What would be a good upgrade from a Ryzen 9 3900X?

[LukeCorbishley]

1 minute ago, TatamiMatt said:

Oh its nuts, I'm looking at the 79000xtx nitro+ £1029 here and $1059 in the US

 

Ill be paying the equivalent of $1300 for the same product people in the US are getting for $1060

 

Going the other way around (cus id say you know £'s better)

 

Id pay £1029, the US would pay £840

I don't get how they can get away with it, it must be something to do with taxes otherwise I cannot understand how the pricing works

[TatamiMatt]

3 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

It's crazy it costs the same price with £1 being $1.20

Also just an FYI, because of how the 7900X works with 2 CCDs working in parallel, its great for heavily multithreaded productivity loads, but its on par or slightly worse than the 7700X in gaming, even though it has more cores, more cache and is clocked higher.

 

Oh million dollar question, whats the main use case? Is it mainly gaming or mainly productivity?

[LukeCorbishley]

Just now, TatamiMatt said:

Also just an FYI, because of how the 7900X works with 2 CCDs working in parallel, its great for heavily multithreaded productivity loads, but its on par or slightly worse than the 7700X in gaming, even though it has more cores, more cache and is clocked higher.

 

Oh million dollar question, whats the main use case? Is it mainly gaming or mainly productivity?

That really is a difficult question! When the new F1 games and new GTA come out then I have to say it would be a lot of gaming but for now it's more editing

[TatamiMatt]

10 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

That really is a difficult question! When the new F1 games and new GTA come out then I have to say it would be a lot of gaming but for now it's more editing

F1 games shold be easy enough to run, likewise with GTA, either 7900X or 7700X will be more than capable, the main decision then is if you want to spend that extra hundred quid for better productivity performance or if the 7700X will be adequate, sadly theres no in between this generation of CPUs

[LukeCorbishley]

2 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

F1 games shold be easy enough to run, likewise with GTA, either 7900X or 7700X will be more than capable, the main decision then is if you want to spend that extra hundred quid for better productivity performance or if the 7700X will be adequate, sadly theres no in between this generation of CPUs

I think I will have to look a bit more into the specific differences between them in different workloads and see if it is worth the price tag

[TatamiMatt]

Synthetic productivity workloads

 

https://technical.city/en/cpu/Ryzen-9-7900X-vs-Ryzen-7-7700X

 

Gaming

[LukeCorbishley]

3 minutes ago, TatamiMatt said:

Synthetic productivity workloads

 

https://technical.city/en/cpu/Ryzen-9-7900X-vs-Ryzen-7-7700X

 

Gaming

Now I really don't know what to do, think I'm going to have to plan some systems in PC part picker and compare prices

[TatamiMatt]

4 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

Now I really don't know what to do, think I'm going to have to plan some systems in PC part picker and compare prices

What exactly is your conundrum? I might be able to answer some queries

[LukeCorbishley]

The issue is mainly with the Price to performance of each, as much as they are fairly equal in gaming having the extra horsepower for the multithreaded workflows would be very nice to have. It's all coming down to the price of each to be honest

[TatamiMatt]

4 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

The issue is mainly with the Price to performance of each, as much as they are fairly equal in gaming having the extra horsepower for the multithreaded workflows would be very nice to have. It's all coming down to the price of each to be honest

Also, just to update you, current pricing for both in UK as i never gave you the 7700X in UK pricing, might help your decision?

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z29N4M

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£284.99 @ CCL Computers) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£159.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£218.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £698.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 12:10 GMT+0000

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mt7XqR

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£345.96 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£159.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£218.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £759.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 12:11 GMT+0000

 

only £60 of difference

[LukeCorbishley]

Just now, TatamiMatt said:

Also, just to update you, current pricing for both in UK as i never gave you the 7700X in UK pricing, might help your decision?

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Z29N4M

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£284.99 @ CCL Computers) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£159.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£218.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £698.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 12:10 GMT+0000

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/mt7XqR

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£345.96 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-S WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£159.95 @ AWD-IT) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£218.90 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £759.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 12:11 GMT+0000

 

only £60 of difference

For only £60 I might just go for the Ryzen 9, seems silly not to if its such a small difference in comparison

[TatamiMatt]

7 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

For only £60 I might just go for the Ryzen 9, seems silly not to if its such a small difference in comparison

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/D2kXqR

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor  (£345.96 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  (£35.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Motherboard: MSI B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard  (£149.00 @ Computer Orbit) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  (£212.78 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £742.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-28 12:21 GMT+0000

 

Better motherboard for a pound less there

[GuiltySpark_]

1 hour ago, LukeCorbishley said:

I will be getting 32GB of RAM to start with, eventually upgrading to 64GB

Hopefully by replacing the kit entirely as adding more DIMM's is never smart, even more so with DDR5. (unless of course you're willing to lower speeds manually)

[OddOod]

A 7700X would probably only give you a 10% uplift in all core, a 5950x would likely give you a 25-30% uplift with no need to swap mobo or RAM

[LukeCorbishley]

1 hour ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Hopefully by replacing the kit entirely as adding more DIMM's is never smart, even more so with DDR5. (unless of course you're willing to lower speeds manually)

Yes it will be a full replacement!

[LukeCorbishley]

Okay, that gives me something new to think about! I will have a look thank you! I assumed the newest gen would give me much better performance

[GuiltySpark_]

2 minutes ago, LukeCorbishley said:

Okay, that gives me something new to think about! I will have a look thank you! I assumed the newest gen would give me much better performance

Ryzen 7000, especially x3D, is significantly faster in gaming than any Ryzen 3000 part.