9 fans, hub, but no speed control?

[ramm]

Hello,

 

I have received AR12 9 fans from the brand "Aigo". They aren't your standard coolermaster or corsair quality, but still look pretty decent. However i'm a bit puzzled how to connect them. There seem to be 6pin connectors that go to a hub, the hub gets power from Sata and there is one connector that says M/B (motherboard?) which seems to be a standard 3pin rgb connector.

 

So how do these fans control their speed? Are they spinning at a constant speed? Because if so, that has been a huge oversight obviously and then my only option is to figure out which 3 out of 6 of the wires are speed and which 3/6 of the wires are rgb to do some custom soldering?

 

 

Thanks for the help

[DoctorNick]

41 minutes ago, ramm said:

Hello,

 

I have received AR12 9 fans from the brand "Aigo". They aren't your standard coolermaster or corsair quality, but still look pretty decent. However i'm a bit puzzled how to connect them. There seem to be 6pin connectors that go to a hub, the hub gets power from Sata and there is one connector that says M/B (motherboard?) which seems to be a standard 3pin rgb connector.

 

So how do these fans control their speed? Are they spinning at a constant speed? Because if so, that has been a huge oversight obviously and then my only option is to figure out which 3 out of 6 of the wires are speed and which 3/6 of the wires are rgb to do some custom soldering?

 

 

 

Thanks for the help

They could are voltage regulated, not PWM. You should be able to change that in BIOS on most boards.

[ramm]

44 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

They could are voltage regulated, not PWM. You should be able to change that in BIOS on most boards.

Im sorry I dont follow, they are only connected through a Sata cable and a "M/B" connector which appears to be an rgb header (I could be wrong).

 

So how does it know how to increase the speed then when my system is under load? Through this "M/B" connector only? Because Sata power is constant.

 

Maybe im a bit oldschool because I expected a seperate 4pin header and seperate rgb connector on the fans? Not a 6 pin?

[NorKris]

this hub is a device u have right? 

[ramm]

7 minutes ago, NorKris said:

this hub is a device u have right? 

yes it came with the fans

 

I just inspected this M/B connector it has 3 pins, it is 4pin size, but only 2 cables come out.

 

Im really puzzled how this system is supposed to do the speed?

 

So the thick sata cable is for power, then I can plug up to 10 fans in this hub, then there is this cable coming "M/B Sync" which I think you connect to your motherboard, but I have no idea how. It is only 2 wires. That cant be correct, right? And the plug seems to be like a 3pin/4pin rgb connector.

 

How is that gonna do the speed using only 2 wires?

[NorKris]

2 minutes ago, ramm said:

yes it came with the fans

 

I just inspected this M/B connector it has 3 pins, it is 4pin size, but only 2 cables come out.

 

Im really puzzled how this system is supposed to do the speed?

 

So the thick sata cable is for power, then I can plug up to 10 fans in this hub, then there is this cable coming "M/B Sync" which I think you connect to your motherboard, but I have no idea how. It is only 2 wires. That cant be correct, right? And the plug seems to be like a 3pin/4pin rgb connector.

 

How is that gonna do the speed using only 2 wires?

ty, picture of the beast was what i was after.  that looks to me  just like a ARGB hub

[ramm]

11 minutes ago, NorKris said:

ty, picture of the beast was what i was after.  that looks to me  just like a ARGB hub

So it is just for RGB? How to connect the fans and the fan speed? Im so confused right now, I expected these fans to work like any other fan I ever used.

[PDifolco]

13 minutes ago, ramm said:

yes it came with the fans

 

I just inspected this M/B connector it has 3 pins, it is 4pin size, but only 2 cables come out.

 

Im really puzzled how this system is supposed to do the speed?

 

So the thick sata cable is for power, then I can plug up to 10 fans in this hub, then there is this cable coming "M/B Sync" which I think you connect to your motherboard, but I have no idea how. It is only 2 wires. That cant be correct, right? And the plug seems to be like a 3pin/4pin rgb connector.

 

How is that gonna do the speed using only 2 wires?

The small cable is RGB, the power comes from SATA so no software/PWM regulation, only voltage, try 5V to have slower speeds

If you want something controllable get PWM fans and hub

 

[ramm]

1 minute ago, PDifolco said:

The small cable is RGB, the power comes from SATA so no software/PWM regulation, only voltage, try 5V to have slower speeds

If you want something controllable get PWM fans and hub

 

What do you mean try 5v? It is just a sata connector?

[NorKris]

5 minutes ago, ramm said:

So it is just for RGB? How to connect the fans and the fan speed? 

like a wise guy once said:  "when u cheap out, u pay for that with fustration and ur time "

 

4 minutes ago, ramm said:

I expected these fans to work like any other fan I ever used.

i dont know if u knew these fans had a 6pin connector, but 4pin is what u need to look for  

[ramm]

5 minutes ago, NorKris said:

like a wise guy once said:  "when u cheap out, u pay for that with fustration and ur time "

 

i dont know if u knew these fans had a 6pin connector, but 4pin is what u need to look for  

Yes definately another lesson, but i really didnt expect them to mess up a simple fan connector

 

but my idea of soldering it? Or finding like a splitter cable that splits the fan control and rgb control?

