the Ryzen 7 7700X be over my current CPU

CSGO

7700XT 418 FPS

5900X 343 FPS
3900X 233 FPS

[LukeCorbishley]

Just now, ToboRobot said:

CSGO

7700XT 418 FPS

5900X 343 FPS
3900X 233 FPS

Oh right, amazing, much better upgrade then I thought. Think at first I was being a bit snobby about going from a Ryzen 9 to a Ryzen 7 

[TatamiMatt]

2 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

Sorry missed this, I am based in the UK

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nfHzdH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£354.99 @ AWD-IT) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£159.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£218.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £768.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 11:39 GMT+0000

 

Same price then sadly, we have awful part pricing in the UK compared to the US huh

[LukeCorbishley]

Just now, TatamiMatt said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/nfHzdH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£354.99 @ AWD-IT) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£159.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£218.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £768.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 11:39 GMT+0000

 

Same price then sadly, we have awful part pricing in the UK compared to the US huh

It's crazy it costs the same price with £1 being $1.20

[TatamiMatt]

1 minute ago, LukeCorbishley said:

It's crazy it costs the same price with £1 being $1.20

Oh its nuts, I'm looking at the 79000xtx nitro+ £1029 here and $1059 in the US

 

Ill be paying the equivalent of $1300 for the same product people in the US are getting for $1060

 

Going the other way around (cus id say you know £'s better)

 

Id pay £1029, the US would pay £840