[PDifolco]

6 minutes ago, ramm said:

What do you mean try 5v? It is just a sata connector?

SATA can do 3.3V/5V/12V, the less you use the slower fans will be

Check if you can regulate it in BIOS or on the hub it may have a switch or such

[ramm]

2 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

SATA can do 3.3V/5V/12V, the less you use the slower fans will be

Check if you can regulate it in BIOS or on the hub it may have a switch or such

Oh I didnt know this, so if my PC gets hot, it will increase the power from the PSU to the Sata cables?

[NorKris]

4 minutes ago, ramm said:

but my idea of soldering it?

will be hard. unless u have a multimeter 

 

or u can screew up the plastic box around the hub, and see if they have marked were the  ground, 5v and 12v is. 

[PDifolco]

7 minutes ago, ramm said:

Oh I didnt know this, so if my PC gets hot, it will increase the power from the PSU to the Sata cables?

Not really practical but why not

 

Really a PWM hub and fans will be 1000% better, sure it's a bit more expensive

[Blasty Blosty]

If the fans are 6-pin, it will be 3 for RGB and 3 for power. My old cheap fans were like this, they will just run at 100% all of the time, unless it came with a remote control.

[Blasty Blosty]

I just got used to the noise, trust me you won't notice after a week or so of using it, unless the white noise of fans tends to bother you

[ramm]

17 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

If the fans are 6-pin, it will be 3 for RGB and 3 for power. My old cheap fans were like this, they will just run at 100% all of the time, unless it came with a remote control.

Yes they come with a remote control I thought it was only for RGB but also for fan speed. But still that is useless to me, I just want my PC to do the speed because I use it all throughout the day for light and heavy workloads.

 

Ithink the best way for me is figure out which cables are RGB and which are fan speed, then just solder fan controllers on the 3 wires

[Blasty Blosty]

Sounds like a lot of work that I would never do, but if you've got the skills I don't see why not

[RevGAM]

5 hours ago, ramm said:

Hello,

 

I have received AR12 9 fans from the brand "Aigo". They aren't your standard coolermaster or corsair quality, but still look pretty decent. However i'm a bit puzzled how to connect them. There seem to be 6pin connectors that go to a hub, the hub gets power from Sata and there is one connector that says M/B (motherboard?) which seems to be a standard 3pin rgb connector.

 

So how do these fans control their speed? Are they spinning at a constant speed? Because if so, that has been a huge oversight obviously and then my only option is to figure out which 3 out of 6 of the wires are speed and which 3/6 of the wires are rgb to do some custom soldering?

 

 

Thanks for the help

Crap brand, crap fans. The fan speed can only be controlled with the included RC. You're better off getting good PWM or even 3-pin fans,  but you can certainly rewire them if you know how. 

[ramm]

29 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Crap brand, crap fans. The fan speed can only be controlled with the included RC. You're better off getting good PWM or even 3-pin fans,  but you can certainly rewire them if you know how. 

The quality and design is actually really good, no complaints there and it was the only option to buy like 10 the same fans without spending an arm and a leg.

 

The only downside is the cable, if the cables were normal (seperate pin for power and rgb) then they would be amazing.

[Blasty Blosty]

1 minute ago, ramm said:

The quality and design is actually really good, no complaints there and it was the only option to buy like 10 the same fans without spending an arm and a leg.

 

The only downside is the cable, if the cables were normal (seperate pin for power and rgb) then they would be amazing.

Yeah, most cheap fans do hold their own in terms of looks and performance, its just 'nice-to-haves' that they lack, 99% of the time it is proper speed control

[RevGAM]

5 minutes ago, ramm said:

The quality and design is actually really good, no complaints there and it was the only option to buy like 10 the same fans without spending an arm and a leg.

Agree to disagree.  Antec and Arctic have decent offerings, Asiahorse Fish-Bone is reasonable but I'm not sure how good the quality is. Why do you need 10?

[RevGAM]

6 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Yeah, most cheap fans do hold their own in terms of looks and performance, its just 'nice-to-haves' that they lack, 99% of the time it is proper speed control

I've bought some pretty sketchy no-name and off brands, and some just suck. Aaawave's can is pretty strong but I doubt it'll last long. Same with Segotep, SAMA Asiahorse and some others. 

[ramm]

30 minutes ago, RevGAM said:

Agree to disagree.  Antec and Arctic have decent offerings, Asiahorse Fish-Bone is reasonable but I'm not sure how good the quality is. Why do you need 10?

The Lian Li 011 holds 10 fans

 

But yeah, the connector and speed control has been a huge oversight. I was worried about build quality, metal plastic but didnt expect for a simple 5 cent plug to be lacking